Re: Andy Looney changes his mind
- Ok...I'll be the first to admit that I'm no legal expert, but can
anyone explain to me how someone can think that a gamepiece like
colored plastic pyramids can be patentable? To me, this is like
saying that red polygon dice can be patentable.
I can understand if it's a unique process, like the "clik" base of
Mage Knight figures or even a unique rules process like Wizard of the
Coast CCG rules (although that one was actually up for debate too),
but this one I just don't get...
Or am I misunderstanding the situation...?
- It's my understanding that, and correct me if I'm wrong *shutter*, virtually
any "thing" can be patented, if it meets certain requirements. Such as being
a new item, not currently being marketed or previously patented (unless
renewing), or even a new way of making some things.
Some things are trickier than other to get patented. And some things really
can't be, I guess that's when copyright comes into play. Like with the
stamps we used on our First Editions. Those were purchased at stores, then
we learned that those images weren't to be used limitlessly without
additional charges. BUT we could go ahead and create custom artwork all our
own (in this case mine) and not have to pay anyone royalties. So, our 2nd
Edition Sun is still a Sun but not the Sun that was on 1st Edition.
Maybe this doesn't really fit with the conversation, and if not I apologize.
I don't know why but I was under the impression that the IceHouse Patent had
been allowed to lapse so this whole discussion came as a shock to me. I just
figured that soon anyone who wanted to buy IceHouse pieces would be able to
get them wholesale and use them for whatever they wished. However, this
essay leads me to believe that somewhere I was let astray - and makes me
wonder where I read that in the first place.
Hope everyone is doing well,
(little disclaimer - this e-mail is personal opinion and in no way
affiliated with the joint views of those at Mesomorph Games)
----- Original Message -----
From: "LazarusLong601" <lazaruslong601@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 9:03 AM
Subject: [piecepack] Re: Andy Looney changes his mind
> Ok...I'll be the first to admit that I'm no legal expert, but can
> anyone explain to me how someone can think that a gamepiece like
> colored plastic pyramids can be patentable? To me, this is like
> saying that red polygon dice can be patentable.
> I can understand if it's a unique process, like the "clik" base of
> Mage Knight figures or even a unique rules process like Wizard of the
> Coast CCG rules (although that one was actually up for debate too),
> but this one I just don't get...
> Or am I misunderstanding the situation...?
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- --- Ron Hale-Evans <rwhe@...> wrote:
> This afternoon Andy told me he now thinks that piecepackSo then he wrote the original essay without ever seeing the
> DON'T infringe on his patent. He said he didn't realise that
> piecepack pyramids are all the same colour, and he was going
> to revise
> his essay.
piecepack pyramids pdf? Outstanding.
I have to say (not that my opinion matters to anybody,
particularly anyone with a patent or three..) , I think that if
sombeody came along with a pdf that folded up into little
colored pyramids, Andy'd have a cause, if not a case. And maybe
a case, too; I'm no legal well of Mimir.
But a pyramid that amounts to a piecepack tile deformed in space
is still a piecepack tile. IMHO.
And lest anyone think I'm bashing, I love my Icehouse set. The
realtime shoot/barricade game, whatever its name is, is one
reason why fold-up paper anything just can't replace the quality
of the actual little plastic pieces.
> Revisiting his article, I can now see it reads, "Would suchhttp://www.wunderland.com/WTS/Andy/Games/PatentsAndLawsuits.html
> infringe on our patent? It's debatable." instead of "Do I
> think such
> pyramids would infringe on my patent? Yes.".
> I guess that's progress...I wonder how he'll feel when he actually looks at the pdf?
Until he has, he's just wasting everybody's time, and possibly
rattling a little sabre for good measure.
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