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[OT] Loremaster vs. Spectral Loremaster

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  • Paul Grosse
    I have a question for anyone that has Mongooses Necrology (sp?) book. In particular the Spectral Loremaster, if I remember right the PrC requires the
    Message 1 of 18 , Apr 29, 2003
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      I have a question for anyone that has Mongooses Necrology (sp?) book.
      In particular the Spectral Loremaster, if I remember right the PrC
      requires the Loremaster to no longer cast Divination spells, or
      something like that? If so then the Loremaster & Spectral Loremaster
      class would be mutually exclusive, and I just wanted to make sure
      before I handed this char to my DM :)

      Paul "Yes that Paul" Grosse
      PCGen OGL Gibbon
      ICQ: 14397299
      AO: Nylan
      Various forums: Nylan (or Nylanfs)

      "The Earth is just too small and fragile a basket for the human race
      to keep all it's eggs in." - Robert Heinlein
    • Mynex
      *whips out Necromancy book, flips to page 11* Spellcasting: Must be able to cast arcane spells and may not have divination as an opposing school of
      Message 2 of 18 , Apr 29, 2003
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        *whips out Necromancy book, flips to page 11*

        Spellcasting: Must be able to cast arcane spells and may not have
        divination as an opposing school of specialization.

        (well 'specialised' is what they have, silly English, can't spell. :p)

        W. Robert Reed III
        Mynex
        - #1 Evil Monkey
        - Code Monkey Publishing Co-Founder
        - PCGen Board of Directors: Special Projects

        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: Paul Grosse [mailto:pgrosse@...]
        > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 5:12 PM
        > To: Pcgen (E-mail)
        > Subject: [pcgen] [OT] Loremaster vs. Spectral Loremaster
        >
        > I have a question for anyone that has Mongooses Necrology (sp?) book.
        > In particular the Spectral Loremaster, if I remember right the PrC
        > requires the Loremaster to no longer cast Divination spells, or
        > something like that? If so then the Loremaster & Spectral Loremaster
        > class would be mutually exclusive, and I just wanted to make sure
        > before I handed this char to my DM :)
        >
        > Paul "Yes that Paul" Grosse
        > PCGen OGL Gibbon
        > ICQ: 14397299
        > AO: Nylan
        > Various forums: Nylan (or Nylanfs)
        >
        > "The Earth is just too small and fragile a basket for the human race
        > to keep all it's eggs in." - Robert Heinlein
        >
        >
      • Emily Smirle
        ... The big question is what does May not have divination as an opposing school of specialization mean? Does that mean it can t be your forbidden school, or
        Message 3 of 18 , Apr 29, 2003
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          Mynex wrote:
          > *whips out Necromancy book, flips to page 11*
          >
          > Spellcasting: Must be able to cast arcane spells and may not have
          > divination as an opposing school of specialization.
          >
          > (well 'specialised' is what they have, silly English, can't spell. :p)
          >

          The big question is what does "May not have divination as an opposing
          school of specialization" mean?

          Does that mean it can't be your forbidden school, or can't be your
          specialized school?
          --
          "Is he an evil outsider?"
          "Well, he was one of the loners in evil kindergarten..."
        • Anestis Kozakis
          ... I interpret it to mean it can t be your forbidden school. Anestis. -- kenosti@labyrinth.net.au No brilliance is needed in the law. Nothing but common
          Message 4 of 18 , Apr 29, 2003
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            >Mynex wrote:
            >> *whips out Necromancy book, flips to page 11*
            >>
            >> Spellcasting: Must be able to cast arcane spells and may not have
            >> divination as an opposing school of specialization.
            >>
            >> (well 'specialised' is what they have, silly English, can't spell. :p)
            >>
            >
            >The big question is what does "May not have divination as an opposing
            >school of specialization" mean?
            >
            >Does that mean it can't be your forbidden school, or can't be your
            >specialized school?

            I interpret it to mean it can't be your forbidden school.


            Anestis.

            --
            kenosti@...
            "No brilliance is needed in the law. Nothing but common sense,
            and relatively clean fingernails".
            From "A Voyage Round My Father", by John Mortimer.
          • frugal@purplewombat.co.uk
            ... Well, the u key is a very underused and under rated key. If it was not for us English constantly correcting you damn colonials spelling of armour and
            Message 5 of 18 , Apr 30, 2003
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              > (well 'specialised' is what they have, silly English, can't spell. :p)

              Well, the 'u' key is a very underused and under rated key. If it was not
              for us English constantly correcting you damn colonials spelling of armour
              and colour the poor 'u' key would never get used and there would
              disharmony on the keyboard ;O)

              regards,
              Frugal
              -OS Tamarin
            • Tir Gwaith
              Man, we have enough US-Canadian spars here. Do we really want to start a pea (or is it peae? Ah, heck: Spit-wad) shooting contest across the pond? ... Oh, and
              Message 6 of 18 , Apr 30, 2003
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                Man, we have enough US-Canadian spars here. Do we really want to start a pea (or is it peae? Ah, heck: Spit-wad) shooting contest across the pond?

                :P

                Oh, and I use the letter 'U' a lot. BONUS: statements get typed a lot. Although when I'm going fast is usually BONSU: which prettylst.pl constantly berates me is not a valid tag, and I should know how to spell better. I'll take spelling corrections from the Canadian script any day of the week. :)

                Tir Gwaith

                >> (well 'specialised' is what they have, silly English, can't spell. :p)
                >
                >Well, the 'u' key is a very underused and under rated key. If it was not
                >for us English constantly correcting you damn colonials spelling of armour
                >and colour the poor 'u' key would never get used and there would
                >disharmony on the keyboard ;O)
              • David
                *Ugh* Don t get me started on editors! Coming from a host background (ya know that *BIG* Iron stuff), the editor I used on VM was Xedit, and with macros
                Message 7 of 18 , Apr 30, 2003
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                  *Ugh* Don't get me started on editors!

                  Coming from a host background (ya know that *BIG* Iron stuff), the
                  editor I used on VM was Xedit, and with macros running "automagically"
                  in the background, stuff like BONSU would get changed to BONUS (FIEL
                  anyone? == FILE),

                  -- david (aka Papa-DRB)

                  > Oh, and I use the letter 'U' a lot. BONUS: statements get
                  > typed a lot. Although when I'm going fast is usually BONSU:
                  > which prettylst.pl constantly berates me is not a valid tag,
                  > and I should know how to spell better. I'll take spelling
                  > corrections from the Canadian script any day of the week. :)
                  >
                  > Tir Gwaith
                  >
                  > >> (well 'specialised' is what they have, silly English, can't spell.
                  > >> :p)
                  > >
                  > >Well, the 'u' key is a very underused and under rated key. If it was
                  > >not for us English constantly correcting you damn colonials
                  > spelling of
                  > >armour and colour the poor 'u' key would never get used and
                  > there would
                  > >disharmony on the keyboard ;O)
                • Paul Grosse
                  *whips out Necromancy book, flips to page 11* Spellcasting: Must be able to cast arcane spells and may not have divination as an opposing school of
                  Message 8 of 18 , Apr 30, 2003
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                    <snip>
                    *whips out Necromancy book, flips to page 11*

                    Spellcasting: Must be able to cast arcane spells and may not have
                    divination as an opposing school of specialization.

                    (well 'specialised' is what they have, silly English, can't spell. :p)

                    W. Robert Reed III
                    Mynex
                    - #1 Evil Monkey
                    - Code Monkey Publishing Co-Founder
                    - PCGen Board of Directors: Special Projects
                    </snip>

                    Sweet, here comes my Expert/Wiz/loremaster/spectral loremaster char,
                    hehe. I hope his head doesn't explode, this guy will have knowledge
                    skills out the butt.

                    Paul "Yes that Paul" Grosse
                    PCGen OGL Gibbon
                    ICQ: 14397299
                    AO: Nylan
                    Various forums: Nylan (or Nylanfs)

                    "The Earth is just too small and fragile a basket for the human race
                    to keep all it's eggs in." - Robert Heinlein
                  • Paul W. King
                    ... And what of us poor saps that are a hodge-podge? I, personally, am: English, Irish, Scottish, Welsh, German (Bavarian actually), Swiss, Swedish and
                    Message 9 of 18 , Apr 30, 2003
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                      > Well, the 'u' key is a very underused and under rated key. If it
                      > was not for us English constantly correcting you damn colonials
                      > spelling of armour and colour the poor 'u' key would never get used
                      > and there would disharmony on the keyboard ;O)

                      ::chuckle::
                      And what of us poor saps that are a hodge-podge? I, personally, am:
                      English, Irish, Scottish, Welsh, German (Bavarian actually), Swiss,
                      Swedish and French, with a smattering of Shawnee, and possibly
                      Cherokee, for spice.

                      Paul W. King
                      OGL/PL SB and BoD
                    • letohnereg
                      ... spell. :p) ... was not ... of armour ... Some of us colonials can operate the u key fine. I have to ignore the many red coloured wavy lines when producing
                      Message 10 of 18 , Apr 30, 2003
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                        --- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, frugal@p... wrote:
                        > > (well 'specialised' is what they have, silly English, can't
                        spell. :p)
                        >
                        > Well, the 'u' key is a very underused and under rated key. If it
                        was not
                        > for us English constantly correcting you damn colonials spelling
                        of armour
                        > and colour the poor 'u' key would never get used and there would
                        > disharmony on the keyboard ;O)
                        >
                        > regards,
                        > Frugal
                        > -OS Tamarin

                        Some of us colonials can operate the u key fine.

                        I have to ignore the many red coloured wavy lines when producing
                        PCGen docs as I refuse to change my spell checker from English
                        (Australian) to any other incorrect version of the language :)

                        LetohNereg
                        Doc Gibbon
                      • Emily Smirle
                        ... All of those nations, with possible exception of Shawnee and Cherokee (dunno which side of the border they re on) spell English the proper way. :) Use the
                        Message 11 of 18 , Apr 30, 2003
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                          Paul W. King wrote:
                          > ::chuckle::
                          > And what of us poor saps that are a hodge-podge? I, personally, am:
                          > English, Irish, Scottish, Welsh, German (Bavarian actually), Swiss,
                          > Swedish and French, with a smattering of Shawnee, and possibly
                          > Cherokee, for spice.


                          All of those nations, with possible exception of Shawnee and Cherokee
                          (dunno which side of the border they're on) spell English the proper
                          way. :) Use the U.
                          --
                          "Is he an evil outsider?"
                          "Well, he was one of the loners in evil kindergarten..."
                        • pjak
                          ... Cherokee ... proper ... Hmm. Not being a native speaker of the language in question, I do have to ask which of the following is the correct spelling.
                          Message 12 of 18 , Apr 30, 2003
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                            --- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, Emily Smirle <smirle4498@r...> wrote:
                            > All of those nations, with possible exception of Shawnee and
                            Cherokee
                            > (dunno which side of the border they're on) spell English the
                            proper
                            > way. :) Use the U.

                            Hmm. Not being a native speaker of the language in question, I do
                            have to ask which of the following is the correct spelling.

                            Uenglish
                            Eunglish
                            Enuglish
                            Engulish
                            Engluish
                            Engliush
                            Englisuh
                            Englishu

                            /Junus, usung u us much us hu cun. ;-)
                          • Paul W. King
                            ... Shawnee and Cherokee are Native American Indian tribes/nations. Paul W. King OGL/PL SB and BoD
                            Message 13 of 18 , Apr 30, 2003
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                              > All of those nations, with possible exception of Shawnee and
                              > Cherokee (dunno which side of the border they're on) spell English
                              > the proper way. :) Use the U.

                              Shawnee and Cherokee are Native American Indian tribes/nations.

                              Paul W. King
                              OGL/PL SB and BoD
                            • Emily Smirle
                              ... as opposed to Native Canadian, gotcha. Hm. that might offset it. -- Is he an evil outsider? Well, he was one of the loners in evil kindergarten...
                              Message 14 of 18 , Apr 30, 2003
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                                Paul W. King wrote:
                                >>All of those nations, with possible exception of Shawnee and
                                >>Cherokee (dunno which side of the border they're on) spell English
                                >>the proper way. :) Use the U.
                                >
                                >
                                > Shawnee and Cherokee are Native American Indian tribes/nations.
                                >

                                as opposed to Native Canadian, gotcha. Hm. that might offset it.
                                --
                                "Is he an evil outsider?"
                                "Well, he was one of the loners in evil kindergarten..."
                              • Paul W. King
                                ... Well, I m not sure if they were in Canada or Mexico. The instances I m referring to were in the States. Paul W. King OGL/PL SB and BoD
                                Message 15 of 18 , Apr 30, 2003
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                                  > as opposed to Native Canadian, gotcha. Hm. that might offset it.

                                  Well, I'm not sure if they were in Canada or Mexico. The instances
                                  I'm referring to were in the States.

                                  Paul W. King
                                  OGL/PL SB and BoD
                                • Paul Smith
                                  Though there are plenty of descendants elsewhere now, Cherokee territory was originally in the USA Southeast. Georgia, the Carolinas, and parts of Tennessee
                                  Message 16 of 18 , Apr 30, 2003
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                                    Though there are plenty of descendants elsewhere now, Cherokee
                                    territory was originally in the USA Southeast. Georgia, the
                                    Carolinas, and parts of Tennessee and Alabama. There are plenty of
                                    others, though. Even in the same regions. I'm originally from
                                    Alabama, and maybe a quarter of the local place names are from the
                                    names of American Indian tribes. Sylacauga, Tuscaloosa, Talladega,
                                    Choctaw, Cahaba, Chickasaw, Mobile, Opelika, Tallassee, Tuskegee,
                                    Wedowee, Wetumpka, etc. These are just the ones with a web presence.
                                    I'm primarily Scotch/Irish on both sides, with a trace of Cherokee
                                    and German on one side, and a trace of Cherokee on the other. Since
                                    several of the above native names have u's, they seem to pass the "u
                                    test". Even USA has a "u" in it. Americans do understand the use of
                                    the "u" key, they just show a little moderation with it. ;)

                                    Paul Smith

                                    --- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, "Paul W. King" <kingpaul@e...> wrote:
                                    > > All of those nations, with possible exception of Shawnee and
                                    > > Cherokee (dunno which side of the border they're on) spell
                                    English
                                    > > the proper way. :) Use the U.
                                    >
                                    > Shawnee and Cherokee are Native American Indian tribes/nations.
                                    >
                                    > Paul W. King
                                    > OGL/PL SB and BoD
                                  • gilmere97
                                    Where in Alabama? I was born in LA(lower Alabama) and have lived in Huntsville since I was 2. Waite Dykes
                                    Message 17 of 18 , Apr 30, 2003
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                                      Where in Alabama? I was born in LA(lower Alabama) and have lived in
                                      Huntsville since I was 2.

                                      Waite Dykes
                                    • cdtaylor_nats
                                      ... I would suggest everyone interested in the use of U should read Bill Bryson s book The Mother Tongue .
                                      Message 18 of 18 , Apr 30, 2003
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                                        --- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, "gilmere97" <jenni227@c...> wrote:
                                        > Where in Alabama? I was born in LA(lower Alabama) and have lived in
                                        > Huntsville since I was 2.
                                        >
                                        > Waite Dykes

                                        I would suggest everyone interested in the use of "U" should read
                                        Bill Bryson's book "The Mother Tongue".
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