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Re: [pcgen] [PF] Druid Domain Broken - No restriction to what domains can be selected

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  • Eric C Smith
    Hi Folks! Nope, not what I m proposing Drew. I think it needs to be put back the way it was and fix the real problem. Maredudd
    Message 1 of 8 , Feb 7 8:28 PM
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      Hi Folks!

      Nope, not what I'm proposing Drew.

      I think it needs to be put back the way it was and fix the real problem.

      Maredudd

      On Feb 7, 2013, at 11:19 PM, Andrew wrote:

      >
      >
      > Well, broke or not, you're proposing two options as best I can tell:
      > 1) re-write every single deity
      > 2) Code a new Domain System
      >
      > That's the problem of piggybacking on the cleric domain system.
      >
      > Gotta run. Be back later.
      >
      > On 2/7/2013 8:16 PM, Eric C Smith wrote:
      > > Hi Folks!
      > >
      > > I humbly state Andrew that if it is working as intended then who ever coded it that way should rethink what they intended.
      > >
      > > Per the PFCR, the Druid selecting the Druid Domain has exactly 7 domains to choose from, and they are NOT, in PCGen 6.01.01, available unless "None" is taken for a deity and then ALL domains, except for the alignment restricted ones, are also available.
      > >
      > > Further, when any other deity is selected, only that deities domains are available, and that breaks the rules per PFCR.
      > >
      > > In plain language Drew, its broke.
      > >
      > > Maredudd
      > >
      > > On Feb 7, 2013, at 11:05 PM, Andrew wrote:
      > >
      > >> Hi,
      > >>
      > >> That's not a bug, that's working as intended. Unless you wish to restrict NONE as a Deity available
      > >> to Druids. Or wish to manually enter each and every domain allowed excluding the Domains granted to
      > >> the druids.
      > >>
      > >> Cheers,
      > >>
      > >> On 2/7/2013 8:02 PM, Eric C Smith wrote:
      > >>> Hi Folks!
      > >>>
      > >>> PCGen 6.01.01 w/PFCR loaded
      > >>>
      > >>> Create a Halfling Druid w/15 in all stats.
      > >>> Select Nature Bond - Druid Domain
      > >>>
      > >>> Without selecting a deity the appropriate domains, per PFCR, are visible but all are red and cannot be selected.
      > >>>
      > >>> Select "None" for deity and all domain except for those restricted by alignment are now visible, selectable, and grant the domain abilities to the druid.
      > >>>
      > >>> Selecting any other deity makes that deities domains available.
      > >>>
      > >>> Maredudd
      > >>>
      > >>> ------------------------------------
      > >>>
      > >>> Related Lists
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      > >>>
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      > >>>
      > >> --
      > >> Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
      > >> Admin Silverback - PCGen Board of Directors
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      > >> Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
      > >> Unique Title "The Torturer of PCGen"
      > >>
      > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      > >>
      > >>
      > >
      > > ------------------------------------
      > >
      > > Related Lists
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      > > PCGen's alpha build: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/07_autobuilds.php
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      > >
      > >
      > > PCGen List File Help: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PCGenListFileHelp/
      > > (for assistance in creating new homebrew or official list files)
      > >
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      > > (for new official data source development)
      > > Yahoo! Groups Links
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      >
      > --
      > Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
      > Admin Silverback - PCGen Board of Directors
      > Data 2nd, Docs Tamarin, OS Lemur
      > Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
      > Unique Title "The Torturer of PCGen"
      >
      > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      >
      >
    • Andrew
      Hi, I m not following. Explain what you mean by put it back the way it was and fix the real problem ... -- Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing) Admin Silverback -
      Message 2 of 8 , Feb 7 8:37 PM
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        Hi,

        I'm not following. Explain what you mean by "put it back the way it was and fix the real problem"

        On 2/7/2013 8:28 PM, Eric C Smith wrote:
        > Hi Folks!
        >
        > Nope, not what I'm proposing Drew.
        >
        > I think it needs to be put back the way it was and fix the real problem.
        >
        > Maredudd
        >
        > On Feb 7, 2013, at 11:19 PM, Andrew wrote:
        >
        >> Well, broke or not, you're proposing two options as best I can tell:
        >> 1) re-write every single deity
        >> 2) Code a new Domain System
        >>
        >> That's the problem of piggybacking on the cleric domain system.
        >>
        >> Gotta run. Be back later.
        >>
        >> On 2/7/2013 8:16 PM, Eric C Smith wrote:
        >>> Hi Folks!
        >>>
        >>> I humbly state Andrew that if it is working as intended then who ever coded it that way should rethink what they intended.
        >>>
        >>> Per the PFCR, the Druid selecting the Druid Domain has exactly 7 domains to choose from, and they are NOT, in PCGen 6.01.01, available unless "None" is taken for a deity and then ALL domains, except for the alignment restricted ones, are also available.
        >>>
        >>> Further, when any other deity is selected, only that deities domains are available, and that breaks the rules per PFCR.
        >>>
        >>> In plain language Drew, its broke.
        >>>
        >>> Maredudd
        >>>
        >>> On Feb 7, 2013, at 11:05 PM, Andrew wrote:
        >>>
        >>>> Hi,
        >>>>
        >>>> That's not a bug, that's working as intended. Unless you wish to restrict NONE as a Deity available
        >>>> to Druids. Or wish to manually enter each and every domain allowed excluding the Domains granted to
        >>>> the druids.
        >>>>
        >>>> Cheers,
        >>>>
        >>>> On 2/7/2013 8:02 PM, Eric C Smith wrote:
        >>>>> Hi Folks!
        >>>>>
        >>>>> PCGen 6.01.01 w/PFCR loaded
        >>>>>
        >>>>> Create a Halfling Druid w/15 in all stats.
        >>>>> Select Nature Bond - Druid Domain
        >>>>>
        >>>>> Without selecting a deity the appropriate domains, per PFCR, are visible but all are red and cannot be selected.
        >>>>>
        >>>>> Select "None" for deity and all domain except for those restricted by alignment are now visible, selectable, and grant the domain abilities to the druid.
        >>>>>
        >>>>> Selecting any other deity makes that deities domains available.
        >>>>>
        >>>>> Maredudd
        >>>>>
        >>>>> ------------------------------------
        >>>>>
        >>>>> Related Lists
        >>>>> PCGen's release site: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net
        >>>>> PCGen's Mailing Lists and Links: http://wiki.pcgen.org/Mailing_Lists_and_PCGen_Links
        >>>>> PCGen's alpha build: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/07_autobuilds.php
        >>>>> PCGen's JIRA Tracker: http://jira.pcgen.org
        >>>>>
        >>>>>
        >>>>> PCGen List File Help: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PCGenListFileHelp/
        >>>>> (for assistance in creating new homebrew or official list files)
        >>>>>
        >>>>> PCGen Experimental: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/pcgen_experimental/
        >>>>> (for new official data source development)
        >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
        >>>>>
        >>>>>
        >>>>>
        >>>>>
        >>>> --
        >>>> Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
        >>>> Admin Silverback - PCGen Board of Directors
        >>>> Data 2nd, Docs Tamarin, OS Lemur
        >>>> Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
        >>>> Unique Title "The Torturer of PCGen"
        >>>>
        >>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        >>>>
        >>>>
        >>> ------------------------------------
        >>>
        >>> Related Lists
        >>> PCGen's release site: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net
        >>> PCGen's Mailing Lists and Links: http://wiki.pcgen.org/Mailing_Lists_and_PCGen_Links
        >>> PCGen's alpha build: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/07_autobuilds.php
        >>> PCGen's JIRA Tracker: http://jira.pcgen.org
        >>>
        >>>
        >>> PCGen List File Help: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PCGenListFileHelp/
        >>> (for assistance in creating new homebrew or official list files)
        >>>
        >>> PCGen Experimental: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/pcgen_experimental/
        >>> (for new official data source development)
        >>> Yahoo! Groups Links
        >>>
        >>>
        >>>
        >>>
        >> --
        >> Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
        >> Admin Silverback - PCGen Board of Directors
        >> Data 2nd, Docs Tamarin, OS Lemur
        >> Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
        >> Unique Title "The Torturer of PCGen"
        >>
        >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        >>
        >>
        >
        > ------------------------------------
        >
        > Related Lists
        > PCGen's release site: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net
        > PCGen's Mailing Lists and Links: http://wiki.pcgen.org/Mailing_Lists_and_PCGen_Links
        > PCGen's alpha build: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/07_autobuilds.php
        > PCGen's JIRA Tracker: http://jira.pcgen.org
        >
        >
        > PCGen List File Help: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PCGenListFileHelp/
        > (for assistance in creating new homebrew or official list files)
        >
        > PCGen Experimental: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/pcgen_experimental/
        > (for new official data source development)
        > Yahoo! Groups Links
        >
        >
        >
        >

        --
        Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
        Admin Silverback - PCGen Board of Directors
        Data 2nd, Docs Tamarin, OS Lemur
        Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
        Unique Title "The Torturer of PCGen"


        [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      • Eric C Smith
        Hi Folks! We should take this discussion to Experimental where LST mechanic issues are generally worked out. Maredudd
        Message 3 of 8 , Feb 7 8:42 PM
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          Hi Folks!

          We should take this discussion to Experimental where LST mechanic issues are generally worked out.

          Maredudd

          On Feb 7, 2013, at 11:37 PM, Andrew wrote:

          > Hi,
          >
          > I'm not following. Explain what you mean by "put it back the way it was and fix the real problem"
          >
          > On 2/7/2013 8:28 PM, Eric C Smith wrote:
          > > Hi Folks!
          > >
          > > Nope, not what I'm proposing Drew.
          > >
          > > I think it needs to be put back the way it was and fix the real problem.
          > >
          > > Maredudd
          > >
          > > On Feb 7, 2013, at 11:19 PM, Andrew wrote:
          > >
          > >> Well, broke or not, you're proposing two options as best I can tell:
          > >> 1) re-write every single deity
          > >> 2) Code a new Domain System
          > >>
          > >> That's the problem of piggybacking on the cleric domain system.
          > >>
          > >> Gotta run. Be back later.
          > >>
          > >> On 2/7/2013 8:16 PM, Eric C Smith wrote:
          > >>> Hi Folks!
          > >>>
          > >>> I humbly state Andrew that if it is working as intended then who ever coded it that way should rethink what they intended.
          > >>>
          > >>> Per the PFCR, the Druid selecting the Druid Domain has exactly 7 domains to choose from, and they are NOT, in PCGen 6.01.01, available unless "None" is taken for a deity and then ALL domains, except for the alignment restricted ones, are also available.
          > >>>
          > >>> Further, when any other deity is selected, only that deities domains are available, and that breaks the rules per PFCR.
          > >>>
          > >>> In plain language Drew, its broke.
          > >>>
          > >>> Maredudd
          > >>>
          > >>> On Feb 7, 2013, at 11:05 PM, Andrew wrote:
          > >>>
          > >>>> Hi,
          > >>>>
          > >>>> That's not a bug, that's working as intended. Unless you wish to restrict NONE as a Deity available
          > >>>> to Druids. Or wish to manually enter each and every domain allowed excluding the Domains granted to
          > >>>> the druids.
          > >>>>
          > >>>> Cheers,
          > >>>>
          > >>>> On 2/7/2013 8:02 PM, Eric C Smith wrote:
          > >>>>> Hi Folks!
          > >>>>>
          > >>>>> PCGen 6.01.01 w/PFCR loaded
          > >>>>>
          > >>>>> Create a Halfling Druid w/15 in all stats.
          > >>>>> Select Nature Bond - Druid Domain
          > >>>>>
          > >>>>> Without selecting a deity the appropriate domains, per PFCR, are visible but all are red and cannot be selected.
          > >>>>>
          > >>>>> Select "None" for deity and all domain except for those restricted by alignment are now visible, selectable, and grant the domain abilities to the druid.
          > >>>>>
          > >>>>> Selecting any other deity makes that deities domains available.
          > >>>>>
          > >>>>> Maredudd
          > >>>>>
          > >>>>> ------------------------------------
          > >>>>>
          > >>>>> Related Lists
          > >>>>> PCGen's release site: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net
          > >>>>> PCGen's Mailing Lists and Links: http://wiki.pcgen.org/Mailing_Lists_and_PCGen_Links
          > >>>>> PCGen's alpha build: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/07_autobuilds.php
          > >>>>> PCGen's JIRA Tracker: http://jira.pcgen.org
          > >>>>>
          > >>>>>
          > >>>>> PCGen List File Help: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PCGenListFileHelp/
          > >>>>> (for assistance in creating new homebrew or official list files)
          > >>>>>
          > >>>>> PCGen Experimental: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/pcgen_experimental/
          > >>>>> (for new official data source development)
          > >>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
          > >>>>>
          > >>>>>
          > >>>>>
          > >>>>>
          > >>>> --
          > >>>> Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
          > >>>> Admin Silverback - PCGen Board of Directors
          > >>>> Data 2nd, Docs Tamarin, OS Lemur
          > >>>> Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
          > >>>> Unique Title "The Torturer of PCGen"
          > >>>>
          > >>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          > >>>>
          > >>>>
          > >>> ------------------------------------
          > >>>
          > >>> Related Lists
          > >>> PCGen's release site: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net
          > >>> PCGen's Mailing Lists and Links: http://wiki.pcgen.org/Mailing_Lists_and_PCGen_Links
          > >>> PCGen's alpha build: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/07_autobuilds.php
          > >>> PCGen's JIRA Tracker: http://jira.pcgen.org
          > >>>
          > >>>
          > >>> PCGen List File Help: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PCGenListFileHelp/
          > >>> (for assistance in creating new homebrew or official list files)
          > >>>
          > >>> PCGen Experimental: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/pcgen_experimental/
          > >>> (for new official data source development)
          > >>> Yahoo! Groups Links
          > >>>
          > >>>
          > >>>
          > >>>
          > >> --
          > >> Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
          > >> Admin Silverback - PCGen Board of Directors
          > >> Data 2nd, Docs Tamarin, OS Lemur
          > >> Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
          > >> Unique Title "The Torturer of PCGen"
          > >>
          > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          > >>
          > >>
          > >
          > > ------------------------------------
          > >
          > > Related Lists
          > > PCGen's release site: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net
          > > PCGen's Mailing Lists and Links: http://wiki.pcgen.org/Mailing_Lists_and_PCGen_Links
          > > PCGen's alpha build: http://pcgen.sourceforge.net/07_autobuilds.php
          > > PCGen's JIRA Tracker: http://jira.pcgen.org
          > >
          > >
          > > PCGen List File Help: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/PCGenListFileHelp/
          > > (for assistance in creating new homebrew or official list files)
          > >
          > > PCGen Experimental: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/pcgen_experimental/
          > > (for new official data source development)
          > > Yahoo! Groups Links
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > >
          >
          > --
          > Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing)
          > Admin Silverback - PCGen Board of Directors
          > Data 2nd, Docs Tamarin, OS Lemur
          > Unique Title "Quick-Silverback Tracker Monkey"
          > Unique Title "The Torturer of PCGen"
          >
          > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          >
          >
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