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  • aqueous_designs
    I m interested in creating a forum from scratch. Is the use of PERL an effective/intelligent language to do this? Perhaps I should look into PHP or something
    Message 1 of 11 , Dec 3, 2003
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      I'm interested in creating a forum from scratch. Is the use of PERL
      an effective/intelligent language to do this? Perhaps I should look
      into PHP or something of the like. Just looking for
      comments/suggestions.

      Thanks
    • merlyn@stonehenge.com
      ... aqueous I m interested in creating a forum from scratch. As in, creating a new web-discussion area, or creating the software to create such an area?
      Message 2 of 11 , Dec 3, 2003
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        >>>>> "aqueous" == aqueous designs <aqueous_designs@...> writes:

        aqueous> I'm interested in creating a forum from scratch.

        As in, creating a new web-discussion area, or creating the software
        to create such an area?

        aqueous> Is the use of PERL
        aqueous> an effective/intelligent language to do this?

        Yes on both counts. :)

        aqueous> Perhaps I should look
        aqueous> into PHP or something of the like.

        Well, PHP will "top out" sooner, but might be easier to learn if
        you're starting from learning the language as well as the application.

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      • Erik Tank
        I would whole heartily recommend PERL and nothing else :-) ... What did you expect from some readying a PERL forum :-). But seriously ... I prefer PERL for any
        Message 3 of 11 , Dec 3, 2003
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          I would whole heartily recommend PERL and nothing else :-) ... What did
          you expect from some readying a PERL forum :-).

          But seriously ... I prefer PERL for any project that involves string
          parsing. Combined with CPAN (search.cpan.org) PERL is a very flexible
          and powerful language which has a lot of prewritten code that does most
          of the heavy lifting for you.

          aqueous_designs wrote:

          > I'm interested in creating a forum from scratch. Is the use of PERL
          > an effective/intelligent language to do this? Perhaps I should look
          > into PHP or something of the like. Just looking for
          > comments/suggestions.
          >
          > Thanks
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        • aqueous_designs
          ... As in a new web-discussion area. I want to implement it on my company s website for users of our product to exchange ideas of its use. My background in
          Message 4 of 11 , Dec 3, 2003
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            > As in, creating a new web-discussion area, or creating the software
            > to create such an area?

            As in a new web-discussion area. I want to implement it on my
            company's website for users of our product to exchange ideas of its
            use.

            My background in PERL would be considered experienced beginner. I've
            made my way through the 21 days book and learn perl by Deitel &
            deitel.

            I saw something in the latter book using the combination of PERL and
            XML.
          • Damien Carbery
            ... You could of course go looking for an existing open source forum to simply set up on your company site. There is no need to reinvent the wheel (didn t
            Message 5 of 11 , Dec 4, 2003
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              --- In perl-beginner@yahoogroups.com, "aqueous_designs"
              <aqueous_designs@y...> wrote:
              > I'm interested in creating a forum from scratch. Is the use of PERL
              > an effective/intelligent language to do this? Perhaps I should look
              > into PHP or something of the like. Just looking for
              > comments/suggestions.
              >
              > Thanks

              You could of course go looking for an existing open source forum to
              simply set up on your company site. There is no need to reinvent the
              wheel (didn't Larry Wall mention 'good programmer' and 'lazy' in the
              same sentence once?).

              Of course, like someone else doing your homework for you, you learn
              nothing by doing this (but you do save yourself a ton of time and stress).
              What route depends on your motivation.
            • gordon Stewart
              ... Yep - im designing something similar to Yahoogroups - Online & via email - All from Perl. (with a little help from this group)... Its pretty good - a few
              Message 6 of 11 , Dec 4, 2003
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                >From: "aqueous_designs" <aqueous_designs@...>
                >Reply-To: perl-beginner@yahoogroups.com
                >To: perl-beginner@yahoogroups.com
                >Subject: [PBML] creating a forum
                >Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:29:09 -0000
                >
                >I'm interested in creating a forum from scratch. Is the use of PERL
                >an effective/intelligent language to do this? Perhaps I should look
                >into PHP or something of the like. Just looking for
                >comments/suggestions.
                >
                >Thanks

                Yep - im designing something similar to Yahoogroups - Online & via email -
                All from Perl.
                (with a little help from this group)...

                Its pretty good - a 'few' bugs left to iron out (although its 'working' -
                The code - What it does, & why - needs to be fixed in a 'few' places')

                So anythings possible - If you want to...

                G

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              • Odhiambo Washington
                ... Hope you will publicise the code when it s finally completed. -Wash http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html --
                Message 7 of 11 , Dec 4, 2003
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                  * gordon Stewart <gordonstewart5@...> [20031204 14:18]: wrote:
                  > >From: "aqueous_designs" <aqueous_designs@...>
                  > >Reply-To: perl-beginner@yahoogroups.com
                  > >To: perl-beginner@yahoogroups.com
                  > >Subject: [PBML] creating a forum
                  > >Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:29:09 -0000
                  > >
                  > >I'm interested in creating a forum from scratch. Is the use of PERL
                  > >an effective/intelligent language to do this? Perhaps I should look
                  > >into PHP or something of the like. Just looking for
                  > >comments/suggestions.
                  > >
                  > >Thanks
                  >
                  > Yep - im designing something similar to Yahoogroups - Online & via email -
                  > All from Perl.
                  > (with a little help from this group)...
                  >
                  > Its pretty good - a 'few' bugs left to iron out (although its 'working' -
                  > The code - What it does, & why - needs to be fixed in a 'few' places')
                  >
                  > So anythings possible - If you want to...


                  Hope you will publicise the code when it's finally completed.



                  -Wash

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                • gordon Stewart
                  ... I might - Or I might find someone willing to compete with Yahoo - & buy it off me :) (See below - I might expand / compete with Yahoo - but i need a bigger
                  Message 8 of 11 , Dec 4, 2003
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                    >From: Odhiambo Washington <wash@...>
                    >Reply-To: perl-beginner@yahoogroups.com
                    >To: perl-beginner@yahoogroups.com
                    >Subject: Re: [PBML] creating a forum
                    >Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:03:37 +0300
                    >
                    >* gordon Stewart <gordonstewart5@...> [20031204 14:18]: wrote:
                    > > Yep - im designing something similar to Yahoogroups - Online & via email
                    >-
                    > > All from Perl.
                    > > (with a little help from this group)...
                    > >
                    > > Its pretty good - a 'few' bugs left to iron out (although its 'working'
                    >-
                    > > The code - What it does, & why - needs to be fixed in a 'few' places')
                    > >
                    > > So anythings possible - If you want to...
                    >
                    >
                    >Hope you will publicise the code when it's finally completed.
                    >

                    I might - Or I might find someone willing to compete with Yahoo - & buy it
                    off me :)

                    (See below - I might expand / compete with Yahoo - but i need a bigger email
                    limit account :) )

                    LOL

                    Anyway - the website (online) section, is 204KB - in 44 files - Data /
                    Modules & one CGI file..

                    (designing it in modular form is WAY easy :) )

                    The email side of things :-

                    1 CGI script & 33 data/module files.. - 189 KB

                    (of course - online - the live database - Contains more subdirectories &
                    bigger files etc - )
                    I do my testing online - So the data-files are a bit small (on my pc) )

                    The BIGGEST prob I have now :- Is Im off to USA for 2-3 months - YAY!
                    (dec-feb)
                    - So I wont be online as much - Development will stop / slow down ..

                    Its currently "working" - With a few nifty extras that Yahoo hasnt got -
                    although its far from "professional" - a "few" bugs...


                    Also - I'll need to find a bigger email host (all I need is ONE pop access -
                    account, that I can allocate a domain name to..- & big email limits )

                    10 messages to 100 people in a group - dont go far with a 1000 message limit
                    :)

                    Ok - Im off to bed - Tomorow LOTS of cleaning to do:) (17 more sleeps & im
                    off :) )

                    G.

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                  • Odhiambo Washington
                    ... Thanks for replying. I was very interested in testing/running that app. If you let me, I will not let anyone get it at all, since I see you have a big goal
                    Message 9 of 11 , Dec 4, 2003
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                      * gordon Stewart <gordonstewart5@...> [20031204 16:44]: wrote:
                      > >From: Odhiambo Washington <wash@...>
                      > >Reply-To: perl-beginner@yahoogroups.com
                      > >To: perl-beginner@yahoogroups.com
                      > >Subject: Re: [PBML] creating a forum
                      > >Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:03:37 +0300
                      > >
                      > >* gordon Stewart <gordonstewart5@...> [20031204 14:18]: wrote:
                      > > > Yep - im designing something similar to Yahoogroups - Online & via email
                      > >-
                      > > > All from Perl.
                      > > > (with a little help from this group)...
                      > > >
                      > > > Its pretty good - a 'few' bugs left to iron out (although its 'working'
                      > >-
                      > > > The code - What it does, & why - needs to be fixed in a 'few' places')
                      > > >
                      > > > So anythings possible - If you want to...
                      > >
                      > >
                      > >Hope you will publicise the code when it's finally completed.
                      > >
                      >
                      > I might - Or I might find someone willing to compete with Yahoo - & buy it
                      > off me :)
                      >
                      > (See below - I might expand / compete with Yahoo - but i need a bigger email
                      > limit account :) )
                      >
                      > LOL
                      >
                      > Anyway - the website (online) section, is 204KB - in 44 files - Data /
                      > Modules & one CGI file..
                      >
                      > (designing it in modular form is WAY easy :) )
                      >
                      > The email side of things :-
                      >
                      > 1 CGI script & 33 data/module files.. - 189 KB
                      >
                      > (of course - online - the live database - Contains more subdirectories &
                      > bigger files etc - )
                      > I do my testing online - So the data-files are a bit small (on my pc) )
                      >
                      > The BIGGEST prob I have now :- Is Im off to USA for 2-3 months - YAY!
                      > (dec-feb)
                      > - So I wont be online as much - Development will stop / slow down ..
                      >
                      > Its currently "working" - With a few nifty extras that Yahoo hasnt got -
                      > although its far from "professional" - a "few" bugs...
                      >
                      >
                      > Also - I'll need to find a bigger email host (all I need is ONE pop access -
                      > account, that I can allocate a domain name to..- & big email limits )
                      >
                      > 10 messages to 100 people in a group - dont go far with a 1000 message limit
                      > :)
                      >
                      > Ok - Im off to bed - Tomorow LOTS of cleaning to do:) (17 more sleeps & im
                      > off :) )
                      >
                      > G.


                      Thanks for replying. I was very interested in testing/running that app.
                      If you let me, I will not let anyone get it at all, since I see you have
                      a big goal with it and hope to earn from it.

                      Thank you very much.


                      -Wash

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                    • Charles K. Clarkson
                      ... What operating system are you using at the company? ... I would suggest using something off the shelf. Look in one of the script forums or soruceforge.
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                        aqueous_designs <aqueous_designs@...> wrote:
                        :
                        : As in a new web-discussion area. I want to implement
                        : it on my company's website for users of our product
                        : to exchange ideas of its use.

                        What operating system are you using at the company?


                        : My background in PERL would be considered experienced
                        : beginner. I've made my way through the 21 days book
                        : and learn perl by Deitel & deitel.

                        I would suggest using something off the shelf. Look
                        in one of the script forums or soruceforge. Check the
                        code. Look for the use of strict, warnings, and taint
                        checking. Check for an active support forum. See if
                        their is an API.


                        : I saw something in the latter book using the
                        : combination of PERL and XML.

                        This would be the nicest way to go. Perl to generate
                        the XML and CSS and XSLT to generate the page. I suggest
                        a database to hold the content. You'll want to learn a
                        little SQL when you start to customize.


                        HTH,

                        Charles K. Clarkson
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                        Clarkson Energy Homes, Inc.
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                      • John S Brigham
                        If you are looking to put together a web based tool for discussing complex issues look into a wiki engine. The wiki is a page or series of pages which can be
                        Message 11 of 11 , Dec 5, 2003
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                          If you are looking to put together a web based tool for discussing
                          complex issues look into a wiki engine. The wiki is a page or series of
                          pages which can be edited by visitors. This is like a meeting in slow
                          motion. And no donuts!

                          The ideas could be put out in documents in a web site or network server.
                          Participants could read, comment and make changes over a period of time.

                          This is all open source. Many of the engines are based on Perl/MySQL.
                          You would be downloading a module.

                          look at http://en.wikipedia.org/

                          lol
                          John in Denver


                          On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 15:29:09 -0000 "aqueous_designs"
                          <aqueous_designs@...> writes:
                          > I'm interested in creating a forum from scratch. Is the use of PERL
                          > an effective/intelligent language to do this? Perhaps I should look
                          >
                          > into PHP or something of the like. Just looking for
                          > comments/suggestions.
                          >
                          > Thanks
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