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3559Re: Planning edible/ornamental garden in N Spain

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  • Jim
    Jan 7, 2009
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      ...also courgettes:

      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pfaf/photos/album/1174064837/pic/1596540
      75/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc

      ..that is a round variety.


      --- In pfaf@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <cromlech108@...> wrote:
      >
      > Hi Robert etc.
      >
      > I'm a fan of squashes and pumpkins. I think they look good, produce
      > fantastic food also and are quite easy to grow outside in southern
      UK
      > so should be even better where you are. They like a good soil, try
      > and keep green growth contained somewhat if you want fruits. You
      can
      > grow them up framworks, if you have just one variety that is true
      > breeding you can save the seed...don't bother saving seed from
      cross
      > fertilised fruits, it usually turns out to be worthless. Try local
      > supplier or the Organic Gardening Catalogue has plenty of varieties:
      >
      > http://www.organiccatalog.com/catalog/
      >
      > Cucumbers are good also. I grow in a cold greenhouse, but with the
      > warmer summers there outdoor varieties will do well I should think.
      >
      > In terms of pereninal fruiting climbers, thats something I'm just
      > getting into myself. Perhaps Passiflora?
      >
      > Thornless loganberry is very very lush and can be grown on a
      bramble
      > frame:
      >
      >
      http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pfaf/photos/album/1174064837/pic/1948036
      > 936/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&count=20&dir=asc
      >
      > (That bramble is Tayberry I think)
      >
      > Thanks,
      >
      > Jim.
      >
      >
      >
      > --- In pfaf@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Alcock" <ralcock@> wrote:
      > >
      > > Hi group,
      > >
      > > I need your advice. I'm planning the edible/ornamental garden
      around
      > > our cabin. We are in Northern Spain, with a maritime climate
      that's
      > > pretty similar to southern Britain but about 3 degrees warmer.
      > Things
      > > that grow well there will probably grow better here. The area
      where
      > > the garden is gets full sun for most of the day. The soil is heavy
      > > clay, but I'll try to make sure the garden has plenty of organic
      > matter.
      > >
      > > I want plants that will take and stay there without having to be
      > > planted again every year. I want the garden to produce a
      significant
      > > quantity of tasty food for us with minimum effort (weeding and
      > > harvesting, basically). I'd also like it to be ornamental, with
      some
      > > attractively coloured plants and flowers in there. So I'm looking
      > for
      > > perennial or self-seeding annual herbs, shrubs and vines, which
      > fulfil
      > > these criteria.
      > >
      > > My partner has put in a specific request for a vine with showy
      > flowers
      > > like bougainvillea, but I'd like it to be one that's also edible!
      > >
      > > Because I'm not a very experienced gardener, I don't get much from
      > > just reading a seed catalogue - even specialised ones like ART.
      I'd
      > > like to ask members of the group to recommend some plants that
      they
      > > grow and would suggest for use in a garden like this. Also, some
      > > places to obtain the plants (in the EU, preferably).
      > >
      > > Here's a partial list of what we've already got growing there:
      > >
      > > Grape trained on pergola (2 vars)
      > > Goji
      > > Nasturtium
      > > Marigold
      > > Rosemary
      > > Thyme
      > > Stevia
      > > Parsley
      > > Coriander
      > > Mint (2 vars)
      > > Kiwi (m+f)
      > >
      > > Your suggestions are much appreciated!
      > >
      > > Robert
      > >
      > > PS. To see some photos of the cabin and the land, visit
      > > www.abrazohouse.org/gallery2
      > >
      >
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