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  • TheGreat Gonik
    xmm.. koita to glimmer den to exw dokimasei giati exw akousei diafora.. xrisimopoihse to jEdit. einai arketa kalo! kato apo windows xrisimopoiw dreamweaver
    Message 1 of 9 , May 11, 2002
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      xmm.. koita to glimmer den to exw "dokimasei" giati
      exw akousei diafora.. xrisimopoihse to jEdit. einai
      arketa kalo!

      kato apo windows xrisimopoiw dreamweaver ultradev 4
      (+phakt) kai fysika kirios to HomeSite 5

      elpizw na boi8isa

      --- Stoilis Giannis <stoilis@...> wrote:
      > geia sas...
      > meta apo arketo ekneurismo me to nedit kai to
      > glimmer, 8a h8ela na mou
      > proteinetai ena grafiko editor gia php, katw apo
      > linux. syntax highlighting
      > aparaithto. ti xrhsimopoieite eseis? katw apo
      > windows xrhsimopoiw to Code
      > Genie, me to opoio eimai euxaristhmenos. to glimmer
      > tou moiazei arketa, alla
      > kai pali einai kati ligotero apo auto pou
      > perimenw...
      > ti exete na mou proteinete eseis?
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    • George Georgiou
      Apo tote pou exw allaksei to perivallon tis php , kai exw proxorisei se ColdFusion platform, xrisimopoiw to Macromedia Studio (pou kanonika einai gia
      Message 2 of 9 , May 12, 2002
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        Apo tote pou exw allaksei to perivallon tis php , kai exw proxorisei se ColdFusion platform, xrisimopoiw to Macromedia Studio (pou kanonika einai gia coldfusion), omws eimai sigouros pws kanei ti douleia tou kai gia alles glwsses , simperilavanomenou kai tis PHP. (milaw panta gia windows platform!)

        Dokimaste to :)

        George


        At 08:46 PM 5/11/2002 +0300, you wrote:
        geia sas...
            meta apo arketo ekneurismo me to nedit kai to glimmer, 8a h8ela na mou
        proteinetai ena grafiko editor gia php, katw apo linux. syntax highlighting
        aparaithto. ti xrhsimopoieite eseis? katw apo windows xrhsimopoiw to Code
        Genie, me to opoio eimai euxaristhmenos. to glimmer tou moiazei arketa, alla
        kai pali einai kati ligotero apo auto pou perimenw...
        ti exete na mou proteinete eseis?

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      • Stoilis Giannis
        ... nai, to eixa dei sto freshmeat, otan epsaxna gia editor... grammeno se java... anefera oti 8elw ton editor na einai *grhgoros*? ;-) ... mpa, se windows
        Message 3 of 9 , May 12, 2002
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          Στις Κυρ 12 Μαι 2002 00:39, ο/η TheGreat Gonik έγραψε:
          > xmm.. koita to glimmer den to exw "dokimasei" giati
          > exw akousei diafora.. xrisimopoihse to jEdit. einai
          > arketa kalo!

          nai, to eixa dei sto freshmeat, otan epsaxna gia editor... grammeno se
          java... anefera oti 8elw ton editor na einai *grhgoros*? ;-)

          > kato apo windows xrisimopoiw dreamweaver ultradev 4
          > (+phakt) kai fysika kirios to HomeSite 5

          mpa, se windows kanw elaxisto development, opote den 8a katsw na to psaksw
          kai polu. euxaristw pantws, 8a to exw upopsin mou.

          - giannis
        • Stoilis Giannis
          ... Asxeto (an kai uposxe8hka na mhn dhmiourghsw flame war), ti ennoeis oti les oti allakses to periballon to php kai proxwrhses se ColdFusion. giati? ti
          Message 4 of 9 , May 12, 2002
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            Στις Κυρ 12 Μαι 2002 12:27, ο/η George Georgiou έγραψε:
            > Apo tote pou exw allaksei to perivallon tis php , kai exw proxorisei se
            > ColdFusion platform, xrisimopoiw to Macromedia Studio (pou kanonika einai
            > gia coldfusion), omws eimai sigouros pws kanei ti douleia tou kai gia alles
            > glwsses , simperilavanomenou kai tis PHP. (milaw panta gia windows
            > platform!)

            Asxeto (an kai uposxe8hka na mhn dhmiourghsw flame war), ti ennoeis oti les
            oti allakses to periballon to php kai "proxwrhses" se ColdFusion. giati? ti
            kaneis twra parapanw? apo endiaferon rwtaw, mia pou thn php thn xrhsimopoiw
            mono gia database frontend, apla pragmata.

            - giannis
          • George Georgiou
            Otan lew pws allaksa perivallon , apla ennow pws exw afisei tin PHP sti panta kai asxoloumai apoklistika me tin ColdFusion. To kinitro pou eixa kai ekana auti
            Message 5 of 9 , May 12, 2002
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              Otan lew pws allaksa perivallon , apla ennow pws exw afisei tin PHP sti panta kai asxoloumai apoklistika me tin ColdFusion.
              To kinitro pou eixa kai ekana auti ti metavasi einai kathara epaggelmatiko. Sti kainourgia mou douleia, imoun ipoxrewmenos na to kanw auto.
              Gnorizotans loipon kai tis 2 autes glwsses , tha mporousa na pw pws eimai se thesi na kanw mia siggrisi metaksi tous.
              Einai para polla ta yper kai ta kata pou tha mporei kapios na sinantisei. Tha parei polli xrono na ta analysw, kai eimai sigouros pws ola mazi pote mou den tha ta kalipsw.

              Pantos, tha elega se gennikes grammes pws protimw tin ColdFusion. Ostoso i php itan i proti mou glwssa pou asxolitihka kai se kamia periptosi den prokeitai na tin eggatalipsw. (apodiksi , eimai akoma melos autis tis listas, opou imoun ena apo ta prwta idritika meli).

              Opws oloi mas gnorizoume , iparxoun ena soro glwsses programmatismou. Se kamia periptosi den mporoume na poume pws i mia einai kaliteri apo tin alli. Oles exoun kati prosferoun , kai oles mporoun na lisoun ena provlima eite me ton idio tropo, eite me diaforetiko.

              Gia na teliwsw auto to email , exw anaferei tin ColdFusion se auto to paradeigma, epidi exei (panta milaw gia prosopiki mou apopsi) , kalitero development environment a.k.a to Macromedia ColdFusion Studio. (na amesws ena pleonektima). Kai ena meionektima gia na min 'thiksw' tin php, distixws to license tou ColdFusion Server, einai poli akrivo! Thelete ki'allo? To hosting tou ColdFusion einai pio diskoloeureto , para tin PHP , kai stis perissoteres periptoseis , poli pio akrivo!

              Opotan , file Gianni , min anisixeis , 'flame war' metaksi programmatistwn pote den prokeitai na aniksei, efoson oloi mas dextoume pws i kathe glossa exei kai ta yper , kai ta kata. An twra paroume to thema kathara egwistika .... 'xese mesa Polixroni!'

              Best Regards,
              George


              At 02:49 PM 5/12/2002 +0300, you wrote:
              Óôéò Êõñ 12 Ìáé 2002 12:27, ï/ç George Georgiou Ýãñáøå:
              > Apo tote pou exw allaksei to perivallon tis php , kai exw proxorisei se
              > ColdFusion platform, xrisimopoiw to Macromedia Studio (pou kanonika einai
              > gia coldfusion), omws eimai sigouros pws kanei ti douleia tou kai gia alles
              > glwsses , simperilavanomenou kai tis PHP. (milaw panta gia windows
              > platform!)

              Asxeto (an kai uposxe8hka na mhn dhmiourghsw flame war), ti ennoeis oti les
              oti allakses to periballon to php kai "proxwrhses" se ColdFusion. giati? ti
              kaneis twra parapanw? apo endiaferon rwtaw, mia pou thn php thn xrhsimopoiw
              mono gia database frontend, apla pragmata.

              - giannis

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            • George Georgiou
              Well, Okay. Prosopiki mou apopsi panta: Stin ColdFusion , exoume ta tags. Diladi to syntax tis apexei poli apo tis php. San aspoume gia na kanoume ena
              Message 6 of 9 , May 12, 2002
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                Well,

                Okay. Prosopiki mou apopsi panta:
                Stin ColdFusion , exoume ta tags. Diladi to syntax tis apexei poli apo tis php. San aspoume gia na kanoume ena IF-STATEMENT , to syntax exei ws eksis:

                <CFIS mystring is "hello world">
                This is my first output
                <CFELSE>
                or this is the first?
                </CFELSE>

                Pleonektima twn tags, einai pws den exoume ta printf() or ta echo() functions pou gia mena einai enoxlitika , kathe fora pou thes na tipseis to output na ta kaleis. An omws kapios einai toso php-oriented programmer (as I am) , mporei na xrisimopoisei to cfscript. Diladi

                <CFSCRIPT>

                write here your php-like code ... no tags , just code!

                </CFSCRIPT>


                Opotan mporei kapios php-freak aneta na simvivastei kai me coldfusion. Allo pleonektima einai i efkolia pou exei me ta quiries se databases. San aspoume exei etoima tags , ta opia anigoun ena connection, fernoun ola ta data xwris na xriazetai kathe fora na prepei na ekteleseis connection epanw se databases .. etc.
                Allo, einai opws eidi anafera to ColdFusion Studio pou einai kai TO environment !
                epanalamvanw omws. Eki pou ysterei i mia glossa , iperterei i alli. Mia matia sto http://www.rit.edu/~sxa0868/pfw/project2/jsp/6.html isws pei kati parapano.


                At 08:50 AM 5/13/2002 -0200, you wrote:

                ma ta flame war ginontai kateksoxhn anamesa se programmatistes/administrators,
                oxi aparaithta me logika epixeirhmata... :)

                ... no comment. Xwris logika epixeirimata , mia sizitisi den mporei na stathei , an tha milame pleon gia sovari sizitisi/atoma.

                anytime,
                George





                anyway, thanks...

                - Giannis


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              • Stoilis Giannis
                ... apla epeidh pote mou den asxolh8hka me coldfusion, h8ela na akousw mia gnwmh apo kapoion pou to xrhsimopoiei praktika. euxaristw. ... ma ta flame war
                Message 7 of 9 , May 13, 2002
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                  Αναφορά σε... George Georgiou <george@...>:
                  > Gia na teliwsw auto to email , exw anaferei tin ColdFusion se auto to
                  > paradeigma, epidi exei (panta milaw gia prosopiki mou apopsi) , kalitero
                  > development environment a.k.a to Macromedia ColdFusion Studio. (na
                  > amesws ena pleonektima). Kai ena meionektima gia na min 'thiksw' tin php,
                  > distixws to license tou ColdFusion Server, einai poli akrivo!

                  apla epeidh pote mou den asxolh8hka me coldfusion, h8ela na akousw mia gnwmh apo
                  kapoion pou to xrhsimopoiei praktika. euxaristw.

                  > Opotan , file Gianni , min anisixeis , 'flame war' metaksi
                  > programmatistwn pote den prokeitai na aniksei,

                  ma ta flame war ginontai kateksoxhn anamesa se programmatistes/administrators,
                  oxi aparaithta me logika epixeirhmata... :)

                  anyway, thanks...

                  - Giannis
                • George Georgiou
                  twra pou irtha spiti kai to vlepw me pio katharo mialo , to if-statement stin coldfusion exei ws eksis :
                  Message 8 of 9 , May 13, 2002
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                    twra pou irtha spiti kai to vlepw me pio katharo mialo , to if-statement stin coldfusion exei ws eksis :

                    <CFIF mystring is "hello world'>
                    this is my string
                    <CFELSE>
                    or this is another one
                    </CFIF>

                    akoma kati pou isws endiaferei kapious pou tha theloun na asxolithoun me to thema , i Macromedia exei kanei re-implement ton ColdFusion server kai poli sintoma tha kikloforisei ton kainourgio , ton so-called 'Neon' server, or akoma kalitera ColdFusion MX server.

                    i megali diafora einai pws o server autos tha einai based kathara se Java. Opio procedure ginetai run , tin proti fora o server to kanei compile os class, opotan tin defteri fora pou enas user episkeftei tin selida , to class auto tha ginei run (, opotan den exoume compilation time ... thus extremely fast applications!!).

                    auta
                    George

                    At 09:30 AM 5/13/2002 +0300, you wrote:
                    Well,

                    Okay. Prosopiki mou apopsi panta:
                    Stin ColdFusion , exoume ta tags. Diladi to syntax tis apexei poli apo tis php. San aspoume gia na kanoume ena IF-STATEMENT , to syntax exei ws eksis:

                    <CFIS mystring is "hello world">
                    This is my first output
                    <CFELSE>
                    or this is the first?
                    </CFELSE>

                    Pleonektima twn tags, einai pws den exoume ta printf() or ta echo() functions pou gia mena einai enoxlitika , kathe fora pou thes na tipseis to output na ta kaleis. An omws kapios einai toso php-oriented programmer (as I am) , mporei na xrisimopoisei to cfscript. Diladi

                    <CFSCRIPT>

                    write here your php-like code ... no tags , just code!

                    </CFSCRIPT>


                    Opotan mporei kapios php-freak aneta na simvivastei kai me coldfusion. Allo pleonektima einai i efkolia pou exei me ta quiries se databases. San aspoume exei etoima tags , ta opia anigoun ena connection, fernoun ola ta data xwris na xriazetai kathe fora na prepei na ekteleseis connection epanw se databases .. etc.
                    Allo, einai opws eidi anafera to ColdFusion Studio pou einai kai TO environment !
                    epanalamvanw omws. Eki pou ysterei i mia glossa , iperterei i alli. Mia matia sto http://www.rit.edu/~sxa0868/pfw/project2/jsp/6.html isws pei kati parapano.


                    At 08:50 AM 5/13/2002 -0200, you wrote:

                    ma ta flame war ginontai kateksoxhn anamesa se programmatistes/administrators,
                    oxi aparaithta me logika epixeirhmata... :)

                    ... no comment. Xwris logika epixeirimata , mia sizitisi den mporei na stathei , an tha milame pleon gia sovari sizitisi/atoma.

                    anytime,
                    George





                    anyway, thanks...

                    - Giannis


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