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  • Steve
    Jun 18 10:24 AM
      Hi Vital,

      Did you try germinating some of the seeds indoors? It might be helpful to
      have an artificially warm start early in the year. I just do mine right on
      the window ledge.

      I must mention that I didn't come up with the method of
      soaking/hydro-sprouting the gojis on the mesh. That was the folks at the
      Goji vineyard.. they even send a piece of mesh in the envelope with their

      I'll take a photo of it, so you can see what I mean..
      Ok, so I took four photos.
      In the first is the envelope I got from the Fountain of Youth Goji Vineyard
      (in Iowa) with diverse informational material (germination, planting
      instructions, etc), the packet of seeds on the right, and the fine mesh
      plastic screen.
      In the photos titled "Goji sprouter 1, 2 & 3" you see the little dish I
      use and the way that the screen becomes wet, but still remains floating. I
      just sprinkle 10 or 20 seeds on the saturated mesh and leave it, refilling
      the dish as the water evaporates.

      I have also heard of people planting straight into soil, but I tried the
      water method first and it worked, so I've stuck with it.

      One thing which should be said is that Goji seeds lose more of their
      viability the longer they have been out of the fruit. Therefore two
      advantages of just buying a bag of dried berries from the store are 1) the
      seeds are still contained in their fruits, and 2) you get probably more
      seeds than you could ever use in one plot - even after eating some
      The amount of seeds I got via mail were from about ten or twenty berries at
      the most (not more than a handful), whereas you'll get hundreds of berries
      in a bag for the same cost.

      Happy growing,



      On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Vital Scherrer <vital233@...>wrote:

      > Hello Steve,
      > Many thanks for these informations.
      > Your germination method sounds innovative. Did you also try to germinate
      > them in soil directly? Do you think that they might need to be surface sown,
      > so they get some light for their germination?
      > Anyway, I'll try again - could be that the temperatures here were too low
      > in February/March (somewhere between 50ºF and 60ºF) - I may give your method
      > a try as well.
      > Best wishes
      > Vital
      > *PERMACULTURE **
      > living in consensual communion with a resilient nature
      > ------------------------------
      > Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:21:51 -0300
      > Subject: Re: Lycium barbarum
      > From: permalove@...
      > To: vital233@...
      > Hello Vital,
      > I do indeed grow my Goji plants from seed..
      > I have one surviving second-year youngster I grew from seed that I got
      > through "The Fountain of Youth Goji Vineyard"
      > their address is:
      > 2478 State Hwy. 92
      > Winterset, Iowa 50273
      > USA
      > tel. (515) 462 - 2352
      > gojiseed@...
      > www.fountainofyouth-gojiseed.com
      > Check out the plants on this page of their site.
      > http://www.fountainofyouth-gojiseed.com/GojiPlants.html
      > I have also grown (this year) several plants from seed scraped from fruits
      > I get in very expensive little bags at the grocery store. The largest of
      > that batch is about 3 months old and six inches high. I don't push the
      > fertilizer, just organic residues and natural derivatives, so they're slow
      > and steady. The slugs LOVE my gojis here, so I don't actually want
      > luxuriant growth.
      > With both sources, I start the seed on a little piece of very fine art mesh
      > suspended on a cup of water (my mesh floats, but if yours sinks, you'll need
      > to keep it at the surface somehow - perhaps use a container with a smaller
      > diameter than the widest parts of the mesh and keep the cup filled.
      > Basically it's like sprouting. At any rate, they all pretty much go at the
      > same time, with a few stragglers.
      > The rootlets grow down into the water throught the mesh, and when the
      > seedlings are one to two inches above the mesh, I gently pull them out and
      > transplant them into soil. Keep the soil moist at first, and then gradually
      > back off when the seedlings really catch.
      > Ok, my son's awake, so must go.. (photos later)
      > Peace,
      > Steve.
      > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 1:54 PM, v.scherrer <vital233@...> wrote:
      > Olá Steve,
      > I just wanted to ask how your Lyciums are doing.
      > BTW I tried to grow them several times from seed of two different origins
      > without any success. Did you grow them from seed? If so, can you give me any
      > advice for their germination?
      > Cheerios
      > Vital
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