5310Re: [pfaf] re: fennel seeds and estragole
- Mar 11, 2011yes, so many people, usually thinking they are conservatives and following Biblicalprinciples of government and economics (due to lectures by people who don't readThe Bible that well and who learned from ditto or worse, liars), scream about BIGGOVERNMENT!But The Bible contains very pointed condemnations in the Prophets, some in theTorah and in the NT against the oppressive rich. And St. Paul in Romans saysthat the purpose of government is to punish evil and reward good.that is on the face of it, interventionist.After all, government is making the inconvenient laws. But this is because governmentis being run by big business, etc.And anything that interferes with this, any laws that would roll back and cap priceson medical goods and services or interfere with frankenfoods or other stuff, isdenounced as COMMUNISM! or at least SOCIALISM! and sometimes, FASCISM!But the problem is the corporations and the price gouging as normative, moneygrubbing "caring professions" and so forth.Mary Christine EriksonIn a message dated 3/11/2011 1:44:19 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, griselda1@... writes:I like this discussion. The international legal-capitalist framework dictates that investors and corporates can only make profits on patented (ie synthetic) substances. (Isolated or multivitamins are an example of this - worth millions and millions of dollars worldwide). Natural compounds not only offer the corporates no money but represent a real threat to their profits. So food and herbs are regarded by the pharmaceutical sector as 'bad' and as we know have been subject to extensive and global lobbying damage- the list of their targets is colossal and makes absolutely no sense from an ordinary person's point of view.
The traditional understanding of food as the source of our health is under vicious attack - food is now seen as a means of making profit, or more recently as a matter of security! Well, yes, but how far will this go? For hundreds or thousands of years it w as a matter of growing your food and medicine in your garden or local farm, then in the 20th c the criminal law came into it (when the EU banned traditional varieties of food plants) and maybe now it's edging towards barbed wire and searchlights. Agh, I'm sorry I went there.
At some point people need to question how all this has come about and fight for our 'common' or 'garden' herbs, fruits, vegetables, berries, etc. One practical way to start to get back to sanity would be to demand that supermarkets display the date on which any given product was picked. Also asking them to explain exactly what they mean by the word 'organic' on their labelling.
The wisdom, knowledge and expertise in groups like this will need to be spread - ie unpicking this confusing area re: natural/safe for instance.
It's a huge task to educate people but this group offers hope.
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On 11 Mar 2011, at 01:40, Bekki Shining Bearheart LMT <bekki@...> wrote:
Steve, I thank you for clarifying this-- I really have no wish to get
into a debate. But I feel compelled to respond. You are correct, I am
not saying all herbs are completely safe, or that there might not be
people who might have reactions even to herbs that are generally very safe.
I know people who are deathly allergic to sunflower seeds or soybeans, < /span>
which for years have been promoted as a health lots of
things out there that can kill us! if improperly used (like chain saws,
cars, and on and on...) It's about being responsible for ourselves.
What I find frustrating and frightening is that herbs-- which when used
properly have been healing humans for thousands of years--have been
demonized by pharmaceutical companies, who stand to make a lot of money
from prescription drugs, which, as you have said, can have many and
dangerous side effects. Again, it' about being responsible for
ourselves. Educating ourselves. Educating each other.
A lot of regulating is done in the name of protecting us against
ourselves, as if we can't make informed choices. Perhaps if we were
allowed to do that, the human race would evolve into an intelligent
Mar y Christine,
I have no argument with what you said based on your experience, but I
feel that perhaps you read more into Bekki's statement than she meant
to convey. She didn't actually say that she thought no herbs could
cause harm, only that "the powers that be wish to frighten us
regarding the safety of herbs." I believe that the two points can be
made independantly of each other.
Perhaps the best thing is to ask Bekki to clarify what she meant by it.
As far as the powerful actions of herbs is concerned I am fully on the
same page as you; herbs work, and we must treat them with the respect
deserved by any potent energy in nature.
It should be clear to any thinking person that no governing body can
rightfully regulate responsible individual use of nature's gifts. I
believe that even standardisation can be a step in the wrong
direction. If someone processes an herb and doesn't extract the active
constituents, it won't work; nobody will go to that person for
medicine and they will be forced to reevaluate their knowledge base.
Good medicine is immediately apparent to the sufferer, because they
find relief. So remedial/therapeutic medicinal quality is
The regulation I believe we are referring to later in the conversation
thread is Codex Alimentarius, which, as I understand it is to be a
sort of "white list" of allowed plants, materials and constituents;
this will, by its nature, criminalize all unlisted items. This cannot
be allowed to carry on, since it is based on human ego and an
artificial sense of the holistic balance of nature.
I fully support any and all non-violent action against this (or any
other) constrictive regulation of nature-based medicine.
/"All that is gold does not glitter,/
/Not all those who wander are lost;/
/The old that is strong does not wither,/
/Deep roots are not reached by the frost./
/From the ashes a fire shall be woken,/
/A light from the shadows shall spring;/
/Renewed shall be blade that was broken,/
/The crownless again shall be king."/
~ J.R.R. Tolkien
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