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  • Wayne and Charlene Anderson
    Hello, It is me again requesting advice for a young PT entrepreneur. His big question is how can he become a provider to various insurance companies? Where
    Message 1 of 8 , Feb 19, 2001
      Hello,
      It is me again requesting advice for a young PT entrepreneur. 
      His big question is how can he become a provider to various insurance companies?  Where does he get phone numbers and names of insurance companies?  He has looked into PTPN but he questions the value considering the big money initial investment.  And also does he need to become a provider of Medicare and have a Medicare # in order to become a provider with other insurances.
      If you have any answers from your years of experience then please respond and I will forward the info to him.  He has been most appreciative of the information he as received thus far.
      Thanks so much for your help.
      Sincerely,
      Charlene
       
       
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    • brian richman
      I would like to thank you so much for forwarding my questions to so many others with experience. With the kind help you are providing me, I can t lose. Am
      Message 2 of 8 , Feb 20, 2001
        <P>I would like to thank you so much for forwarding my
        questions to so many others with experience. With the
        kind help you are providing me, I can't lose. Am
        looking forward to�the responses and have been
        doing a lot of investigating myself. It seems
        that�a medicare # is a requirement to get on
        PTPN, and I am trying to find the specfic requirements
        a clinic needs to meet for a #. I am worried because
        the space I will be renting is in a fitness facility
        but is only big enough for about two
        tables(10X10sq.ft.)were I plan to do my hands on and
        modality work, then use the fitness facility for the
        ther ex. My question to those that might know... Do
        clinics of this size with one practioner normally get
        accepted into Medicare? I quess the age old question
        still applies... Does size matter? Thanks again for
        you interest and effort.</P>
        <P>Brian<BR></P>
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      • Kerry Fitz
        I am curious why you would be appling for a medicare number for your facility, and not just an individual number.  To my knowledge, you can apply for
        Message 3 of 8 , Feb 21, 2001
          <P> I am curious why you would be appling for a
          medicare number for your facility, and not just an
          individual number.  To my knowledge, you can
          apply for a part B number like a physican as long as
          you have an office.  I think... and I could be
          wrong (it has happened once or twice) getting a part B
          number is far easier than getting an A (even though
          when u get an A it bills B). The other difference also
          is that part B numbers are capped at $900. 
          However, I hear and correct me if anyone knows for
          sure, you have an easier time getting reimbursed under
          B</P>
          <P>As far as PTPN, it is very expensive, and I dont
          recommed it to a small clinic, we investigated it, and
          there are other insurance networks far cheaper. Their
          used to be a list of them in an online artice on
          Advance, as well as an artice (also advance but in the
          mag, bout 1999) about how helpful it was to
          therapists to be in these networks.  I live in a
          small rural area, and financially it didnt make sence,
          due to most of the insurances no-one carried. 
          The bulk of our business is Medicare, however whenever
          we do get private (jackpot) we do get reimbursed, only
          a few times did it happen that they wouldnt pay
          because we werent a provider.</P>
          <P>So what you do is call and verify insurance. 
          If they dont take you then ask for an application,
          process takes 3-6 months, but it does help to have the
          medicare number.</P>
          <P>Good luck, If I can find the copy of the provider
          networks, Ill fax it to you. Kerry<BR></P>
          <P>  <B><I>brian richman
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          With the<BR>kind help you are providing me, I can't
          lose. Am<BR>looking forward to the responses and
          have been<BR>doing a lot of investigating myself. It
          seems<BR>that a medicare # is a requirement to
          get on<BR>PTPN, and I am trying to find the specfic
          requirements<BR>a clinic needs to meet for a #. I am
          worried because<BR>the space I will be renting is in a
          fitness facility<BR>but is only big enough for about
          two<BR>tables(10X10sq.ft.)were I plan to do my hands
          on and<BR>modality work, then use the fitness facility
          for the<BR>ther ex. My question to those that might
          know... Do<BR>clinics of this size with one practioner
          normally get<BR>accepted into Medicare? I quess the
          age old question<BR>still applies... Does size matter?
          Thanks again for<BR>you interest and
          effort.</P><BR><BR>
          <P>Brian<BR></P><BR><BR>
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        • brian richman
            Kerry Fitz <kfitz2000@yahoo.com> wrote: Dear Kerry, Thank you so much for the time and information. To
          Message 4 of 8 , Feb 22, 2001
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            <P>  <B><I>Kerry Fitz
            <kfitz2000@...></I></B> wrote:</P>
            <P>Dear Kerry, Thank you so much for the time and
            information. To clarify, I do plan on applying fo a
            medicare B #, but from what I was told, you have to
            wait untill after you've opened and started seeing
            patients in order to apply. Is this correct? If so,
            how long does one have to wait? Is applying for a part
            B # different then getting an individual #? I agree,
            PTPN is very expensive, if you know of other networks,
            please fax them to me @ 954 741 3268.  Thanks
            again and am looking forward to recieving your reply.
            </P>
            <P>Good Luck,</P>
            <P>Brian<BR></P>
            <BLOCKQUOTE style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid;
            MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><TT><P> I
            am curious why you would be appling for a<BR>medicare
            number for your facility, and not just
            an<BR>individual number.&nbsp; To my knowledge,
            you can<BR>apply for a part B number like a physican
            as long as<BR>you have an office.&nbsp; I think...
            and I could be<BR>wrong (it has happened once or
            twice) getting a part B<BR>number is far easier than
            getting an A (even though<BR>when u get an A it bills
            B). The other difference also<BR>is that part B
            numbers are capped at $900.&nbsp;<BR>However, I
            hear and correct me if anyone knows for<BR>sure, you
            have an easier time getting reimbursed
            under<BR>B</P><BR><P>As far as PTPN, it is
            very expensive, and I dont<BR>recommed it to a small
            clinic, we investigated it, and<BR>there are other
            insurance networks far cheaper. Their<BR>used to be a
            list of them in an online artice on<BR>Advance, as
            well as an artice (also advance but in
            the<BR>mag,&nbsp;bout 1999)  about how
            helpful it was to<BR>therapists to be in these
            networks.&nbsp; I live in a<BR>small rural area,
            and financially it didnt make sence,<BR>due to most of
            the insurances no-one carried.&nbsp;<BR>The bulk
            of our business is Medicare, however whenever<BR>we do
            get private (jackpot) we do get reimbursed, only<BR>a
            few times did it happen that they wouldnt
            pay<BR>because we werent a
            provider.</P><BR><P>So what you do is call
            and verify insurance.&nbsp;<BR>If they dont take
            you then ask for an application,<BR>process takes 3-6
            months, but it does help to have the<BR>medicare
            number.</P><BR><P>Good luck, If I can find
            the copy of the provider<BR>networks, Ill fax it to
            you. Kerry<BR></P><BR><P>&nbsp;
            <B><I>brian
            richman<BR>&lt;gymnst37@...&gt;</I></B>
            wrote: <BR><BR><BLOCKQUOTE
            style="BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid;<BR>MARGIN-LEFT:
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            would like to thank you so much for
            forwarding<BR>my<BR>questions to so many others
            with experience.<BR>With the<BR>kind help you
            are providing me, I can't<BR>lose. Am<BR>looking
            forward to&nbsp;the responses and<BR>have
            been<BR>doing a lot of investigating myself.
            It<BR>seems<BR>that&nbsp;a medicare # is a
            requirement to<BR>get on<BR>PTPN, and I am
            trying to find the specfic<BR>requirements<BR>a
            clinic needs to meet for a #. I am<BR>worried
            because<BR>the space I will be renting is in
            a<BR>fitness facility<BR>but is only big enough
            for about<BR>two<BR>tables(10X10sq.ft.)were I
            plan to do my hands<BR>on and<BR>modality work,
            then use the fitness facility<BR>for the<BR>ther
            ex. My question to those that might<BR>know...
            Do<BR>clinics of this size with one
            practioner<BR>normally get<BR>accepted into
            Medicare? I quess the<BR>age old
            question<BR>still applies... Does size
            matter?<BR>Thanks again for<BR>you interest
            and<BR>effort.</P><BR><BR><BR><P>Brian<BR></P><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT
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          • Debbie Leiter
            I am located in Miami, Florida and set up a small clinic 5 months ago inside a local gym. I essentially operate as a business within a business. The best
            Message 5 of 8 , Feb 23, 2001
              I am located in Miami, Florida and set up a small clinic 5 months ago inside a
              local gym. I essentially operate as a business within a business. The best
              thing to do is to get an individual medicare number and keep it simple
              especially since you are a small practice. (My clinic has only one treatment
              table). The medicare packet is not complicated, but you do need to have a few
              things in place. One of the most important things you need is an occupational
              license. In order to get one, you must have a certificate of occupancy. In
              addition, it is important to know that medicare will not allow your business to
              be located out of your home. I have been exploring possibilites and following
              all of this stuff for about 6 months now. It is one of the reasons I started
              my clinic. Next, there is no cap at the moment, at least in Florida. Medicare
              does have a different fee schedule for differnet states. I have recently
              compared Florida's fees with a friend of mine who is starting a business in
              North Carolina. I will receive more for the same services than he will, but
              the differences are not severe. It is also my understanding that the cap was
              repealed last year. I believe it will be up for discussion and a vote sometime
              next year. I am not certain, but I would contact the APTA for an amswer. The
              had a lot to do with the lobby to get the cap repealed. In Florida, it was
              $1500, not $900, as others have written. I hope you find this information
              helpful. Good luck. Debbie Leiter, PT


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            • Kerry Fitz
              To clarify, if you have an Medicare A number, the cap was $1500, which has been lifted for the next year or 2 until they can figure out what to do with it. If
              Message 6 of 8 , Feb 24, 2001

                To clarify, if you have an Medicare A number, the cap was $1500, which has been lifted for the next year or 2 until they can figure out what to do with it.  If you have a Med B number, you do have a cap of $900, but have an easier time with reimbursement.  They may have changed this recently, but I have not heard anything about it, and the therapists that I do know with a B numbers claim it still exists. I could be wrong, I have an A number, Ill do some more investigating...

                Out of curiosity, did you need to get your building surveyed when appling 4 and individual number, and how long did it take for you to get it??? Thanks Kerry

                  Debbie Leiter <debtraveller@...> wrote:

                I am located in Miami, Florida and set up a small clinic 5 months ago inside a
                local gym.  I essentially operate as a business within a business.  The best
                thing to do is to get an individual medicare number and keep it simple
                especially since you are a small practice.  (My clinic has only one treatment
                table).  The medicare packet is not complicated, but you do need to have a few
                things in place.  One of the most important things you need is an occupational
                license.  In order to get one, you must have a certificate of occupancy.  In
                addition, it is important to know that medicare will not allow your business to
                be located out of your home.  I have been exploring possibilites and following
                all of this stuff for about 6 months now.  It is one of the reasons I started
                my clinic.  Next, there is no cap at the moment, at least in Florida.  Medicare
                does have a different fee schedule for differnet states.  I have recently
                compared Florida's fees with a friend of mine who is starting a business in
                North Carolina.  I will receive more for the same services than he will, but
                the differences are not severe.  It is also my understanding that the cap was
                repealed last year.  I believe it will be up for discussion and a vote sometime
                next year.  I am not certain, but I would contact the APTA for an amswer.  The
                had a lot to do with the lobby to get the cap repealed.  In Florida, it was
                $1500, not $900, as others have written.  I hope you find this information
                helpful.  Good luck.  Debbie Leiter, PT


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              • brian richman
                Debbie Leiter wrote: Debbie, Wow, it amazes me how helpful you and this web site is becoming. Thanks for the reply. It sounds like you
                Message 7 of 8 , Feb 25, 2001


                    Debbie Leiter <debtraveller@...> wrote:

                  Debbie,

                  Wow, it amazes me how helpful you and this web site is becoming. Thanks for the reply. It sounds like you are doing exactly what I'm trying to do. How big is your facility? I will just have a small room, possibly big enough for two treatment tables seperated by a curtain.(10X10 sq.ft)But theres a fitness trainer that has 650 sq.ft.in the gym with all of his own exercise equipment that I'll be utilizing for the ther ex. I heard that Medicare does site inspections, do you have any info on the requirements that they look for? What about the other things Medicare requires,Policies&procedures manual, etc...? How are doing with getting on insurance plans? Are you accepting HMO's and PPO's? Which ones? Did you have a lot of MD referrals or how are you getting most of your patients? So, after five months, how would you do things differently when you were at the same place I am now? Has it all been worth it so far? I know it's a lot of questions so take you time. Thanks again for all your help and look forward to your reply. Good Luck

                  Brian

                   

                  I am located in Miami, Florida and set up a small clinic 5 months ago inside a
                  local gym.  I essentially operate as a business within a business.  The best
                  thing to do is to get an individual medicare number and keep it simple
                  especially since you are a small practice.  (My clinic has only one treatment
                  table).  The medicare packet is not complicated, but you do need to have a few
                  things in place.  One of the most important things you need is an occupational
                  license.  In order to get one, you must have a certificate of occupancy.  In
                  addition, it is important to know that medicare will not allow your business to
                  be located out of your home.  I have been exploring possibilites and following
                  all of this stuff for about 6 months now.  It is one of the reasons I started
                  my clinic.  Next, there is no cap at the moment, at least in Florida.  Medicare
                  does have a different fee schedule for differnet states.  I have recently
                  compared Florida's fees with a friend of mine who is starting a business in
                  North Carolina.  I will receive more for the same services than he will, but
                  the differences are not severe.  It is also my understanding that the cap was
                  repealed last year.  I believe it will be up for discussion and a vote sometime
                  next year.  I am not certain, but I would contact the APTA for an amswer.  The
                  had a lot to do with the lobby to get the cap repealed.  In Florida, it was
                  $1500, not $900, as others have written.  I hope you find this information
                  helpful.  Good luck.  Debbie Leiter, PT


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                • brian richman
                  brian richman wrote: Debbie Leiter wrote: Debbie, Wow, it amazes me how helpful you and this web site is
                  Message 8 of 8 , Mar 4, 2001


                      brian richman <gymnst37@...> wrote:




                      Debbie Leiter <debtraveller@...> wrote:


                    Debbie,


                    Wow, it amazes me how helpful you and this web site is becoming. Thanks for the reply. It sounds like you are doing exactly what I'm trying to do. How big is your facility? I will just have a small room, possibly big enough for two treatment tables seperated by a curtain.(10X10 sq.ft)But theres a fitness trainer that has 650 sq.ft.in the gym with all of his own exercise equipment that I'll be utilizing for the ther ex. I heard that Medicare does site inspections, do you have any info on the requirements that they look for? What about the other things Medicare requires,Policies&procedures manual, etc...? How are doing with getting on insurance plans? Are you accepting HMO's and PPO's? Which ones? Did you have a lot of MD referrals or how are you getting most of your patients? So, after five months, how would you do things differently when you were at the same place I am now? Has it all been worth it so far? I know it's a lot of questions so take you time. Thanks again for all your help and look forward to your reply. Good Luck


                    Brian


                     


                    I am located in Miami, Florida and set up a small clinic 5 months ago inside a
                    local gym.  I essentially operate as a business within a business.  The best
                    thing to do is to get an individual medicare number and keep it simple
                    especially since you are a small practice.  (My clinic has only one treatment
                    table).  The medicare packet is not complicated, but you do need to have a few
                    things in place.  One of the most important things you need is an occupational
                    license.  In order to get one, you must have a certificate of occupancy.  In
                    addition, it is important to know that medicare will not allow your business to
                    be located out of your home.  I have been exploring possibilites and following
                    all of this stuff for about 6 months now.  It is one of the reasons I started
                    my clinic.  Next, there is no cap at the moment, at least in Florida.  Medicare
                    does have a different fee schedule for differnet states.  I have recently
                    compared Florida's fees with a friend of mine who is starting a business in
                    North Carolina.  I will receive more for the same services than he will, but
                    the differences are not severe.  It is also my understanding that the cap was
                    repealed last year.  I believe it will be up for discussion and a vote sometime
                    next year.  I am not certain, but I would contact the APTA for an amswer.  The
                    had a lot to do with the lobby to get the cap repealed.  In Florida, it was
                    $1500, not $900, as others have written.  I hope you find this information
                    helpful.  Good luck.  Debbie Leiter, PT


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