- Well, Martin,
With respect I must say that your approach (ostensibly meant to guide us
"back to PFAF") seems more likely to spark even more debate (which is not a
bad thing in my eyes - what's a forum for, anyway?); and since most of the
debate in this thread actually has been about plants and their uses, I can't
see the trouble with its content.
The fact that you see the debate as being about drugs only clears up YOUR
perspective on the issue.. For example, lots of people don't even think that
"drugs" is an appropriate term to use for something found in nature.
Our way of categorising things is a manifestation of our egotistical and
limited vision for their possible uses.
Taken as one example, Cannabis has a multitude of uses - it is possibly one
of the most useful plants on the face of the planet - and yet the stigma of
illegality and harmful effects (based largely on vengeful media hype
rather than proven scientific evidence) have nearly removed it from the
law-abiding public's grasp. I am not referring here to simply smoking (and
consumption as food) of marijuana, but also the use of the plant in all its
It must be said that only hemp seeds, as a product, require the female plant
to be grown to full maturity (the condition needed for marijuana to be
harvested), and all fibre-based products could be obtained with no
possibility at all of even producing any "drugs."
However, the illegal status of the whole plant in most of the world means
that a simple farmer producing rope, cloth or paper (or any number of other
products) can have his or her life ruined.
Even hemp seed production is not conducive to marijuana production since the
energy the plant devotes to growing the seeds tends to remove the potency
from the flowering tops.
The health benefits and versatility of hemp seeds and their oil is a matter
of public knowledge, as is the vast array of possible uses for the two
different types of fibre found in the plant stems.
Talking about Plants For A Future... Cannabis is one of those plants.
Posted by: "martin" martinwnaylor@... martinwnaylor
Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:52 pm (PST)
To get of this debate about drugs and back to pfaf
the fact is we are a carbon based structure anything that effects that
system is a drug
people have different views on drugs for example here in Australia it
is decriminalised in one state and one territory[out of 5 states and 2
territories so basically i could take one step and i am either a
criminal or not-go figure, i have heard in Holland you can buy it in
cafes but not sell it, in Spain you can grow your own and smoke in your
own place but not outside or sell it, in the US some states allow
A group that looks at psychedelics and there use is www.maps.org they
have done research at Harvard Uni in dosing up alcoholics to get them of
alcohol and much more
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