One other thing. In the short term (forgetting about end of old age
time for a mo). Differering from Wiesss' anaylsys of the USA
situation, in the UK context there is a possible issue of implosion
of sterling which would possible imply hyperinflation. (Note Weiss'
comments about a possible downgrade of the UK's credit rating, which
would imply more investors selling relativly unsafe sterling assets,
and/or increase in interest rates to keep investment here...see the
situation is rapidly and massivly spiraling out of control...as the
sociapathic war criminal Gorden Brown keeps pressing the double or
quits panic gamble button to try, just to prove to everyone that it
really did have capitalist system alachemy sussed, and that he really
did put an end to capitalist boom and bust cycles. He fails
Already some car manufacturers are raising prices due to increased
costs of imports of components from the Eurozone. What does this mean
for savings in sterling? Thats obvious. Bye bye! How to hedge/protect
against this possibilty (other than simply switching to euro or US $
account?) I'll get back to you on that one when I've sussed it
out..if anyone knows, I mean really knows and not some boy
bullshitting, please elucidate. And of course the broker you are
doing deals with or bank that is holding your stash must be safe.
Currently I'm using the Ecology building society on the basis that
they are mutual and also investments, assets in form of loans are in
sound assets that are currently holding value more than plastic perv
world. In fact a eco arcetect freind has more business recently than
ever before and is rushed off his feet. The Co-op bank has no
investment in Credit derivitives or even credit card debt!..there
does seem to be forming an alternative reality in eco/ethical world
from finance/banking to eco business etc. I persoanly do not have
Weiss' faith in the government system. The weak link in the UK
senario of ethical finance/business etc is implosion of sterling.
Maybe put have stash in $ account to hedge...then take a <toke>
forget about property and money and share. Was throwing around money
again last Saturday in Brighton club. I mean literally. Gotta get
some E and take a drive through Brighton with the bright yellow off
road series 110 landrover and throw wads of cash outta the window!
We are heading into a Zimbabwee situation in the UK at least..maybe.
Should have done this, should have done that. Should have joined the
euro. Should have executed Gorden Brown. Should have prayed to Jesus.
Should have taken LSD. (etc).
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Jim" <cromlech108@...> wrote:
> Sorry I mean lot 1 is best for food trees. Having read some more
> economics news tonight, I'm not sure about the £80000 price even!
> Current asking price is £140000. Yes for 16.5 acres. Sounds unreal
> anyone anywhere else in the world other than Ireland possibly. So
> have had a massive 'magic of the market' debt bubble funded real
> estate bubble here in the UK. Is it babylon vampire beast falling
> per end of old age time prophecy?..maybe. Take a look at this.
> Shouldn't really give you this. (its suppost to cost 50 quid a
> As you can see, a VERY serious economic depression, possible
> banking system collapse...which would imply I assume (Weiss doesn't
> go into this), a swift collapse of the money economic system of
> distribution of goods and services including food, which would
> serious public disorder/riots/food shortages etc...so food
> is going to a priority, especially non market production
> By the way everyone on this list in cool temperate zones should
> a look at David Jackes' incredible work. It takes temperate forest
> gardening to an entirely new level. Rips apart Robert Harts half
> baked semi mystic babble and practice...despite acknoledging Hart
> the pioneer of temperate forest garening. Bizarre really. I know
> trap that Hart fell into, because it, the magic, the 'alchemy'
> becomes real, the auspicious intellegence of nature manifests in
> work (regardless often of best empirical practice), auspicious
> magical manifestation of creation dream (there I go again!), rather
> than the world of dog eat dog evolution and win lose etc...the
> space. Jackes manages to combine it all somehow in a unique and
> deeply healing way..at the same time as making himself the target
> a possible fatwa by making a pronouncment about 'theocracy watch'.
> guess the boy don't know about the western money trick theocracy
> being a bit of a middle class type new ager I think its fair to say
> (like a lot of 'permies') - i.e. the ritual child abuse construct
> that is in the process of falling right now.
> Praise be to God.
> --- In email@example.com, "Jim" <cromlech108@> wrote:
> > http://www.charlesclark.co.uk/MountfieldLot1.html
> > This place is like something from mid Wales - cosmic in the for
> > Indian sense and also south facing. Lot 2 is the best I think for
> > growing food trees. In the current economic conditions I don't
> > its actually worth more than £80000. This land would really make
> > ideal place to do a design and planting layout based on David
> > system:
> > http://www.edibleforestgardens.com/
> > I don't have the full money myself to buy this area of land but
> > be quite interested in buying it with others. Either, say
> > up into plots, maybe 4, 5 or 6 lots, or maybe doing a collective
> > project. Or even we could do a collective project on most with
> > finacial shareholders having onto say 1/2 acre each of personal
> > to do stuff with.
> > On the other hand someone with the money reading this might,
> > seeing it (go on a sunny day to see the amazing south aspect)
> > want to go out and buy it themselves. A jinormous amount of food
> > could be grown on this land, which is currently grazed by a few
> > Lot 2 was under offer last time I spoke to the agents.
> > Jim