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Test Request on KNOWNSPELLSFROMSPECIALTY

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  • thpr
    It appears to me that KNOWNSPELLSFROMSPECIALTY is rather unused in the code, and the actual case is that the system is hardcoded to a +1 in spells from
    Message 1 of 5 , Nov 4, 2006
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      It appears to me that KNOWNSPELLSFROMSPECIALTY is rather unused in the
      code, and the actual case is that the system is hardcoded to a +1 in
      spells from specialties.

      Can someone else take a look at this, put in some rediculous number,
      and test what is possible? I can see that in the "Cast Per Day" table
      created at the bottom of the spell tab it is only putting +1 there for
      specialist wizards, but is there a specialist in another class
      (something psionic perhaps?) where the KNOWNSPELLSFROMSPECIALTY tag
      will have more of an effect than showing up in that table (perhaps it
      will alter what can be chosen, memorized, etc.?) in order to
      demonstrate the problem?

      Thanks.
    • David M. Bebber
      ... Nothing psionic uses this mechanic, I ll try to explain: The way Specialty powers are used is that, for example, Telepathy Discipline powers are not
      Message 2 of 5 , Nov 5, 2006
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        On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:14:06 -0600, thpr <thpr@...> wrote:

        >
        > It appears to me that KNOWNSPELLSFROMSPECIALTY is rather unused in the
        > code, and the actual case is that the system is hardcoded to a +1 in
        > spells from specialties.
        >
        > Can someone else take a look at this, put in some rediculous number,
        > and test what is possible? I can see that in the "Cast Per Day" table
        > created at the bottom of the spell tab it is only putting +1 there for
        > specialist wizards, but is there a specialist in another class
        > (something psionic perhaps?) where the KNOWNSPELLSFROMSPECIALTY tag
        > will have more of an effect than showing up in that table (perhaps it
        > will alter what can be chosen, memorized, etc.?) in order to
        > demonstrate the problem?

        Nothing psionic uses this mechanic, I'll try to explain:
        The way "Specialty" powers are used is that, for example, Telepathy
        Discipline powers are not accessible to any other discipline of psion. In
        order to aquire the discipline power the psion uses one of his normal
        powers known the learn it. this same approach is taken with all the psion
        classes I have seen, including ones from Complete Psionic and Untapped
        Potential (by Dreamscarred Press)


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      • thpr
        ... psion. In ... psion ... Appreciate that... I have seen some of the code for how psionics are detected in a character, but haven t spent time on that yet.
        Message 3 of 5 , Nov 5, 2006
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          --- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, "David M. Bebber" <bebberd@...> wrote:
          >
          > Nothing psionic uses this mechanic, I'll try to explain:
          > The way "Specialty" powers are used is that, for example, Telepathy
          > Discipline powers are not accessible to any other discipline of
          psion. In
          > order to aquire the discipline power the psion uses one of his normal
          > powers known the learn it. this same approach is taken with all the
          psion
          > classes I have seen, including ones from Complete Psionic and Untapped
          > Potential (by Dreamscarred Press)

          Appreciate that... I have seen some of the code for how psionics are
          detected in a character, but haven't spent time on that yet.

          Still doesn't solve my problem, however, of figuring out whether
          KNOWNSPELLSFROMSPECIALTY is working correctly...
        • Tir Gwaith
          ... I ll check this week - Complete Mage Focused Specialist for an NPC I m toying with. Looking to do that via more SUBCLASSes - Focused Evoker for
          Message 4 of 5 , Nov 5, 2006
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            > Still doesn't solve my problem, however, of figuring out whether
            > KNOWNSPELLSFROMSPECIALTY is working correctly...

            I'll check this week - Complete Mage "Focused Specialist" for an NPC
            I'm toying with. Looking to do that via more SUBCLASSes - "Focused
            Evoker" for example. I've got a feeling it currently isn't really
            looking at the number atm.

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            Tir Gwaith
            PCGen LST Chimp
          • thpr
            ... Tir, no need to test anything - you ll note I confused myself between KNOWN spells and CAST spells when I was looking at this. It is correctly (if a bit
            Message 5 of 5 , Nov 8, 2006
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              --- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, "Tir Gwaith" <Tir.Gwaith@...> wrote:
              >
              > > Still doesn't solve my problem, however, of figuring out whether
              > > KNOWNSPELLSFROMSPECIALTY is working correctly...
              >
              > I'll check this week - Complete Mage "Focused Specialist" for an NPC
              > I'm toying with. Looking to do that via more SUBCLASSes - "Focused
              > Evoker" for example. I've got a feeling it currently isn't really
              > looking at the number atm.

              Tir, no need to test anything - you'll note I confused myself between
              KNOWN spells and CAST spells when I was looking at this. It is
              correctly (if a bit strangely) applied to known spells.
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