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  • chex.rice
    mIEKAL, I am going to get around to getting some of the Hazelnut plants that Badgersett Research Farms has been working on one of these days. The natives are
    Message 1 of 13 , Apr 28, 2009
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      mIEKAL,
      I am going to get around to getting some of the Hazelnut plants that Badgersett Research Farms has been working on one of these days. The natives are so small and the european filbert gets the Eastern Hazel Blight.

      peace

      Chris
      zone 5a, IL, USA


      --- In pfaf@yahoogroups.com, mIEKAL aND <qazingulaza@...> wrote:
      >
      > This is why people plant hybrid chestnuts. A lot of folks in my area
      > growing them in southwest WI & of course Badgersett Farms has been
      > working on breeding them for nigh on 30 years. I've been getting good
      > production from about 5 trees for a few years now. A neighbor has
      > thousands planted.
      >
      > ~mIEKAL
      >
      > On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 12:48 PM, chex.rice <chex.rice@...> wrote:
      > >
      > >
      > > Sara, in America Chestnuts have all but been wiped out by the Chestnut
      > > Blight. Sad to say, it would not be a good idea to plant American Chestnuts
      > > in America because a tree would have very little chance of making it to
      > > maturity.
      > >
      > > If ya have a short growing season or harsh winters, I really recommend
      > > getting ahold of Gary Fernald at garyfernald@... about getting some of
      > > these seeds.
      > >
      > > Chris
      > > zone 5a, IL, USA
      > >
      > > --- In pfaf@yahoogroups.com, Sara Elbrai <selbrai@> wrote:
      > >>
      > >>
      > >> Are you planting any American chestnuts?
      > >>
      > >> Sara
      > >>
      > >> --- On Wed, 4/15/09, Chex <chex.rice@> wrote:
      > >>
      > >> > From: Chex <chex.rice@>
      > >> > Subject: [pfaf] Pecan Seeds
      > >> > To: pfaf@yahoogroups.com
      > >> > Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 6:01 PM
      > >> > Hi, I'm new to this group and my name
      > >> > is Chris.  I live in Illinois,
      > >> > USA.  I've been doing edible landscaping for about 10
      > >> > years now and
      > >> > I'm putting in about 1/2 acre on a friends land on an
      > >> > island on the
      > >> > Mississippi river in a few weeks.
      > >> >
      > >> > A friend of mine is nuts about native nuts.  He has
      > >> > some stratified
      > >> > pecan seeds from the northern most and shortest growing
      > >> > season of
      > >> > their native range, which is the Missisippi River Valley to
      > >> > northern
      > >> > Illinois.  Pecans are the number one native nut from
      > >> > North America.
      > >> > Most commercial pecans are grown in the South Eastern US
      > >> > and are most
      > >> > famous in Georgia where they were adapted to but are not
      > >> > native.
      > >> > Anyway the seeds that he has available are the most cold
      > >> > hardy and are
      > >> > from an area that sees -25 degrees F (-32 C) and will
      > >> > mature nuts in a
      > >> > 160 day growing season.  Most pecans need a far longer
      > >> > growing season
      > >> > so these seeds will become trees that can mature nuts where
      > >> > few pecan
      > >> > trees can.  By the way, the wild native pecans are
      > >> > slightly smaller
      > >> > (still a decent nut) and have what is often described as
      > >> > "more pecan
      > >> > flavor" than the commercial pecans you may have seen.
      > >> >
      > >> > Pecan trees (like many nut species) have male and female
      > >> > flowers both
      > >> > that flower at different times and some trees do male first
      > >> > then
      > >> > female and others do female first and then male you
      > >> > increase your
      > >> > chances of having compatable trees the more you have, 5
      > >> > trees giving
      > >> > you something like a 94% chance of pollination success.
      > >> >
      > >> > I am recommending getting ahold of Gary Fernald if you want
      > >> > some
      > >> > seeds.  His address is at the bottom of his message
      > >> > that I am passing
      > >> > along.
      > >> >
      > >> > Here are a few maps to show you where they are from and to
      > >> > help you
      > >> > decide if they will work in your area.
      > >> >
      > >> > US Department of Agriculture Hardiness Map:
      > >> > http://www.usna.usda.gov/Hardzone/ushzmap.html
      > >> > (Iowa and Illinois abreviated IA and IL where these seeds
      > >> > come from
      > >> > are zones 5a and 4b)
      > >> >
      > >> > Europe hardiness map for
      > >> > comparison:   http://www.gardenweb.com/zones/europe/
      > >> >
      > >> > USDA Pecan plant profile:Â
      > >> > http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=CAIL2
      > >> >
      > >> > I think that this plant would make a great addition to your
      > >> > edible
      > >> > landscape or forest garden.
      > >> >
      > >> > Chris
      > >> > zone 5a, IL
      > >> >
      > >> > ****************************************************
      > >> >
      > >> > Iowa Native PECAN Seed For Sale
      > >> >
      > >> > Gary Fernald - Nut Tree Evangelist -
      > >> >
      > >> > President Iowa Nut Growers Association
      > >> >
      > >> >
      > >> >
      > >> >      Pecans will grow and produce in
      > >> > the north, in fact, they are
      > >> > native all along the Mississippi River Valley to Dubuque,
      > >> > Iowa. The
      > >> > pecan strains “native to Iowa†means they already know
      > >> > what hardy is.
      > >> > As they say, it is in their genes. They have proven
      > >> > themselves capable
      > >> > of growing and producing even further north into Wisconsin
      > >> > and even
      > >> > parts of Canada.
      > >> >
      > >> >      I have a limited  supply of
      > >> > the pecan cultivar “Mullahy†which
      > >> > has proven to be the best sized and best cracking northern
      > >> > native
      > >> > pecan in our trials.  I located the “Mullahyâ€
      > >> > pecan on the Jim Mullahy
      > >> > Farm in 1976, after returning home from the Northern Nut
      > >> > Growers
      > >> > Association’s 67th Annual Meeting in Brownwood, TX.Â
      > >> > The USDA pecan
      > >> > breeders had inspired me to search out northern early
      > >> > ripening types
      > >> > for their breeding work. Graft wood cuttings were collected
      > >> > the next
      > >> > spring and seed nuts were planted and evaluated for the
      > >> > next few years
      > >> > until a bolt of lightning blew the original tree to
      > >> > smithereens. From
      > >> > those first Mullahy grafts other trees were propagated and
      > >> > are now
      > >> > producing crops across in Iowa, Illinois, Nebraska,
      > >> > Indiana, and
      > >> > south.
      > >> >
      > >> >      The interest and exploration for
      > >> > northern pecans spawned other
      > >> > activities and intrigued others. Canadian NNGA members got
      > >> > involved in
      > >> > exploring for the most northern natives. Over 100 pecans
      > >> > near
      > >> > Belleview, IA. were located and tagged as research
      > >> > trees.  In 1979, a
      > >> > group of NNGA members collected a good supply of seed from
      > >> > these
      > >> > remaining hardy stands of pecans for a seed distribution.
      > >> > The revenues
      > >> > generated help funded the first northern pecan research
      > >> > trial with 57
      > >> > grafted clones at the University of Nebraska.  In
      > >> > subsequent years, I
      > >> > have planted 5 separate preservation plantings (4
      > >> > non-gratis) on Corp
      > >> > of Engineers ground from Muscatine, IA. to Galena, IL. My
      > >> > goal was
      > >> > that these trees provide a publicly accessible in-situ
      > >> > orchard of
      > >> > native pecans as a seed resource for future plantings.
      > >> > These preserve
      > >> > plantings, mostly unmanaged, have been sorely tested by
      > >> > mother nature.
      > >> > They have survived the spring frosts, the cold winters,
      > >> > the drought
      > >> > years, and flooding (remember 93) as well as the continual
      > >> > threat of
      > >> > deer browsing.  Despite all the odds many of the trees
      > >> > are producing.
      > >> > GPS locations will be available in the future.
      > >> >
      > >> >      I thought in this year of 2009,
      > >> > which marks the 100th
      > >> > anniversary of the NNGA, (meeting information available at
      > >> > http://www.northernnutgrowers.org/), it would be
      > >> > appropriate to take
      > >> > another step toward the goal of breeding even better
      > >> > northern pecans.
      > >> > This Mullahy seed  offered is open pollinated from an
      > >> > orchard of the
      > >> > best early ripening commercial cultivars and should produce
      > >> > “someâ€
      > >> > even more exceptional progeny.  Forrest Keeling
      > >> > Nursery is growing
      > >> > some for me and I will offer these seedling trees this
      > >> > fall. Seed
      > >> > packets with planting instructions and larger quantities of
      > >> > stratified
      > >> > pecan seed are FOR SALE this spring.  I have made it a
      > >> > life’s work of
      > >> > love to find, select, preserve, and improve these northern
      > >> > early
      > >> > ripening pecans. This is truly an opportunity for you to
      > >> > have a part
      > >> > in breeding improved northern hardy pecans. The prospect of
      > >> > hitting
      > >> > the jackpot with a commercial super pecan for the north are
      > >> > real.
      > >> >
      > >> >
      > >> > garyfernald@Â
      > >> > or Gary Fernald, 416 East Broadway, Monmouth, ILL. 61462
      > >> >
      > >> >
      > >> > 20 seeds  @ $10.00 ppd
      > >> >
      > >> >
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