RE: [penturners] Ryan's offer
- firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
>> ... but if 300 people answer that they would be willing to donate 10Ah, I see - I was under the impression that someone would be collecting and
>> well now we know we have the support and can start working on
> Ryan, first of all thank you for your generous offer. That is a
> really nice thing to do.
> The problem that I see with the poll is that I (or anyone else here)
> could sincerely say I'd be willing to make 10 or even 20 pens, but I
> couldn't say whether or not I could sell those pens. And if I can't
> sell them, then they are not a donation.
> If the poll asked how many people think they could SELL 5 pens, or 10
> pens, that would be more meaningful. This is not like the Freedom Pen
> project where you can make a 100 pens and know that every one of them
> will be needed and accepted. In this case, the pens have to be sold
> before they are actually a donation. So I don't see how anyone can
> commit to saying they will donate a certain number of pens unless
> they know or believe they can somehow sell those pens.
> I certainly don't mean to discourage the effort in any way, but I
> would not feel right about accepting free pens kits from you unless I
> knew I had a way to sell the pens I made from them (and donate the
selling the pens from the group. I could make 5 pens and donate *them*, but
I don't know that I could *sell* them. While I have sold a few to
co-workers and acquaintances, that's not what I do full-time, and it would
probably take a few months. But I'd be happy to send my pens to someone who
*would* be able to sell them.
- --- In email@example.com, <gordon@h...> wrote:
> okSir, with all due respect, many here are doing things to help. And we
> WHO DO WE HAVE THAT WILL HEIP IN THIS PROJET
will continue to do things to help. Just because I haven't jumped on
your bandwagon, doesn't mean I'm not doing anything.
> Maybe I am all wrongYes, you are, especially when you level personal attacks on group
>Then I would suggest you stop talking and start doing.
> But we sit here doing nothing and I can't stand doing nothing