5383Re: [pfaf] Re: Composting
- Apr 1, 2011Lovely thoughts! I think we often forget that one of the most important
things we get from the plant world and Nature in general is spiritual
nurturance that I think goes hand in hand with the physical nurturance
which sustains life...
Life is a miracle, we see it every day in Nature.
fran k wrote:
> Thats good, I think lifes two outputs, pee and poo the only main
> replenishers of the soil, are very undervalued!and too much disliked.
> Ah. Now stones, there your talking. Some time ago I realised that
> without only water and life cells the earth would be as other planets
> a rocky moon type surface of dry rocks. And what we see around us, the
> whole abundance of all the nature in total is that surface but with
> the addition of water and life cells.
> The stone particles in the soil are the cup of the soil, theyre what
> holds the soil together, so if you took the stone particles out, all
> the rest would blow away on the wind, in a puff of dust. The word cup
> because it holds everything to do its job, as well as as you intimate
> the minerals are needed from it. I think I got the word cup from
> thinking of it like the mother is the cup that holds the milk for the
> child. So I see the stone as the mother, or motherer. Romantically, I
> think thats a part of why there are So many standing stones in uk,
> they didnt need to embellish them more than they were, because
> spiritually the stone alone is the top, as it is the mother, symbolic
> of the nurturer.
> I really find all of the simplicity this, of soil and life so amazing.
> The silt, stone, the manure replenishing it, the water, and us cells,
> as life. within the soil as bugs etc, more amazing still that all
> life, cells, plant animal fungi trees and the bugs, is either one
> single circle with a dot in the middle of it, a sole cell, or all the
> other life which is these same cells joined up.
> Apparently if you mix clay with sand it produces wonderful soil.
> Now, thats interesting what you said about larger stones leaching out
> there goodness, it does seem sense. Frank
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 13:55 BST madalyn warren wrote:
> >coming from a region where we have "2 rocks for every dirt" all rocks
> >smaller than my fist stay in the field. plus, i have a hunch there is a
> >slow mineral release from them. very slow.
> >just started snowing here in the the northwest catskills, madalyn
> >On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Gail Lloyd
> <gardenchick1949@... <mailto:gardenchick1949%40yahoo.com>>wrote:
> >> Well said :) We might add that the rocks break down into soil
> >> also.
> >> Gail
> >> ------------------------------
> >> *From:* fran k <frank_bowman@...
> >> *To:* firstname.lastname@example.org <mailto:pfaf%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> *Sent:* Sun, March 27, 2011 12:24:26 PM
> >> *Subject:* Re: [pfaf] Re: Composting
> >> Hi,
> >> A thing to bear in mind is that soil isnt made out of anything else but
> >> manure, or rather apart from that and gasses and water, whether you use
> >> plants or whatever, your compost breaks down to manure, through the
> >> worms etc that break it down. The last part of the process of
> >> is manure. Plants break down but they dont shit. they are broken
> down by
> >> bugs and worms, which do.
> >> As a result no matter what you do or what you compost, the only
> thing that
> >> results from that and produces the soil, at the basis of the
> goodness of all
> >> life on earth, and any that is currently living on a space station
> say, is
> >> total and utter, animal shite.
> >> IMHO
> >> Frank.
> >> --- On *Sat, 26/3/11, Tom Gibson <camaspermaculture@...
> <mailto:camaspermaculture%40gmail.com>>* wrote:
> >> From: Tom Gibson <camaspermaculture@...
> >> Subject: [pfaf] Re: Composting
> >> To: email@example.com <mailto:pfaf%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> Date: Saturday, 26 March, 2011, 17:15
> >> Manure does not cause high acidity. Quite the opposite-it will
> raise the
> >> pH of soils so should NEVER be used for acid loving plants like
> >> blueberries. Manure, if collected in piles, should be composted before
> >> being spread.
> >> In my opinion you cannot have a viable farm without integrating animals
> >> and all that they produce into the mix. For those that say it is cruel
> >> to keep animals I suggest they look into all of the ways that
> plants and
> >> fungus communicate with each other and tell me that eating or using
> >> is any less "cruel". Animals fill critical ecological niches providing
> >> such services as weed and pest control as well as many other things. We
> >> need to be as kind to all living creatures, including plants, as we
> >> should be to each other in order to achieve true peace and harmony.
> >> Tom
> >> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org <mailto:pfaf%40yahoogroups.com>, "Annie
> Sampson" <annie@...> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > High acidity is caused by animal manure, and using a concentration of
> >> this
> >> > obviously causes problems but unfortunately when you have read the
> >> copious
> >> > amount of research that is available re farmed animals you would not
> >> > contemplate utilising it ! Animal manure is simply not required .
> >> >
> >> > Eduvolve,
> >> >
> >> > Blessings Annie and family x
> >> >
> >> > _____
> >> >
> >> >
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