2792Re: The American Grey Squirrel in Europe
- Jul 10, 2008...go on and totally ignore the nut growers and foresters grey
squirrel urls then wont you, animal rights loony.
You have your agenda Ingrid, and you're gonna stick to it regardless
of any actual facts and imperical evidence put in front of you -
you're a fundimentalist!
I.e end of any real debate, time to wheel out the standard AR
references, and keep hammering them home untill you browbeat any
opposition into submission.
I started talking to a woman who looked mad or homeless in Paddock
Wood, Kent. She told me to warn people that there are people going
around at the dead of night capturing cats for use in 'testing'. I
pointed out to her that this was possible, but unlikely because
vivisectors require a standardised product - a uniform and disease
free product, and cats picked up off the street will not fit this
requirement. The AR fundimentalist responded with: "I HATE people tht
kill animals". End of debate. She must obviously therefore, be
correct. (about cat-napping). She had a trolley thing with a furry
object inside - either a live or stuffed cat I think.
No man, thats wrong, 'dids' have been going round stealing cats for
testing maaaaannnnn, and also stealing babies for use in masonic
ritual abuse 'alchemy'.
--- In email@example.com, ingrid glass <ingrid_glass@...> wrote:
> Dear 'manofpeace',
> If you'd followed the link I gave in my previous response to this
issue, posted on June 14th, you wouldn't be making these statements
> I quote from my post :
> "An alternative view :
> Unfortunately the petition has now closed.
> Red squirrels had been in serious decline well before the
introduction of greys to the UK, mainly because of habitat removal
(coniferous forest) and red squirrel culls - note that greys prefer
deciduous broad-leaved woodland. Also, the squirrelpox virus was here
BEFORE the greys were!!! They do not kill large no.s of baby birds
unless there is a food shortage. Deer stripping tree bark is a
greater problem than the damage greys do. There are many
disputable 'facts' in the articles you have posted - see my link
> Humans wreak FAR MORE havoc (I assume you mean havoc rather than
habit???!!) on habitat, but we are always quick to point the finger
(and the gun) at some scapegoat or other, rather than ourselves.
> Fair enough if you are a meat eater - better to go out & kill a
few squirrels 'humanely' yourself for food, than buy from a shop and
not know what conditions/life the animal 'endured' before
becoming 'dead meat' for human consumption. (Oh, and conveniently let
someone else do the slaughtering for you). But there are other
control methods available if there really is such a problem with bark
stripping etc. e.g. catching & mass contraceptive programme for the
females. Surely it's best to exhaust these possibilities before
resorting to killing? Except culling is relatively quick & cheap I
guess....I think that's what it boils down in the end, like most
things these days.
> If you really are a 'man of peace', shouldn't you approach a
problem with peaceful solutions first?
> Anyway, as I repeat again, this is a forum for discussing plant-
use matters and so I'm not sure it's the place to discuss
controversial issues around squirrel control (or not!) except where
it specifically relates to fruit/nut tree health.
> Please read follow-up posts before repeating ill-founded
statements as fact!!!
> Peace to you! 8^)
> To: firstname.lastname@example.org
> From: manofpeace32@...
> Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:00:18 +0000
> Subject: [pfaf] Re: The American Grey Squirrel in Europe
> I know some people might not like it,
> but if it's reaking habit on the habitat,
> competting for food with the natives,
> or introducing disease's
> then I believe it's probaly better for the enviroment.
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