On 6/25/07, Richard Klinda <ignotus@...
> Dear Peditors!
> This is a slightly off topic post, but I would like to hear other
> peditors' opinions about this matter.
Can't answer all of your questions, but...
> I looked at the Palm site and I think I am going to buy a Palm T|X, but
> I have to know whether what I want to do with it is feasible:
Had the TX been available when my TE was dying and I was looking for a
replacement, it's what I would probably have gotten. As it was, I got
a Tapwave Zodiac 2 on eBay, and have been delighted. (Tapwave went
belly up in July 2005, and the device is an orphan, but I don't care.
I have three of them, including a "spare parts" unit, and the
third-party outfit that was Tapwave's authorized service center still
exists and provides repair services.
Tapwave was trying to create a device that was a hand-held gaming
device as well as a Palm PDA, so it has some unusual features.
320x480 screen with collapsing DIA, 200mhz CPU, ATI W4200 video chip
with on-chip video RAM, Yamaha stereo sound, Bluetooth, 128MB RAM,
*two* SD card slots, PalmOS 5.26...I love mine with a passion.)
> What I need it for:
> - agenda, tasks, memos (standard PalmOS software, I think those
> haven't changed much);
They have changed, but my OS5 device still uses the "old style", so I
can't quote details. (Like Address Book became Contacts, with
additional information included).
> - some other 3rd party software (I have to check whether they have
> T|X ready versions or not);
The big bugger factor in the TX and other new models from Palm is the
use of NVFS. The idea is laudable: use a form of non-volatile memory,
so if the user lets the battery totally drain, they don't lose
everything. The implementation has quirks that can bite you.
> And some hacks, most important to me are:
> - MegaWiki like linker / launcher program (MegaWiki is os4 only);
Megawiki itself won't run. There are a couple of other freeware wiki
apps for OS5 that do, though they won't match Megawiki in features, as
well as a few commercial entries using the Wiki approach.
You might look at PalmWiki: http://pitecan.com/PalmWiki/index_e.html
combined with Qpocket: http://pitecan.com/QPocket/Palm/index_e.html
or WikiZ: http://geni.ath.cx/wikiz.html
or PsLink: http://www.jove21.com/palm/palmware/pslink/?ex-lang=en
> - EasyLaunch-level customisation of taps / strokes;
There's a shareware OS5 Easy Launch version that reportedly offers the
same features. (I don't use it.)
> - something like LauncherX for launching programs;
LauncherX runs fine on the TX. Recent versions include fixes for NVFS
support on devices that have it. For detailed info on dealing with
LauncherX on the TX, visit http://www.launcherxplanet.com
> Okay that above is pretty standard stuff and I am quite sure, that OS5
> can deliver in those aspects. OTOH there are some things that I haven't
> done before with Palms and would like to do with my possible new unit,
> my question is, are these possible without pain?
Don't do GPS, so can't speak about it.
> - I would like to do larger scale editing, so I will purchase a
> pedit, laptophack and a keyboard, are they go well together? Is
> the keyboard customiseable (I use dvorak keyboard layout), do pedit
> / laptophack / ptoolset support the Palm T|X?
Depends upon the keyboard. Palm offers a branded Universal Wireless
Keyboard, apparently OEMed from Think Outside, and Think Ouside also
offers one. The Think Outside version appears to be more
customizable, though I don't know about Dvorak layout.
I believe Targus and Belkin also offer keyboards that will work, but
I'd have to Look Stuff Up to be sure.
I got the Palm branded model, mostly because it supported a separate
number row on the keypad. The Think Outside version achieves a
smaller size by eliminating the number row and overloading QWERTY keys
- you enter a number by pressing a function key and the QWERTY key
that is also that number. If you use spreadsheets a lot, that might
be a deal breaker.
I use a keyboard primarily for WordSmith and Spreadsheets to go,
though Pedit offers good keyboard support.
Laptophack is OS3.5/OS4 specific. pEdit/pToolset should be fine.
(Paul has a TX.)
> - after reading some forums I know, that browsing the web and reading
> email is not very well supported, what is the state now?
Mediocre. Available browsers leave a bit to be desired.
The TX comes with a version of Palm's Blazer app.
My device came with Tapwave Web, based on a version of the Palmsource
v2 product. I also looked at Opera Mini, Novarra nWeb, Mobirus Xiino,
a version of Access Netfront ripped from a Clie, and a couple of
others. What I use is Novarra nWeb, because it has a Tapwave version.
seems non-existent. Extant browsers work best with mobile-friendly
Opera Mini is a Java applet, and requires a current IBM JVM for PalmOS
devices. (You can get that from Palm.) Because it's cross platform,
it doesn't follow the standard Palm UI guidlines, and is rather
sluggish on my 200mhz device.
What I'd *like* is a port of Mozilla's Minimo to Palm devices, but
unless/until Palm offers an OS version on PDAs based on an embedded
Linux kernel, I don't expect to see it.
The best email solution seems to be SnapperMail.
> - is there a good / usable SSH program?
Good? Hard to say. Usable? The only one I was able to get working
was pssh, and I was able to successfully connect via WiFi to a Unix
server at the office with it. It warns you up front it's beta code
and should not be considered secure, but runs pretty well.
There are also usable versions of ftp, VNC and Samba for the Palm.
(There's an open source Samba client I can't find now.)
> - and one last question to those who have been using palms for years:
> does OS5 generally in your opinion has the same level of
> "powerfulness" and customisability (by using hacks, 3rd party
> programs or whatever) that OS4 had?
Depends on what you were doing.
The big issue is that OS5 removed the facility hacks used to run.
Instead, it substitutes "Notification applications", which can receive
and act upon messages sent by the Notification Manager. Teal Point
software has a version of their hack manager for OS/5 that can run
*some* old hacks, by converting the functions the hack uses to
Notifications. Unfortunately, not all of the functions used by hacks
*have* equivalent notifications. Teal Point has a table on their site
specifying which hacks work. Megawiki isn't one of them.
Teal Launcher: http://www.tealpoint.com/softlnch.htm
A Russian programmer named Igor Nesterov discovered you *could* write
OS5 hacks as native ARM code, and run them via an undocumented
interface. He created a version of his Yet Another Hack Manager for
OS5, and some hacks that can run under it exist. I use an OS5 version
of Fonthack under it to provide better font support. It allows be to
replace the standard Palm fonts with custom versions on an app by app
Desk accessories still work, though your choices in DA launcher are a
bit more limited. I have two here:
Yamada (Hacker Dude-San) Tetsushi's DA Launcher 5 5.1b4 (freeware)
and Mike McCollister's OS5 verson of his McPhling hack (GPLed open
which is a popup Palm Favorites list that can launch DAs as well as
> Thanks, have a nice day, Richard