RE: [pcgen] Re: new PCs -- which starting tab?
- Going out on a limb a bit here...
I think WotC's point of view is that each player of DnD should buy their own
PHB, or borrow a friend's, hoping that they will eventually get their own.
If there's a program out there that steps a person through creating a
character, there's really not much reason to buy a PHB. PCGen in it's
current state doesn't eliminate the need to have access to a PHB, it simply
enhances the use of a PHB. The inclusion of a Character Creation Wizard or
even written instructions on creating a character may reduce the necessity
of having access to a PHB.
Personally, I think it would be cool to have a step-by-step character
creation guide. It could include hints and tips on game mechanics and
suggestions for what to put into each level as a roadmap to what you want
your character to be like at high level. Unfortunately that would be a
different product, and would likely infringe on WotC's sales of PHBs and
splat books like Sword & Fist. If we want to have more DnD stuff from WotC,
we have to make it worth-while for WotC to create it by supporting their
efforts. That support is undermined if they aren't selling as many of their
best seller - the PHB.
WotC has taken a lot of risk by going to the Open Gaming License, and that
gamble is paying off for them. Protecting their intellectual property, the
stuff that makes sales for them, is tantamount to their staying in business.
Wow, I really didn't intend to write a book, and if what I said sounds like
a lecture it really wasn't intended to. I just wanted to illustrate that
some of the things that seem simple have far reaching impact on the RPG
community and the companies that support it.
From: Steven Gilroy [mailto:sgilroy2@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [pcgen] Re: new PCs -- which starting tab?
I don't want to start any big argument here but...
What's the difference between putting the info in text boxes on
different tabs of the main program and popping up a window with the same
I don't think a different for of entry would constitute character
creation/advancement. You just need "Wizard Step 1" with boxes for CHA,
STR, CON, WIS, INT, and DEX then a next button..."Wizard Step 2" with
drop downs labled Alignment and Race..."Wizard Step 3" with a drop down
labled for Class. You aren't describing the creation/advancement by
doing this, you are just providing an alternative method of entering the
> No way. Ever.--
> Main restrictiction of the liscenses is to not describe character
> ~PCGen BoD
> ~OS Silverback
>>From: krazhit [mailto:here@...]
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 10:55 AM
>>Subject: [pcgen] Re: new PCs -- which starting tab?
>>How about a Character Wizard (No not that kind of wizard:) for new
>>users? (God knows I might even use it if properly
>>implemented). This Wizard would lead the user through all the
>>steps to create a first level character ((Sources-)Stats-Race-
>>This would be the default for new characters, but for experienced
>>users it could be swithced off via the prefs.
>>This has probably been discussed before, but I have never seen it
>>--- In email@example.com, "B. K. Oxley (binkley)" <binkley@a...>
>>>I notice that if you do this:
>>>1. Start fresh PCGen.
>>>2. Load sources.
>>>3. Start a new PC.
>>>4. Switch to some other tab than Summary.
>>>5. Start a second new PC.
>>>Then the second PC when he starts isn't on the Summary tab but on
>>the tab of the first
>>>PC, whatever tab it was you switched to.
>>>This is super simple to change so that new PCs always start on the
>>Summary tab, so I
>>>have to wonder: is this intentional? I'm tempted to "fix" it right
>>now in CVS HEAD, but
>>>I don't want to do that if there is a user or policy reason to keep
>>the current behavior.
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- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Tir Gwaith" <thoron-tir-gwaith@l...> wrote:
> The idea behind Current tab would be: I open John Doe. Go to Equipment. IAh, thank you for explaining! I was viewing it as a static setting rather than a dynamic
> open Jane Doe, Stays on equipment. I then go to Spells (Jane is a
> spellcaster.) I then open Jane's friend, Henry Smith, also a spellcaster.
> Since I was last on the Spells tab, it stays on the Current tab (in this
> second case, the Spells tab). A moving 'whatever was the last selected tab,
> not a specific tab that the user happened to be on when they went to
one. You have cast the blinders off my eyes. Then I agree that we should have that