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  • William Wallace
    An kai kathistermena, tha sou dwsw tin dikia mou ekdoxi se php kwdika. I hope it helps! $browser=$_SERVER[ HTTP_USER_AGENT ]; $array=split($browser, / );
    Message 1 of 19 , Sep 21, 2004
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      An kai kathistermena, tha sou dwsw tin dikia mou ekdoxi se php kwdika. I
      hope it helps!

      $browser=$_SERVER["HTTP_USER_AGENT"];
      $array=split($browser, "/");
      $test=split($array[3], " ");
      switch($test[1])
      {
      case 'Firefox':
      echo("You are Using Mozilla Firefox");
      break;
      case 'Mozilla':
      echo("You are using Mozilla");
      break;
      ktl....
      default:
      echo("Your browser could not be detected");
      break;
      }//end of switch

      On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Alaios wrote:

      > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 09:59:31 -0700 (PDT)
      > From: Alaios <alaios@...>
      > Reply-To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
      > To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: [php_greek] browser detection?
      >
      >
      >
      > Kalispera..... Prospatho na kataskeyaso ena script pou na anixneyei ton browser tou xristi ..... Eimai metaksy ..... server-side kai client side scripting.....
      >
      > Ayto pou me endiaferei einai na min mporei o xristis na ksegela ton kodika mou kai na leei oti einai kati allo....
      >
      >
      >
      > Me endiaferei i periptosi tis php... Pos na ksekiniso kai pou na koitakso?
      >
      > Eyxarisot
      >
      >
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    • Alaios
      Eyxaristo gia tis apantiseis sas... Exo mazepsei antistoixa snifferakia se php kai javascript... ola omos mperdeyoyn .Yparei perissoteri pliroforia apo osi
      Message 2 of 19 , Sep 21, 2004
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        Eyxaristo gia tis apantiseis sas...
        Exo mazepsei antistoixa snifferakia se php kai
        javascript... ola omos "mperdeyoyn".Yparei perissoteri
        pliroforia apo osi tha xreiazosouna.. To eidaniko tha
        itan ean ypirxe ena script to opoio sou elege oti
        einai tade browser tade ekdosis..

        Gia paradeigma ena diko mou scriptaki rixnei ola
        aytase mia metabliti

        Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US;
        rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows
        NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113Mozilla/5.0
        (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6)
        Gecko/20040113Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0;
        en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 O Browser einai ns6


        Ti na ekmetalleytho ego apo ayta? Kai pos mporo na
        ksero oti enas client den tha prospathisei na me
        mperdepsei????
        Den ksero...paratiro pantos para polles lyseis gia to
        problima kai o kosmos genikotera ekei ekso
        psaxnetai...
        Sas eyxaristo poly
        Kali sas imera


        --- William Wallace <vplia@...> wrote:

        > An kai kathistermena, tha sou dwsw tin dikia mou
        > ekdoxi se php kwdika. I
        > hope it helps!
        >
        > $browser=$_SERVER["HTTP_USER_AGENT"];
        > $array=split($browser, "/");
        > $test=split($array[3], " ");
        > switch($test[1])
        > {
        > case 'Firefox':
        > echo("You are Using Mozilla Firefox");
        > break;
        > case 'Mozilla':
        > echo("You are using Mozilla");
        > break;
        > ktl....
        > default:
        > echo("Your browser could not be detected");
        > break;
        > }//end of switch
        >
        > On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Alaios wrote:
        >
        > > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 09:59:31 -0700 (PDT)
        > > From: Alaios <alaios@...>
        > > Reply-To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
        > > To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
        > > Subject: [php_greek] browser detection?
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > Kalispera..... Prospatho na kataskeyaso ena script
        > pou na anixneyei ton browser tou xristi ..... Eimai
        > metaksy ..... server-side kai client side
        > scripting.....
        > >
        > > Ayto pou me endiaferei einai na min mporei o
        > xristis na ksegela ton kodika mou kai na leei oti
        > einai kati allo....
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > Me endiaferei i periptosi tis php... Pos na
        > ksekiniso kai pou na koitakso?
        > >
        > > Eyxarisot
        > >
        > >
        > > ---------------------------------
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        > > vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today!
        >




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      • William Wallace
        To oti enas client iparxei pithanotita na se mperdepsei den nomizw oti to to ksereis. O kathenas mporei na ftiaksei ena web browser (diskolo alla oxi apithano)
        Message 3 of 19 , Sep 22, 2004
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          To oti enas client iparxei pithanotita na se mperdepsei den nomizw oti to
          to ksereis. O kathenas mporei na ftiaksei ena web browser (diskolo alla
          oxi apithano) sto poio na to rithmizei etsi wste na fenetai gia p.x. ie
          (ksou apo edw triskatarate) :)

          iparxei mia entoli tis php i opoia legete preg_match kai i opoia psaxnei
          se ena sting gia ena allo.

          H vasiki idea einai preg_match(/$browser/, $_SERVER['HTTP_USER_AGENT'])
          alla nomizw oti oi grammes kwdika pou sou edw sto proigoumeno mail mou
          (afto me to switch) sto linoun to provlima.
          To dokimases?
          Ti apotelesmata sou vgazei?
          Ti den s'aresoun apo afta?

          Perissoteres plirofories sto http://www.php.net

          > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
          > From: Alaios <alaios@...>
          > Reply-To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
          > To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
          > Subject: Re: [php_greek] browser detection?
          >
          > Eyxaristo gia tis apantiseis sas...
          > Exo mazepsei antistoixa snifferakia se php kai
          > javascript... ola omos "mperdeyoyn".Yparei perissoteri
          > pliroforia apo osi tha xreiazosouna.. To eidaniko tha
          > itan ean ypirxe ena script to opoio sou elege oti
          > einai tade browser tade ekdosis..
          >
          > Gia paradeigma ena diko mou scriptaki rixnei ola
          > aytase mia metabliti
          >
          > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US;
          > rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows
          > NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113Mozilla/5.0
          > (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6)
          > Gecko/20040113Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0;
          > en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 O Browser einai ns6
          >
          >
          > Ti na ekmetalleytho ego apo ayta? Kai pos mporo na
          > ksero oti enas client den tha prospathisei na me
          > mperdepsei????
          > Den ksero...paratiro pantos para polles lyseis gia to
          > problima kai o kosmos genikotera ekei ekso
          > psaxnetai...
          > Sas eyxaristo poly
          > Kali sas imera
          >
          >
          > --- William Wallace <vplia@...> wrote:
          >
          > > An kai kathistermena, tha sou dwsw tin dikia mou
          > > ekdoxi se php kwdika. I
          > > hope it helps!
          > >
          > > $browser=$_SERVER["HTTP_USER_AGENT"];
          > > $array=split($browser, "/");
          > > $test=split($array[3], " ");
          > > switch($test[1])
          > > {
          > > case 'Firefox':
          > > echo("You are Using Mozilla Firefox");
          > > break;
          > > case 'Mozilla':
          > > echo("You are using Mozilla");
          > > break;
          > > ktl....
          > > default:
          > > echo("Your browser could not be detected");
          > > break;
          > > }//end of switch
          > >
          > > On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Alaios wrote:
          > >
          > > > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 09:59:31 -0700 (PDT)
          > > > From: Alaios <alaios@...>
          > > > Reply-To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
          > > > To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
          > > > Subject: [php_greek] browser detection?
          > > >
          > > >
          > > >
          > > > Kalispera..... Prospatho na kataskeyaso ena script
          > > pou na anixneyei ton browser tou xristi ..... Eimai
          > > metaksy ..... server-side kai client side
          > > scripting.....
          > > >
          > > > Ayto pou me endiaferei einai na min mporei o
          > > xristis na ksegela ton kodika mou kai na leei oti
          > > einai kati allo....
          > > >
          > > >
          > > >
          > > > Me endiaferei i periptosi tis php... Pos na
          > > ksekiniso kai pou na koitakso?
          > > >
          > > > Eyxarisot
          > > >
          > > >
          > > > ---------------------------------
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          > > > vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today!
          > >
          >
          >
          >
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        • William Wallace
          kai kati allo pou ksexasa sto proigoumeno mail Afto pou les (oti sou emfanizei Mozilla enw einai netscape) den einai pragmatiko provlima giati a) O mozilla
          Message 4 of 19 , Sep 22, 2004
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            kai kati allo pou ksexasa sto proigoumeno mail
            Afto pou les (oti sou emfanizei Mozilla enw einai netscape) den einai
            pragmatiko provlima giati
            a) O mozilla xrisimipoiei tin mixani tis Netscape
            b) H Netscape xrisimopoiei tin mixani tou moxilla

            Den thimamai poio apo ta dio simvenei giati kapoia (mozilla/netscape)
            einai thigatriki i kati tetoio (nomika zitimata metaksi twn eteriwn) tis
            allis (netscape/mozilla)

            Afta....

            On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Alaios wrote:

            > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
            > From: Alaios <alaios@...>
            > Reply-To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
            > To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: Re: [php_greek] browser detection?
            >
            > Eyxaristo gia tis apantiseis sas...
            > Exo mazepsei antistoixa snifferakia se php kai
            > javascript... ola omos "mperdeyoyn".Yparei perissoteri
            > pliroforia apo osi tha xreiazosouna.. To eidaniko tha
            > itan ean ypirxe ena script to opoio sou elege oti
            > einai tade browser tade ekdosis..
            >
            > Gia paradeigma ena diko mou scriptaki rixnei ola
            > aytase mia metabliti
            >
            > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US;
            > rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows
            > NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113Mozilla/5.0
            > (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6)
            > Gecko/20040113Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0;
            > en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 O Browser einai ns6
            >
            >
            > Ti na ekmetalleytho ego apo ayta? Kai pos mporo na
            > ksero oti enas client den tha prospathisei na me
            > mperdepsei????
            > Den ksero...paratiro pantos para polles lyseis gia to
            > problima kai o kosmos genikotera ekei ekso
            > psaxnetai...
            > Sas eyxaristo poly
            > Kali sas imera
            >
            >
            > --- William Wallace <vplia@...> wrote:
            >
            > > An kai kathistermena, tha sou dwsw tin dikia mou
            > > ekdoxi se php kwdika. I
            > > hope it helps!
            > >
            > > $browser=$_SERVER["HTTP_USER_AGENT"];
            > > $array=split($browser, "/");
            > > $test=split($array[3], " ");
            > > switch($test[1])
            > > {
            > > case 'Firefox':
            > > echo("You are Using Mozilla Firefox");
            > > break;
            > > case 'Mozilla':
            > > echo("You are using Mozilla");
            > > break;
            > > ktl....
            > > default:
            > > echo("Your browser could not be detected");
            > > break;
            > > }//end of switch
            > >
            > > On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Alaios wrote:
            > >
            > > > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 09:59:31 -0700 (PDT)
            > > > From: Alaios <alaios@...>
            > > > Reply-To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
            > > > To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
            > > > Subject: [php_greek] browser detection?
            > > >
            > > >
            > > >
            > > > Kalispera..... Prospatho na kataskeyaso ena script
            > > pou na anixneyei ton browser tou xristi ..... Eimai
            > > metaksy ..... server-side kai client side
            > > scripting.....
            > > >
            > > > Ayto pou me endiaferei einai na min mporei o
            > > xristis na ksegela ton kodika mou kai na leei oti
            > > einai kati allo....
            > > >
            > > >
            > > >
            > > > Me endiaferei i periptosi tis php... Pos na
            > > ksekiniso kai pou na koitakso?
            > > >
            > > > Eyxarisot
            > > >
            > > >
            > > > ---------------------------------
            > > > Do you Yahoo!?
            > > > vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today!
            > >
            >
            >
            >
            >
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          • Dimitrios Botsis
            Loipon, i pio apli lysi, xwris PHP, xwris tipota, einai na baleis ena Listbox stin arxiki selida, kai ase ton xristi na epileksei ti typoe browser exei ! Kai
            Message 5 of 19 , Sep 22, 2004
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              Loipon, i pio apli lysi, xwris PHP, xwris tipota, einai na baleis
              ena Listbox stin arxiki selida, kai ase ton xristi na epileksei
              ti typoe browser exei !
              Kai an kanei kati strabo, as prosexe :)


              > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
              > From: Alaios <alaios@...>
              > Reply-To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
              > To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
              > Subject: Re: [php_greek] browser detection?
              >
              > Eyxaristo gia tis apantiseis sas...
              > Exo mazepsei antistoixa snifferakia se php kai
              > javascript... ola omos "mperdeyoyn".Yparei perissoteri
              > pliroforia apo osi tha xreiazosouna.. To eidaniko tha
              > itan ean ypirxe ena script to opoio sou elege oti
              > einai tade browser tade ekdosis..
              >
              > Gia paradeigma ena diko mou scriptaki rixnei ola
              > aytase mia metabliti
              >
              > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US;
              > rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows
              > NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113Mozilla/5.0
              > (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6)
              > Gecko/20040113Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0;
              > en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 O Browser einai ns6
              >
              >
              > Ti na ekmetalleytho ego apo ayta? Kai pos mporo na
              > ksero oti enas client den tha prospathisei na me
              > mperdepsei????
              > Den ksero...paratiro pantos para polles lyseis gia to
              > problima kai o kosmos genikotera ekei ekso
              > psaxnetai...
              > Sas eyxaristo poly
              > Kali sas imera
              >
              >
              > --- William Wallace <vplia@...> wrote:
              >
              > > An kai kathistermena, tha sou dwsw tin dikia mou
              > > ekdoxi se php kwdika. I
              > > hope it helps!
              > >
              > > $browser=$_SERVER["HTTP_USER_AGENT"];
              > > $array=split($browser, "/");
              > > $test=split($array[3], " ");
              > > switch($test[1])
              > > {
              > > case 'Firefox':
              > > echo("You are Using Mozilla Firefox");
              > > break;
              > > case 'Mozilla':
              > > echo("You are using Mozilla");
              > > break;
              > > ktl....
              > > default:
              > > echo("Your browser could not be detected");
              > > break;
              > > }//end of switch
              > >
              > > On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Alaios wrote:
              > >
              > > > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 09:59:31 -0700 (PDT)
              > > > From: Alaios <alaios@...>
              > > > Reply-To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
              > > > To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
              > > > Subject: [php_greek] browser detection?
              > > >
              > > >
              > > >
              > > > Kalispera..... Prospatho na kataskeyaso ena script
              > > pou na anixneyei ton browser tou xristi ..... Eimai
              > > metaksy ..... server-side kai client side
              > > scripting.....
              > > >
              > > > Ayto pou me endiaferei einai na min mporei o
              > > xristis na ksegela ton kodika mou kai na leei oti
              > > einai kati allo....
              > > >
              > > >
              > > >
              > > > Me endiaferei i periptosi tis php... Pos na
              > > ksekiniso kai pou na koitakso?
              > > >
              > > > Eyxarisot
              > > >
              > > >
              > > > ---------------------------------
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              > > > vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today!
              > >
              >
              >
              >
              >
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            • Nick Demou (enLogic)
              ... Isos eimai poli Off Topic alla mipos kalitera na mporei o xristis na se ksegela - thelo na po an o xristis mpei ston kopo na se ksegelasei simenei oti
              Message 6 of 19 , Sep 23, 2004
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                > Ayto pou me endiaferei einai na min mporei o xristis na ksegela ton
                > kodika mou kai na leei oti einai kati allo....
                >
                Isos eimai poli Off Topic alla mipos kalitera na mporei o xristis na se
                ksegela - thelo na po an o xristis mpei ston kopo na se ksegelasei
                simenei oti xerei ti kanei (toylaxiston xerei ti thelei na kanei) opote
                aston ton anthropo.
                Prosopika moy thn spaei tromera poy den mporo na syndetho me firefox
                sthn alpha bank giati den exv ie 5, netscape 7. Oti exo kanei gia na
                prosperaso ton elegxo exei apotyxei kai ma thn panagia den katalabaino
                giati exoyn kanei toso aystiro elegxo
              • Dimitrios Botsis
                Nick, exoun toso aystiro elegxo giati oi typoi exoun dokimasei tin web efarmogi toys, mono me SSL tou Internet Explorer kai den mpikan ston kopo na kanoun
                Message 7 of 19 , Sep 24, 2004
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                  Nick, exoun toso aystiro elegxo giati oi typoi exoun dokimasei tin
                  web efarmogi toys, mono me SSL tou Internet Explorer kai den
                  mpikan ston kopo na kanoun dokimes kai me allous browsers.
                  Oxi bebaia pws mporei na exoun diaforetiko SSL, alla mallon
                  8eloun na einai sigouroi.
                  Episis, tou fobizei kai to open source. 8eloun na apokleioun
                  browsers poy einai open source ka8ws etsi nomizoun oti i
                  asfaleia einai elegxomeni kai periorismeni.
                  Episis, pi8anon na apaitoun IE exontas yp'opsin toys oti
                  argotera mporei na xrisimopoiisoun-egkatastisoun ActiveX
                  controls symbata mono me IE.
                  Telos, pistevw oti ta pairnoun xontra apo tin MS me skopo na
                  anagkazoun toys pelates toys (emas) na xrisimopoioume mono
                  IE gia toso krisimes efarmoges, 8elontas na perasoun tin idea
                  toy kyrile asfalous kai pleon episimou browser.

                  Pantws stin winbank, oi Oukranoi hackers tous ta ekanan mantara
                  prox8es kai apedeix8ei gia alli mia fora, oti ta polla brabeia kai
                  oi polles fanfares poy anaferei i winbank sto site, den simainoun
                  pote oti to site einai asfales.

                  Dimitris Botsis
                  http://www.dbotsis.com

                  ----- Original Message -----
                  From: "Nick Demou (enLogic)" <ndemou@...>
                  To: <php_greek@yahoogroups.com>
                  Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 9:34 AM
                  Subject: Re: [php_greek] browser detection? (maybe off topic)




                  > Ayto pou me endiaferei einai na min mporei o xristis na ksegela ton
                  > kodika mou kai na leei oti einai kati allo....
                  >
                  Isos eimai poli Off Topic alla mipos kalitera na mporei o xristis na se
                  ksegela - thelo na po an o xristis mpei ston kopo na se ksegelasei
                  simenei oti xerei ti kanei (toylaxiston xerei ti thelei na kanei) opote
                  aston ton anthropo.
                  Prosopika moy thn spaei tromera poy den mporo na syndetho me firefox
                  sthn alpha bank giati den exv ie 5, netscape 7. Oti exo kanei gia na
                  prosperaso ton elegxo exei apotyxei kai ma thn panagia den katalabaino
                  giati exoyn kanei toso aystiro elegxo



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                • Nick Demou (enLogic)
                  ... kai omos epitrepoyn Netscape 4.74, 4.75, 4.76, 4.77, 4.78. alla oxi Netscape 6.0 h 7.0 opos anagnorizoun to firefox! ... exo thn afelia na pistevo oti h
                  Message 8 of 19 , Sep 24, 2004
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                    Dimitrios Botsis wrote:

                    >Nick, exoun toso aystiro elegxo giati oi typoi exoun dokimasei tin
                    >web efarmogi toys, mono me SSL tou Internet Explorer kai den
                    >mpikan ston kopo na kanoun dokimes kai me allous browsers.
                    >
                    >
                    kai omos epitrepoyn Netscape 4.74, 4.75, 4.76, 4.77, 4.78. alla oxi
                    Netscape 6.0 h 7.0 opos anagnorizoun to firefox!

                    >Telos, pistevw oti ta pairnoun xontra apo tin MS me skopo na
                    >anagkazoun toys pelates toys (emas) na xrisimopoioume mono
                    >IE gia toso krisimes efarmoges, 8elontas na perasoun tin idea
                    >toy kyrile asfalous kai pleon episimou browser.
                    >
                    >
                    exo thn afelia na pistevo oti h MS den xriazete kan na asxolithi me
                    kathe efarmogi kathe trapezas kathe mikris xoras san tin ellada. Nomizo
                    omos oti h MS exei gia tin ora ton "Mindshare" arketon programatiston
                    kai project managers stin ellada oi opoioi akoma akoune MS kai sikonoyn
                    ta matia ston oyrano me evlavia gia ta yperoxa ergalia programatismou
                    kai tis dynates platformes kai oti allo nomizoyn oti toys exei xarisei h
                    YPERDINAMI (the FORCE).
                  • nop nop
                    /************************************************************************/ /* 7. function get_browser_version */
                    Message 9 of 19 , Sep 24, 2004
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                      /************************************************************************/
                      /* 7. function get_browser_version
                      */
                      /************************************************************************/

                      function get_browser_version()
                      {
                      if (ereg( 'MSIE
                      ([0-9].[0-9]{1,2})',$_SERVER["HTTP_USER_AGENT"],$browser_version))
                      return($browser_version[1]);
                      elseif (ereg( 'Opera
                      ([0-9].[0-9]{1,2})',$_SERVER["HTTP_USER_AGENT"],$browser_version))
                      return($browser_version[1]);
                      elseif (ereg(
                      'Netscape6/([0-9].[0-9]{1,2})',$_SERVER["HTTP_USER_AGENT"],$browser_version))
                      return($browser_version[1]);
                      elseif (ereg(
                      'Konqueror.([0-9].[0-9]{1,2})',$_SERVER["HTTP_USER_AGENT"],$browser_version))
                      return($browser_version[1]);
                      elseif (ereg(
                      'Mozilla/([0-9].[0-9]{1,2})',$_SERVER["HTTP_USER_AGENT"],$browser_version))
                      return($browser_version[1]);
                      else
                      return(0);
                      }



                      --- William Wallace <vplia@...> έγραψε:
                      > To oti enas client iparxei pithanotita na se
                      > mperdepsei den nomizw oti to
                      > to ksereis. O kathenas mporei na ftiaksei ena web
                      > browser (diskolo alla
                      > oxi apithano) sto poio na to rithmizei etsi wste na
                      > fenetai gia p.x. ie
                      > (ksou apo edw triskatarate) :)
                      >
                      > iparxei mia entoli tis php i opoia legete preg_match
                      > kai i opoia psaxnei
                      > se ena sting gia ena allo.
                      >
                      > H vasiki idea einai preg_match(/$browser/,
                      > $_SERVER['HTTP_USER_AGENT'])
                      > alla nomizw oti oi grammes kwdika pou sou edw sto
                      > proigoumeno mail mou
                      > (afto me to switch) sto linoun to provlima.
                      > To dokimases?
                      > Ti apotelesmata sou vgazei?
                      > Ti den s'aresoun apo afta?
                      >
                      > Perissoteres plirofories sto http://www.php.net
                      >
                      > > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
                      > > From: Alaios <alaios@...>
                      > > Reply-To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
                      > > To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
                      > > Subject: Re: [php_greek] browser detection?
                      > >
                      > > Eyxaristo gia tis apantiseis sas...
                      > > Exo mazepsei antistoixa snifferakia se php kai
                      > > javascript... ola omos "mperdeyoyn".Yparei
                      > perissoteri
                      > > pliroforia apo osi tha xreiazosouna.. To eidaniko
                      > tha
                      > > itan ean ypirxe ena script to opoio sou elege oti
                      > > einai tade browser tade ekdosis..
                      > >
                      > > Gia paradeigma ena diko mou scriptaki rixnei ola
                      > > aytase mia metabliti
                      > >
                      > > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US;
                      > > rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U;
                      > Windows
                      > > NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113Mozilla/5.0
                      > > (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6)
                      > > Gecko/20040113Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT
                      > 5.0;
                      > > en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 O Browser einai ns6
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > Ti na ekmetalleytho ego apo ayta? Kai pos mporo na
                      > > ksero oti enas client den tha prospathisei na me
                      > > mperdepsei????
                      > > Den ksero...paratiro pantos para polles lyseis gia
                      > to
                      > > problima kai o kosmos genikotera ekei ekso
                      > > psaxnetai...
                      > > Sas eyxaristo poly
                      > > Kali sas imera
                      > >
                      > >
                      > > --- William Wallace <vplia@...> wrote:
                      > >
                      > > > An kai kathistermena, tha sou dwsw tin dikia mou
                      > > > ekdoxi se php kwdika. I
                      > > > hope it helps!
                      > > >
                      > > > $browser=$_SERVER["HTTP_USER_AGENT"];
                      > > > $array=split($browser, "/");
                      > > > $test=split($array[3], " ");
                      > > > switch($test[1])
                      > > > {
                      > > > case 'Firefox':
                      > > > echo("You are Using Mozilla Firefox");
                      > > > break;
                      > > > case 'Mozilla':
                      > > > echo("You are using Mozilla");
                      > > > break;
                      > > > ktl....
                      > > > default:
                      > > > echo("Your browser could not be detected");
                      > > > break;
                      > > > }//end of switch
                      > > >
                      > > > On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Alaios wrote:
                      > > >
                      > > > > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 09:59:31 -0700 (PDT)
                      > > > > From: Alaios <alaios@...>
                      > > > > Reply-To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
                      > > > > To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
                      > > > > Subject: [php_greek] browser detection?
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > > Kalispera..... Prospatho na kataskeyaso ena
                      > script
                      > > > pou na anixneyei ton browser tou xristi .....
                      > Eimai
                      > > > metaksy ..... server-side kai client side
                      > > > scripting.....
                      > > > >
                      > > > > Ayto pou me endiaferei einai na min mporei o
                      > > > xristis na ksegela ton kodika mou kai na leei
                      > oti
                      > > > einai kati allo....
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
                      > > > > Me endiaferei i periptosi tis php... Pos na
                      > > > ksekiniso kai pou na koitakso?
                      > > > >
                      > > > > Eyxarisot
                      > > > >
                      > > > >
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                    • A.Papadakhs-Pesaresi
                      ... O kurioteros logos pou o IE exei ta perissotera kena asfaleias einai giati einai o pio diadedomenos browser sto kosmo. Antistoixws, kai ta windows einai to
                      Message 10 of 19 , Sep 24, 2004
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                        On Sun, 24 Oct 2004, Symeon Charalabides wrote:

                        >> Episis, tou fobizei kai to open source. 8eloun na apokleioun
                        >> browsers poy einai open source ka8ws etsi nomizoun oti i
                        >> asfaleia einai elegxomeni kai periorismeni.
                        >
                        > ... to opoio fysika einai klassiki apopsi Dilbert. I mavri alitheia einai pos o
                        > IE ehei apodedeigmena makran ta perissotera provlimata asfaleias, kai den arkei
                        > apla na eisai adais gia na mi to anagnorizeis - prepei na eheis htypisei
                        > lovotomi. I to akadimaiko tis antistoiho (MBA ;-)

                        O kurioteros logos pou o IE exei ta perissotera kena asfaleias einai giati
                        einai o pio diadedomenos browser sto kosmo. Antistoixws, kai ta windows
                        einai to pio diadedomeno(kai me ton oro auto ennow oti ta perissotera pc
                        ston kosmo trexoun auto to O.S.) leitourgiko susthma ston kosmo(mhn ginei
                        diakrish metaksu servers kai desktops se auto to shmeio giati den tha
                        exei nohma). Auto exei ws apotelesma oloi oi hackers, crackers, *ckers, tou kosmou na exoun
                        strepsei thn prosoxh tous pros auton kai na prospathoune na broune oso
                        perissotera exploits boroune. Se auto to pragma synhgorei kai to oti oi
                        perissoteroi desktop upologistes(ennowntas oti elegxonai apo, sxetika,
                        adaeis xrhstes) trexoun IE. An uphrxe kai o Firefox, h' o Mozilla, h'
                        opoiosdhpote allos(an kai merikoi einai kai pio palioi apo ton IE) apo
                        tote pou yphrxe o IE kai epishs erxontan MAZI me to pio diadedomeno O.S.
                        ston kosmo, tote, gnwmh mou einai, oti tha eixan brei kai sautous para
                        polla kena asfaleias. Epishs o logos pou apetyxe o Netscape htan kuriws giati htan
                        enas, ousiastika, "ekswterikos" browser pou eprepe na pas na katebaseis
                        kai na egatastiseis mono sou kai eidika se epoxes h DSL den htan kai toso
                        polu diademenh kai o idios o installer tou netscape htan peri ta 15-30
                        megabyte. Epishs, den erxotan mazi me ta Windows opws ekane o IE(kai
                        auton ton logo eixe dhlwsei o CEO ths netscape gia na pei ston kosmo oti
                        apetyxe o browser tou an thimamai kala), o opoios telika petyxe giauto
                        akribws ton logo.
                        Opoiesdhpote alles apopseis einai, profanestata, euprosdektes...:)

                        >
                        >> Episis, pi8anon na apaitoun IE exontas yp'opsin toys oti
                        >> argotera mporei na xrisimopoiisoun-egkatastisoun ActiveX
                        >> controls symbata mono me IE.
                        >
                        > Ayto theoro ki ego pithanotero. Einai poly trendy gia mia epiheirisi na ehei
                        > apaitiseis apo tous pelates tis, allios na trone porta. I mouri metraei deka
                        > fores perissotero apo tis parehomenes ypiresies ("Borei na mi boro na do to
                        > logariasmo mou meso internet, alla alloi de boroun kan na anoixoun logarismo.")
                        >
                        >> Telos, pistevw oti ta pairnoun xontra apo tin MS me skopo na
                        >> anagkazoun toys pelates toys (emas) na xrisimopoioume mono
                        >> IE gia toso krisimes efarmoges, 8elontas na perasoun tin idea
                        >> toy kyrile asfalous kai pleon episimou browser.
                        >
                        > De nomizo pos i MS ehei ti diafimistiki anagi tis AlphaBank. Mi xehname pos i
                        > Ellada, opos kai kathe alli hora me "paraxeno" encoding monopolithike apo ti MS
                        > kata tin epohi pou to Linux akoma epairne bros kai ta klassika Unix, os
                        > aythentika amerikanika proionta, agnoousan tin yparxi allon horon, glosson klp.
                        > Ayta ta travmata tha travane gia poly kairo...
                        >
                        > Symeon Charalabides (cosmopolite trainee)
                        > -------------------------------------------------
                        > http://www.systasis.com
                        >
                        >
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                      • Nick Demou (enLogic)
                        ... προφανώς εννοείς Ο κυριότερος λόγος που ο ΙΕ έχει τα περισσότερα *exploits* σε κενά
                        Message 11 of 19 , Sep 25, 2004
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                          A.Papadakhs-Pesaresi wrote:

                          > O kurioteros logos pou o IE exei ta perissotera kena asfaleias einai
                          > giati
                          > einai o pio diadedomenos browser sto kosmo.

                          προφανώς εννοείς "Ο κυριότερος λόγος που ο ΙΕ έχει τα περισσότερα
                          *exploits* σε κενά ασφάλειας..." διότι το γεγονός της μεγάλης διάδοσης
                          δεν *επιβάλει* σχεδιαστικά λάθη αλλά σίγουρα βοηθά πολύ στο να
                          αποκαλύπτονται αυτά που έτσι και αλλιώς υπάρχουν.

                          > ... Se auto to pragma synhgorei kai to oti oi
                          > perissoteroi desktop upologistes(ennowntas oti elegxonai apo, sxetika,
                          > adaeis xrhstes) trexoun IE.

                          Μα την αλήθεια βοηθά όντως πολύ

                          > An uphrxe kai o Firefox, h' o Mozilla, h'
                          > opoiosdhpote allos(an kai merikoi einai kai pio palioi apo ton IE) apo
                          > tote pou yphrxe o IE kai epishs erxontan MAZI me to pio diadedomeno O.S.
                          > ston kosmo, tote, gnwmh mou einai, oti tha eixan brei kai sautous para
                          > polla kena asfaleias.

                          Σίγουρα αν διαδοθεί πολύ ο Firefox ή ο Mozilla browser θα αποκαλύπτονται
                          προβλήματα ασφάλειας με υψηλότερο ρυθμό από ότι τώρα αλλά δύσκολα θα
                          φτάσουν το απογοητευτικό επίπεδο του IE αν η ομάδα ανάπτυξης τους δεν
                          κάνει μερικά παταγώδη λάθη που έκανε η MS. Δύο μου έρχονται άμεσα κατά
                          νου α) να δώσει προτεραιότητα στα features και την ευκολία χρήσης έναντι
                          της ασφάλειας β) να πάψει να ασχολείται επί μήνες (μήπως χρόνια?) με την
                          περαιτέρω ανάπτυξη του browser. Ειδικά η MS έκανε και ένα λάθος που μόνο
                          αυτή μπορεί να κάνει γιατί μόνο αυτή έχει την επιλογή. Δεν επένδυσε ένα
                          ελάχιστο ποσοστό των απίστευτα τεράστιων χρηματικών αποθεμάτων της στον
                          ενδελεχή έλεγχο για security flows.
                        • vatraxious
                          Poses fores exei akoustei afto to 8ema. En merei alh8eia en merei oxi. Katarxhn opoiosdhpote browser pera apo ton IE den exei to idio interaction me to OS pou
                          Message 12 of 19 , Sep 25, 2004
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                            Poses fores exei akoustei afto to 8ema.
                            En merei alh8eia en merei oxi.
                            Katarxhn opoiosdhpote browser pera apo ton IE den exei to idio
                            interaction me to OS pou exei o IE me ton Windows Explorer.
                            Alla to pio vasiko einai oti oi ypoloipoi browsers pou anafer8hkan,
                            anhkoun ston xwro tou Open-Source. Safws kai 8a anakalyptontai kena
                            asfaleias oso pio poly xrhsimopoieitai o ekastote browser kai safws
                            oso perissoteres dynatothtes prosti8entai se afton. Alla h dynamh tou
                            Open-Source egkeitai sthn megalh koinothta, pragma pou shmainei amesh
                            antapokrish apo opoiondhpote to epi8ymei, kai synepws taxytata updates
                            h fixes. Se anti8esh me ton IE, gia opoio bug anakalyf8ei se aftous
                            tous browsers, ksereis oti 8a exeis amesa th lysh, kai isws an exeis
                            tis gnwseis na th dwseis esy kai oxi na perimeneis to epomeno patch h
                            SP ths sygkekrimenhs etaireias. Giafto kai mono to logo protimw kai
                            proteinw OpenSource efarmoges. Kyriws oson afora thn asfaleia.


                            --- In php_greek@yahoogroups.com, "Nick Demou (enLogic)" <ndemou@e...>
                            wrote:
                            >
                            >
                            > A.Papadakhs-Pesaresi wrote:
                            >
                            > > O kurioteros logos pou o IE exei ta perissotera kena asfaleias einai
                            > > giati
                            > > einai o pio diadedomenos browser sto kosmo.
                            >
                            > ðñïöáíþò åííïåßò "Ï êõñéüôåñïò ëüãïò ðïõ ï ÉÅ Ý÷åé ôá ðåñéóóüôåñá
                            > *exploits* óå êåíÜ áóöÜëåéáò..." äéüôé ôï ãåãïíüò ôçò ìåãÜëçò äéÜäïóçò
                            > äåí *åðéâÜëåé* ó÷åäéáóôéêÜ ëÜèç áëëÜ óßãïõñá âïçèÜ ðïëý óôï íá
                            > áðïêáëýðôïíôáé áõôÜ ðïõ Ýôóé êáé áëëéþò õðÜñ÷ïõí.
                            >
                            > > ... Se auto to pragma synhgorei kai to oti oi
                            > > perissoteroi desktop upologistes(ennowntas oti elegxonai apo, sxetika,
                            > > adaeis xrhstes) trexoun IE.
                            >
                            > Ìá ôçí áëÞèåéá âïçèÜ üíôùò ðïëý
                            >
                            > > An uphrxe kai o Firefox, h' o Mozilla, h'
                            > > opoiosdhpote allos(an kai merikoi einai kai pio palioi apo ton IE) apo
                            > > tote pou yphrxe o IE kai epishs erxontan MAZI me to pio
                            diadedomeno O.S.
                            > > ston kosmo, tote, gnwmh mou einai, oti tha eixan brei kai sautous para
                            > > polla kena asfaleias.
                            >
                            > Óßãïõñá áí äéáäïèåß ðïëý ï Firefox Þ ï Mozilla browser èá
                            áðïêáëýðôïíôáé
                            > ðñïâëÞìáôá áóöÜëåéáò ìå õøçëüôåñï ñõèìü áðü üôé ôþñá áëëÜ äýóêïëá èá
                            > öôÜóïõí ôï áðïãïçôåõôéêü åðßðåäï ôïõ IE áí ç ïìÜäá áíÜðôõîçò ôïõò äåí
                            > êÜíåé ìåñéêÜ ðáôáãþäç ëÜèç ðïõ Ýêáíå ç MS. Äýï ìïõ Ýñ÷ïíôáé Üìåóá êáôÜ
                            > íïõ á) íá äþóåé ðñïôåñáéüôçôá óôá features êáé ôçí åõêïëßá ÷ñÞóçò
                            Ýíáíôé
                            > ôçò áóöÜëåéáò â) íá ðÜøåé íá áó÷ïëåßôáé åðß ìÞíåò (ìÞðùò ÷ñüíéá?) ìå
                            ôçí
                            > ðåñáéôÝñù áíÜðôõîç ôïõ browser. ÅéäéêÜ ç MS Ýêáíå êáé Ýíá ëÜèïò ðïõ
                            ìüíï
                            > áõôÞ ìðïñåß íá êÜíåé ãéáôß ìüíï áõôÞ Ý÷åé ôçí åðéëïãÞ. Äåí åðÝíäõóå Ýíá
                            > åëÜ÷éóôï ðïóïóôü ôùí áðßóôåõôá ôåñÜóôéùí ÷ñçìáôéêþí áðïèåìÜôùí ôçò óôïí
                            > åíäåëå÷Þ Ýëåã÷ï ãéá security flows.
                          • William Wallace
                            Fantazomai oti den einai afto pou thelei o sinlistis, alla tespa. Emena se Firefox mou vgazei 5.0 kai iponnoei kati san Netscape 5.0 i Mozilla 5.0
                            Message 13 of 19 , Sep 25, 2004
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                              Fantazomai oti den einai afto pou thelei o sinlistis, alla tespa.
                              Emena se Firefox mou vgazei "5.0" kai iponnoei kati san "Netscape 5.0" i
                              Mozilla 5.0
                              Fantazomai oti afto pou thelei o Alaios einai
                              "You are using Mozilla Firefox" i esto "Mozilla 5.0" ktl.

                              On Fri, 24 Sep 2004, nop nop wrote:

                              > Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:42:21 +0100 (BST)
                              > From: nop nop <monstergr2000@...>
                              > Reply-To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
                              > To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
                              > Subject: Re: [php_greek] browser detection?
                              >
                              > /************************************************************************/
                              > /* 7. function get_browser_version
                              > */
                              > /************************************************************************/
                              >
                              > function get_browser_version()
                              > {
                              > if (ereg( 'MSIE
                              > ([0-9].[0-9]{1,2})',$_SERVER["HTTP_USER_AGENT"],$browser_version))
                              > return($browser_version[1]);
                              > elseif (ereg( 'Opera
                              > ([0-9].[0-9]{1,2})',$_SERVER["HTTP_USER_AGENT"],$browser_version))
                              > return($browser_version[1]);
                              > elseif (ereg(
                              > 'Netscape6/([0-9].[0-9]{1,2})',$_SERVER["HTTP_USER_AGENT"],$browser_version))
                              > return($browser_version[1]);
                              > elseif (ereg(
                              > 'Konqueror.([0-9].[0-9]{1,2})',$_SERVER["HTTP_USER_AGENT"],$browser_version))
                              > return($browser_version[1]);
                              > elseif (ereg(
                              > 'Mozilla/([0-9].[0-9]{1,2})',$_SERVER["HTTP_USER_AGENT"],$browser_version))
                              > return($browser_version[1]);
                              > else
                              > return(0);
                              > }
                              >
                              >
                              >
                              > --- William Wallace <vplia@...> έγραψε:
                              > > To oti enas client iparxei pithanotita na se
                              > > mperdepsei den nomizw oti to
                              > > to ksereis. O kathenas mporei na ftiaksei ena web
                              > > browser (diskolo alla
                              > > oxi apithano) sto poio na to rithmizei etsi wste na
                              > > fenetai gia p.x. ie
                              > > (ksou apo edw triskatarate) :)
                              > >
                              > > iparxei mia entoli tis php i opoia legete preg_match
                              > > kai i opoia psaxnei
                              > > se ena sting gia ena allo.
                              > >
                              > > H vasiki idea einai preg_match(/$browser/,
                              > > $_SERVER['HTTP_USER_AGENT'])
                              > > alla nomizw oti oi grammes kwdika pou sou edw sto
                              > > proigoumeno mail mou
                              > > (afto me to switch) sto linoun to provlima.
                              > > To dokimases?
                              > > Ti apotelesmata sou vgazei?
                              > > Ti den s'aresoun apo afta?
                              > >
                              > > Perissoteres plirofories sto http://www.php.net
                              > >
                              > > > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
                              > > > From: Alaios <alaios@...>
                              > > > Reply-To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
                              > > > To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
                              > > > Subject: Re: [php_greek] browser detection?
                              > > >
                              > > > Eyxaristo gia tis apantiseis sas...
                              > > > Exo mazepsei antistoixa snifferakia se php kai
                              > > > javascript... ola omos "mperdeyoyn".Yparei
                              > > perissoteri
                              > > > pliroforia apo osi tha xreiazosouna.. To eidaniko
                              > > tha
                              > > > itan ean ypirxe ena script to opoio sou elege oti
                              > > > einai tade browser tade ekdosis..
                              > > >
                              > > > Gia paradeigma ena diko mou scriptaki rixnei ola
                              > > > aytase mia metabliti
                              > > >
                              > > > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US;
                              > > > rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U;
                              > > Windows
                              > > > NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113Mozilla/5.0
                              > > > (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6)
                              > > > Gecko/20040113Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT
                              > > 5.0;
                              > > > en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 O Browser einai ns6
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > > Ti na ekmetalleytho ego apo ayta? Kai pos mporo na
                              > > > ksero oti enas client den tha prospathisei na me
                              > > > mperdepsei????
                              > > > Den ksero...paratiro pantos para polles lyseis gia
                              > > to
                              > > > problima kai o kosmos genikotera ekei ekso
                              > > > psaxnetai...
                              > > > Sas eyxaristo poly
                              > > > Kali sas imera
                              > > >
                              > > >
                              > > > --- William Wallace <vplia@...> wrote:
                              > > >
                              > > > > An kai kathistermena, tha sou dwsw tin dikia mou
                              > > > > ekdoxi se php kwdika. I
                              > > > > hope it helps!
                              > > > >
                              > > > > $browser=$_SERVER["HTTP_USER_AGENT"];
                              > > > > $array=split($browser, "/");
                              > > > > $test=split($array[3], " ");
                              > > > > switch($test[1])
                              > > > > {
                              > > > > case 'Firefox':
                              > > > > echo("You are Using Mozilla Firefox");
                              > > > > break;
                              > > > > case 'Mozilla':
                              > > > > echo("You are using Mozilla");
                              > > > > break;
                              > > > > ktl....
                              > > > > default:
                              > > > > echo("Your browser could not be detected");
                              > > > > break;
                              > > > > }//end of switch
                              > > > >
                              > > > > On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Alaios wrote:
                              > > > >
                              > > > > > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 09:59:31 -0700 (PDT)
                              > > > > > From: Alaios <alaios@...>
                              > > > > > Reply-To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
                              > > > > > To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
                              > > > > > Subject: [php_greek] browser detection?
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > Kalispera..... Prospatho na kataskeyaso ena
                              > > script
                              > > > > pou na anixneyei ton browser tou xristi .....
                              > > Eimai
                              > > > > metaksy ..... server-side kai client side
                              > > > > scripting.....
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > Ayto pou me endiaferei einai na min mporei o
                              > > > > xristis na ksegela ton kodika mou kai na leei
                              > > oti
                              > > > > einai kati allo....
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > Me endiaferei i periptosi tis php... Pos na
                              > > > > ksekiniso kai pou na koitakso?
                              > > > > >
                              > > > > > Eyxarisot
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                            • Alaios
                              Akrinos ayto thelo... ... /************************************************************************/ ...
                              Message 14 of 19 , Sep 25, 2004
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                                Akrinos ayto thelo...

                                --- William Wallace <vplia@...> wrote:

                                >
                                > Fantazomai oti den einai afto pou thelei o
                                > sinlistis, alla tespa.
                                > Emena se Firefox mou vgazei "5.0" kai iponnoei kati
                                > san "Netscape 5.0" i
                                > Mozilla 5.0
                                > Fantazomai oti afto pou thelei o Alaios einai
                                > "You are using Mozilla Firefox" i esto "Mozilla 5.0"
                                > ktl.
                                >
                                > On Fri, 24 Sep 2004, nop nop wrote:
                                >
                                > > Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 12:42:21 +0100 (BST)
                                > > From: nop nop <monstergr2000@...>
                                > > Reply-To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
                                > > To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
                                > > Subject: Re: [php_greek] browser detection?
                                > >
                                > >
                                >
                                /************************************************************************/
                                > > /* 7. function get_browser_version
                                > > */
                                > >
                                >
                                /************************************************************************/
                                > >
                                > > function get_browser_version()
                                > > {
                                > > if (ereg( 'MSIE
                                > >
                                >
                                ([0-9].[0-9]{1,2})',$_SERVER["HTTP_USER_AGENT"],$browser_version))
                                > > return($browser_version[1]);
                                > > elseif (ereg( 'Opera
                                > >
                                >
                                ([0-9].[0-9]{1,2})',$_SERVER["HTTP_USER_AGENT"],$browser_version))
                                > > return($browser_version[1]);
                                > > elseif (ereg(
                                > >
                                >
                                'Netscape6/([0-9].[0-9]{1,2})',$_SERVER["HTTP_USER_AGENT"],$browser_version))
                                > > return($browser_version[1]);
                                > > elseif (ereg(
                                > >
                                >
                                'Konqueror.([0-9].[0-9]{1,2})',$_SERVER["HTTP_USER_AGENT"],$browser_version))
                                > > return($browser_version[1]);
                                > > elseif (ereg(
                                > >
                                >
                                'Mozilla/([0-9].[0-9]{1,2})',$_SERVER["HTTP_USER_AGENT"],$browser_version))
                                > > return($browser_version[1]);
                                > > else
                                > > return(0);
                                > > }
                                > >
                                > >
                                > >
                                > > --- William Wallace <vplia@...> ������:
                                > > > To oti enas client iparxei pithanotita na se
                                > > > mperdepsei den nomizw oti to
                                > > > to ksereis. O kathenas mporei na ftiaksei ena
                                > web
                                > > > browser (diskolo alla
                                > > > oxi apithano) sto poio na to rithmizei etsi wste
                                > na
                                > > > fenetai gia p.x. ie
                                > > > (ksou apo edw triskatarate) :)
                                > > >
                                > > > iparxei mia entoli tis php i opoia legete
                                > preg_match
                                > > > kai i opoia psaxnei
                                > > > se ena sting gia ena allo.
                                > > >
                                > > > H vasiki idea einai preg_match(/$browser/,
                                > > > $_SERVER['HTTP_USER_AGENT'])
                                > > > alla nomizw oti oi grammes kwdika pou sou edw
                                > sto
                                > > > proigoumeno mail mou
                                > > > (afto me to switch) sto linoun to provlima.
                                > > > To dokimases?
                                > > > Ti apotelesmata sou vgazei?
                                > > > Ti den s'aresoun apo afta?
                                > > >
                                > > > Perissoteres plirofories sto http://www.php.net
                                > > >
                                > > > > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:20:43 -0700 (PDT)
                                > > > > From: Alaios <alaios@...>
                                > > > > Reply-To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
                                > > > > To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
                                > > > > Subject: Re: [php_greek] browser detection?
                                > > > >
                                > > > > Eyxaristo gia tis apantiseis sas...
                                > > > > Exo mazepsei antistoixa snifferakia se php kai
                                > > > > javascript... ola omos "mperdeyoyn".Yparei
                                > > > perissoteri
                                > > > > pliroforia apo osi tha xreiazosouna.. To
                                > eidaniko
                                > > > tha
                                > > > > itan ean ypirxe ena script to opoio sou elege
                                > oti
                                > > > > einai tade browser tade ekdosis..
                                > > > >
                                > > > > Gia paradeigma ena diko mou scriptaki rixnei
                                > ola
                                > > > > aytase mia metabliti
                                > > > >
                                > > > > Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0;
                                > en-US;
                                > > > > rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U;
                                > > > Windows
                                > > > > NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6)
                                > Gecko/20040113Mozilla/5.0
                                > > > > (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6)
                                > > > > Gecko/20040113Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows
                                > NT
                                > > > 5.0;
                                > > > > en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 O Browser einai
                                > ns6
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > > Ti na ekmetalleytho ego apo ayta? Kai pos
                                > mporo na
                                > > > > ksero oti enas client den tha prospathisei na
                                > me
                                > > > > mperdepsei????
                                > > > > Den ksero...paratiro pantos para polles lyseis
                                > gia
                                > > > to
                                > > > > problima kai o kosmos genikotera ekei ekso
                                > > > > psaxnetai...
                                > > > > Sas eyxaristo poly
                                > > > > Kali sas imera
                                > > > >
                                > > > >
                                > > > > --- William Wallace <vplia@...> wrote:
                                > > > >
                                > > > > > An kai kathistermena, tha sou dwsw tin dikia
                                > mou
                                > > > > > ekdoxi se php kwdika. I
                                > > > > > hope it helps!
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > $browser=$_SERVER["HTTP_USER_AGENT"];
                                > > > > > $array=split($browser, "/");
                                > > > > > $test=split($array[3], " ");
                                > > > > > switch($test[1])
                                > > > > > {
                                > > > > > case 'Firefox':
                                > > > > > echo("You are Using Mozilla Firefox");
                                > > > > > break;
                                > > > > > case 'Mozilla':
                                > > > > > echo("You are using Mozilla");
                                > > > > > break;
                                > > > > > ktl....
                                > > > > > default:
                                > > > > > echo("Your browser could not be
                                > detected");
                                > > > > > break;
                                > > > > > }//end of switch
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > On Tue, 21 Sep 2004, Alaios wrote:
                                > > > > >
                                > > > > > > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2004 09:59:31 -0700
                                > (PDT)
                                > > > > > > From: Alaios <alaios@...>
                                > > > > > > Reply-To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
                                > > > > > > To: php_greek@yahoogroups.com
                                > > > > > > Subject: [php_greek] browser detection?
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > Kalispera..... Prospatho na kataskeyaso
                                > ena
                                > > > script
                                > > > > > pou na anixneyei ton browser tou xristi
                                > .....
                                > > > Eimai
                                > > > > > metaksy ..... server-side kai client side
                                > > > > > scripting.....
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > Ayto pou me endiaferei einai na min mporei
                                > o
                                > > > > > xristis na ksegela ton kodika mou kai na
                                > leei
                                > > > oti
                                > > > > > einai kati allo....
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > Me endiaferei i periptosi tis php... Pos
                                > na
                                > > > > > ksekiniso kai pou na koitakso?
                                > > > > > >
                                > > > > > > Eyxarisot
                                > > > > > >
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                                Kalhspera stous sinlistes, ... Basikws, exploits onomazontai sunhthws ta idia ta programmata ta opoia ekmetalleuontai to keno asfaleias pou uparxei se kapoio
                                Message 15 of 19 , Sep 26, 2004
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                                  Kalhspera stous sinlistes,

                                  Αρχικό μήνυμα από "Nick Demou (enLogic)" <ndemou@...>:

                                  >
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > A.Papadakhs-Pesaresi wrote:
                                  >
                                  > > O kurioteros logos pou o IE exei ta perissotera kena asfaleias einai
                                  > > giati
                                  > > einai o pio diadedomenos browser sto kosmo.
                                  >
                                  > προφανώς εννοείς "Ο κυριότερος λόγος που ο ΙΕ έχει τα περισσότερα
                                  > *exploits* σε κενά ασφάλειας..." διότι το γεγονός της μεγάλης διάδοσης
                                  > δεν *επιβάλει* σχεδιαστικά λάθη αλλά σίγουρα βοηθά πολύ στο να
                                  > αποκαλύπτονται αυτά που έτσι και αλλιώς υπάρχουν.

                                  Basikws, exploits onomazontai sunhthws ta idia ta programmata ta opoia
                                  ekmetalleuontai to keno asfaleias pou uparxei se kapoio programma. Mporei na
                                  uparxoun diafora exploits dhmiourghmena apo diaforerikous xrhstes apo olo ton
                                  kosmo gia to idio keno asfaleias, an kai sunhthws apo thn stigmh pou tha bgei
                                  ena kai diadothei den yparxei anagh gia deutero alla tha elega oti eksartatai
                                  kuriws ap'to keno asfaleias. Opote ta exploits me ta kena asfaleias exoun mia
                                  sxesh "1 pros 1" se genikes grammes. Auto ennousa se telikh analush..:)

                                  Gia to deutero sxolio tha sumfwnhsw se genikes grammes alla tha elega oti nai
                                  men borei na uparxoun sxediastika lathi
                                  ston explorer alla den eimai sigouros gia to kata poson auta einai o kurioteros
                                  logos pou exoun bgei ta perissotera exploits. Ws gnwston, se ola ta
                                  programmata(kai eidika sta megala) PANTA uparxei kai ena teleutaio bug to opoio
                                  borei na ekmetaleutei o kathe hacker,cracker gia na apokthsei prosbash.
                                  Opote edw erxetai kai to epixeirhma peri ths megalhs diadoshs tou IE,
                                  to opoio dinei thn dunatothta se opoiodhpote script
                                  kiddie,cracker,hacker, ews kai aplo xrhsth na prospathisei na brei kapoio bug
                                  oso *kala* kai an einai sxediasmenos o IE. Antistoixh suberifora parathreitai
                                  kai sta Windows ta opoia me to na
                                  einai ta pio diadedomena dinoun thn dunatothta se opoiondhpote na prospathisei
                                  na brei kapoio back door se auta.

                                  >
                                  > > ... Se auto to pragma synhgorei kai to oti oi
                                  > > perissoteroi desktop upologistes(ennowntas oti elegxonai apo, sxetika,
                                  > > adaeis xrhstes) trexoun IE.
                                  >
                                  > Μα την αλήθεια βοηθά όντως πολύ
                                  >

                                  Gia auto kai oloi exoun strafei na broun trypes sta Windows. Gia na apokthsoun
                                  prosbash stous adaeis xrhstes oi opoioi enw exei ginei hijacked to pc tous h'
                                  trexei kapoios elleeinos keylogger, kai oi idioi profanestata den to
                                  kseroune, pane na plhktrologhsoune ton arithmo ths pistwtikhs tous kartas
                                  se kapoio site me to profanes apotelesma...:)

                                  > > An uphrxe kai o Firefox, h' o Mozilla, h'
                                  > > opoiosdhpote allos(an kai merikoi einai kai pio palioi apo ton IE) apo
                                  > > tote pou yphrxe o IE kai epishs erxontan MAZI me to pio diadedomeno O.S.
                                  > > ston kosmo, tote, gnwmh mou einai, oti tha eixan brei kai sautous para
                                  > > polla kena asfaleias.
                                  >
                                  > Σίγουρα αν διαδοθεί πολύ ο Firefox ή ο Mozilla browser θα αποκαλύπτονται
                                  > προβλήματα ασφάλειας με υψηλότερο ρυθμό από ότι τώρα αλλά δύσκολα θα
                                  > φτάσουν το απογοητευτικό επίπεδο του IE αν η ομάδα ανάπτυξης τους δεν
                                  > κάνει μερικά παταγώδη λάθη που έκανε η MS. Δύο μου έρχονται άμεσα κατά
                                  > νου α) να δώσει προτεραιότητα στα features και την ευκολία χρήσης έναντι
                                  > της ασφάλειας β) να πάψει να ασχολείται επί μήνες (μήπως χρόνια?) με την
                                  > περαιτέρω ανάπτυξη του browser.

                                  Ontws

                                  Ειδικά η MS έκανε και ένα λάθος που μόνο
                                  > αυτή μπορεί να κάνει γιατί μόνο αυτή έχει την επιλογή. Δεν επένδυσε ένα
                                  > ελάχιστο ποσοστό των απίστευτα τεράστιων χρηματικών αποθεμάτων της στον
                                  > ενδελεχή έλεγχο για security flows.
                                  >
                                  Exw mia entypwsh oti kai na ependusei polla xrhmata pali to idio apotelesma tha
                                  exei mias kai
                                  kapou ekei sthn makrinh taulandh, tha uparxei ena dekapentaxrono porwmeno me
                                  tous upologistes(pou profanestata zei sto upogeio ths manas tou :) ), to opoio
                                  tha psaxei kai tha brei ena elleeino buffer overflow se kapoia tyxaia eperwthsh
                                  pou kanei kapoia uphresia twn windows. (parakseno paradeigma alla sunhthws etsi
                                  ginontai auta).
                                  Mia, duo meres meta tha diabazoume "kai neo outbreak iwn apo thn anatolh",
                                  duo-treis bdomades meta gia kainouries ekdoseis autou tou iou, blepe Virus.A,
                                  Virus.B kai paei legontas...:)
                                  Me auta bebaia den prospathisw na dikaiologhsw thn MS alla mou fainetai, genika,
                                  oti ta pragmata den einai kai panta sta xeria ths.

                                  Kai gia na kleisw, gurizontas pisw sto epixeirhma peri diadoshs, tha elega oti
                                  einai pio eukolo(kai auto einai kuriws gnwmh para ebeiria :) ), na apokthseis
                                  prosbash se mhxamhma pou trexei linux para windows. Mhn ksexname oti to linux
                                  exei sunhthws kamia 10-20 uphresies pou trexoun se diafora ports tou upologisth
                                  ta opoia exoun graftei apo diaforous programmatistes me diaforetiko background.
                                  Epishs, o source code, autwn twn uphresiwn einai genika eleutheros se olous me
                                  apotelesma o opoiosdhpote pou exei mia kalh gnwsh ston programmatismo na paei
                                  na eksetasei to programma kai na brei kapoia trypa. Antitheta o kwdikas twn
                                  windows den einai anoixtos me apotelesma na mhn einai eukolo gia kapoion aplo
                                  cracker na brei backdoor. Edw erxontai bebaia kai kollane fhmes pou lene p.x.
                                  oti o - gnwstos se olous fantazomai - Blaster exei bgei apo ta ergasthria ths
                                  Symantec kai oxi apo memonwmenous xrhstes...

                                  p.s. sorry an sas kourasa alla einai endiaferouses autes oi suzhthseis kai kalo
                                  einai na ginontai kai se paromoies ellhnikes listes.

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                                • Symeon Charalabides
                                  ... Ayto pou symvainei einai to proto, alla den ofeiletai se nomika zitimata. I exelixi tou Mozilla arhise ti stigmi pou i Netscape aplose ton kodika tou
                                  Message 16 of 19 , Oct 22, 2004
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                                    > kai kati allo pou ksexasa sto proigoumeno mail
                                    > Afto pou les (oti sou emfanizei Mozilla enw einai netscape) den einai
                                    > pragmatiko provlima giati
                                    > a) O mozilla xrisimipoiei tin mixani tis Netscape
                                    > b) H Netscape xrisimopoiei tin mixani tou moxilla
                                    >
                                    > Den thimamai poio apo ta dio simvenei giati kapoia (mozilla/netscape)
                                    > einai thigatriki i kati tetoio (nomika zitimata metaksi twn eteriwn) tis
                                    > allis (netscape/mozilla)
                                    >
                                    Ayto pou symvainei einai to proto, alla den ofeiletai se nomika zitimata. I
                                    exelixi tou Mozilla arhise ti stigmi pou i Netscape aplose ton kodika tou
                                    Navigator sta podia tis open source koinotitas. To opoio fysika ekane giati eihe
                                    fanera hasei tin koursa ton browser me tis apisteytes argopories sto na veltiosei
                                    ton geloio Navigator 4.x.

                                    I Mozilla, os etairia, oudemia shesi ehei me ti Netscape, ektos apo to oti
                                    ftiahnei browsers (Mozilla, Firefox) pou hrisimopoioun ti mihani Gecko pou
                                    protoemfanistike ston Navigator 6, an de kano lathos. I Netscape anakoinose ton
                                    Martio (nomizo) pos stamataei episima tin peraitero anaptyxi tou Navigator kai
                                    ara de dynatai na yparxoun nomika themata - ohi pos ypirxan pote.
                                    A, kai opos egrapsa kai se kapoia alli lista tote, "kala xekoubidia".

                                    > > Ti na ekmetalleytho ego apo ayta? Kai pos mporo na
                                    > > ksero oti enas client den tha prospathisei na me
                                    > > mperdepsei????

                                    Ayto de boreis na to xereis. To string $HTTP_USER_AGENT apofasizetai apo ta
                                    headers pou stelnei o browser ston server kata to HTTP Request. Stis modernes
                                    version, oi Mozilla, Firefox kai Opera boroun na rythmistoun, poly eykola
                                    malista, oste na stelnoun to antistoiho string gia na anagnorizontai os
                                    opoiosdipote allos browser. Giati na kanei kaneis kati tetoio? Synithos gia kati
                                    aishra site pou ehoun ftiahtei me FrontPage kai ohi mono ypostirizoun mono IE,
                                    alla _petane_exo_ tous allous browser. Mou ekane entyposi ki emena, alla yparhoun
                                    kai tetoia.

                                    Apo kei kai pera, prepei na anarotitheis, nomizo, an ontos se endiaferei na eisai
                                    apolytos sigouros pos xereis akrivos ti browser hrisimopoiei o hristis (to opoio
                                    DE boreis na eisai). Giati se noiazei toso? Se peirazei an o fantasiopliktos
                                    hackerakos allaxei to browser signature kai dei se Opera to periehomeno poy
                                    eftiaxes gia Mozilla? I theleis na timoriseis olous tous hristes IE deihnontas
                                    tous mia ble othoni?

                                    De nomizo pos eheis kammia ypohreosi na prostateyseis tous hristes pou
                                    prospathoun energa na "spasoun" ta script sou. Apo ti stigmi pou i asfaleia sou
                                    einai akeraia, as frontisoun aytoi tin anesi tous me to na mi kanoun ataxies.
                                    Hrisimopoiise sosti XHTML, CSS kai server-side scripting kai syntoma de tha se
                                    noiazei ti browser hrisimopoiei o hristis sou. An tora yparhei toso sovaros logos
                                    na diaforopoiiseis to periehomeno i tin emfanisi, i protasi tou Dimitri einai i
                                    pleon isorropimeni: as epilexei o hristis pos thelei na dei to periehomeno pou
                                    tou prosfereis, kai esy nipteis tas heiras sou.



                                    An omos yparhei sovaros logos gia

                                    Symeon Charalabides (cosmopolite trainee)
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                                    http://www.systasis.com
                                  • Symeon Charalabides
                                    ... ... to opoio fysika einai klassiki apopsi Dilbert. I mavri alitheia einai pos o IE ehei apodedeigmena makran ta perissotera provlimata asfaleias, kai den
                                    Message 17 of 19 , Oct 24, 2004
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                                      > Episis, tou fobizei kai to open source. 8eloun na apokleioun
                                      > browsers poy einai open source ka8ws etsi nomizoun oti i
                                      > asfaleia einai elegxomeni kai periorismeni.

                                      ... to opoio fysika einai klassiki apopsi Dilbert. I mavri alitheia einai pos o
                                      IE ehei apodedeigmena makran ta perissotera provlimata asfaleias, kai den arkei
                                      apla na eisai adais gia na mi to anagnorizeis - prepei na eheis htypisei
                                      lovotomi. I to akadimaiko tis antistoiho (MBA ;-)

                                      > Episis, pi8anon na apaitoun IE exontas yp'opsin toys oti
                                      > argotera mporei na xrisimopoiisoun-egkatastisoun ActiveX
                                      > controls symbata mono me IE.

                                      Ayto theoro ki ego pithanotero. Einai poly trendy gia mia epiheirisi na ehei
                                      apaitiseis apo tous pelates tis, allios na trone porta. I mouri metraei deka
                                      fores perissotero apo tis parehomenes ypiresies ("Borei na mi boro na do to
                                      logariasmo mou meso internet, alla alloi de boroun kan na anoixoun logarismo.")

                                      > Telos, pistevw oti ta pairnoun xontra apo tin MS me skopo na
                                      > anagkazoun toys pelates toys (emas) na xrisimopoioume mono
                                      > IE gia toso krisimes efarmoges, 8elontas na perasoun tin idea
                                      > toy kyrile asfalous kai pleon episimou browser.

                                      De nomizo pos i MS ehei ti diafimistiki anagi tis AlphaBank. Mi xehname pos i
                                      Ellada, opos kai kathe alli hora me "paraxeno" encoding monopolithike apo ti MS
                                      kata tin epohi pou to Linux akoma epairne bros kai ta klassika Unix, os
                                      aythentika amerikanika proionta, agnoousan tin yparxi allon horon, glosson klp.
                                      Ayta ta travmata tha travane gia poly kairo...

                                      Symeon Charalabides (cosmopolite trainee)
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                                      http://www.systasis.com
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