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  • Eric C Smith
    Hi Folks! Running 5.17.20, PF Core Rulebook, APG, Bestiary loaded. 1st Lvl Halfling, Bard, longsword, chain shirt, and light shield equipped - AC:19 (+1 size,
    Message 1 of 8 , Oct 22, 2012
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      Hi Folks!

      Running 5.17.20, PF Core Rulebook, APG, Bestiary loaded.

      1st Lvl Halfling, Bard, longsword, chain shirt, and light shield equipped -> AC:19 (+1 size, +3 stat, +4 chain shirt, +1 lgt shield)

      Same character with longsword & chain shirt equipped, shield not equipped (i.e. removed from character) -> AC:19 (same bonuses as above)

      Maredudd
    • Andrew
      Hi, Unable to duplicate. Works for me. ... -- Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing) Admin Silverback - PCGen Board of Directors Data 2nd, Docs Tamarin, OS Lemur Unique
      Message 2 of 8 , Oct 22, 2012
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        Hi,

        Unable to duplicate. Works for me.

        On 10/22/2012 8:51 PM, Eric C Smith wrote:
        > Hi Folks!
        >
        > Running 5.17.20, PF Core Rulebook, APG, Bestiary loaded.
        >
        > 1st Lvl Halfling, Bard, longsword, chain shirt, and light shield equipped -> AC:19 (+1 size, +3 stat, +4 chain shirt, +1 lgt shield)
        >
        > Same character with longsword & chain shirt equipped, shield not equipped (i.e. removed from character) -> AC:19 (same bonuses as above)
        >
        > Maredudd
        >
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      • daft_inquisitor
        Do you have them under two different Equipment Sets? I ve had the same thing happen to me. It won t update the character when you switch from one Equipment Set
        Message 3 of 8 , Oct 22, 2012
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          Do you have them under two different Equipment Sets? I've had the same thing happen to me. It won't update the character when you switch from one Equipment Set to the other.

          --- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, Andrew <drew0500@...> wrote:
          >
          > Hi,
          >
          > Unable to duplicate. Works for me.
          >
          > On 10/22/2012 8:51 PM, Eric C Smith wrote:
          > > Hi Folks!
          > >
          > > Running 5.17.20, PF Core Rulebook, APG, Bestiary loaded.
          > >
          > > 1st Lvl Halfling, Bard, longsword, chain shirt, and light shield equipped -> AC:19 (+1 size, +3 stat, +4 chain shirt, +1 lgt shield)
          > >
          > > Same character with longsword & chain shirt equipped, shield not equipped (i.e. removed from character) -> AC:19 (same bonuses as above)
          > >
          > > Maredudd
          > >
          > > ------------------------------------
          > >
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        • Andrew
          Hi, Then the issue is making sure the equip set that is set as active should be honored. ... -- Andrew Maitland (LegacyKing) Admin Silverback - PCGen Board of
          Message 4 of 8 , Oct 22, 2012
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            Hi,

            Then the issue is making sure the equip set that is set as active should be honored.

            On 10/22/2012 9:17 PM, daft_inquisitor wrote:
            > Do you have them under two different Equipment Sets? I've had the same thing happen to me. It won't update the character when you switch from one Equipment Set to the other.
            >
            > --- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, Andrew <drew0500@...> wrote:
            >> Hi,
            >>
            >> Unable to duplicate. Works for me.
            >>
            >> On 10/22/2012 8:51 PM, Eric C Smith wrote:
            >>> Hi Folks!
            >>>
            >>> Running 5.17.20, PF Core Rulebook, APG, Bestiary loaded.
            >>>
            >>> 1st Lvl Halfling, Bard, longsword, chain shirt, and light shield equipped -> AC:19 (+1 size, +3 stat, +4 chain shirt, +1 lgt shield)
            >>>
            >>> Same character with longsword & chain shirt equipped, shield not equipped (i.e. removed from character) -> AC:19 (same bonuses as above)
            >>>
            >>> Maredudd
            >>>
            >>> ------------------------------------
            >>>
            >>> Related Lists
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          • Eric C Smith
            Yep. Two different equip sets. Maredudd
            Message 5 of 8 , Oct 22, 2012
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              Yep. Two different equip sets.

              Maredudd

              On Oct 23, 2012, at 12:17 AM, daft_inquisitor wrote:

              > Do you have them under two different Equipment Sets? I've had the same thing happen to me. It won't update the character when you switch from one Equipment Set to the other.
              >
              > --- In pcgen@yahoogroups.com, Andrew <drew0500@...> wrote:
              > >
              > > Hi,
              > >
              > > Unable to duplicate. Works for me.
              > >
              > > On 10/22/2012 8:51 PM, Eric C Smith wrote:
              > > > Hi Folks!
              > > >
              > > > Running 5.17.20, PF Core Rulebook, APG, Bestiary loaded.
              > > >
              > > > 1st Lvl Halfling, Bard, longsword, chain shirt, and light shield equipped -> AC:19 (+1 size, +3 stat, +4 chain shirt, +1 lgt shield)
              > > >
              > > > Same character with longsword & chain shirt equipped, shield not equipped (i.e. removed from character) -> AC:19 (same bonuses as above)
              > > >
              > > > Maredudd
              > > >
              > > > ------------------------------------
              > > >
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              > >
              > > --
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              > > Admin Silverback - PCGen Board of Directors
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            • Andrew Wilson
              As you sure you don t have the treat carried items as equipped option turned on? andrew ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
              Message 6 of 8 , Oct 23, 2012
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                As you sure you don't have the treat carried items as equipped option
                turned on?

                andrew

                On 23 October 2012 04:51, Eric C Smith <maredudd@...> wrote:

                > Hi Folks!
                >
                > Running 5.17.20, PF Core Rulebook, APG, Bestiary loaded.
                >
                > 1st Lvl Halfling, Bard, longsword, chain shirt, and light shield equipped
                > -> AC:19 (+1 size, +3 stat, +4 chain shirt, +1 lgt shield)
                >
                > Same character with longsword & chain shirt equipped, shield not equipped
                > (i.e. removed from character) -> AC:19 (same bonuses as above)
                >
                > Maredudd
                >
                > ------------------------------------
                >
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              • Eric C Smith
                Hi Folks! ... Irrelevant in this case as the shield has not been added to the character in ANY slot. It was unequipped from the Shield slot and left in the
                Message 7 of 8 , Oct 23, 2012
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                  Hi Folks!

                  Andrew Wilson wrote:

                  > As you sure you don't have the treat carried items as equipped option
                  > turned on?

                  Irrelevant in this case as the shield has not been added to the character in ANY slot. It was unequipped from the Shield slot and left in the right pane of the Equipment sub-tab.

                  As daft_inquisitor inquired, I have two equipment sets, one with the shield and one without.

                  As Drew states, it seems to be a matter of PCGen not applying the active equipment set. After a quick test, the Default Equipment Set is applied with no other sets being honored. I checked on both the d20 Fantasy Standard and the d20 Fantasy Compact sheets with the same results.

                  Maredudd


                  > On 23 October 2012 04:51, Eric C Smith <maredudd@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > > Hi Folks!
                  > >
                  > > Running 5.17.20, PF Core Rulebook, APG, Bestiary loaded.
                  > >
                  > > 1st Lvl Halfling, Bard, longsword, chain shirt, and light shield equipped
                  > > -> AC:19 (+1 size, +3 stat, +4 chain shirt, +1 lgt shield)
                  > >
                  > > Same character with longsword & chain shirt equipped, shield not equipped
                  > > (i.e. removed from character) -> AC:19 (same bonuses as above)
                  > >
                  > > Maredudd
                • Andrew
                  Hi, Please open a tracker, I m not sure if Bug or Freq at this point. Either way, James can decide upon it. I saw a flood of code trackers come through, so
                  Message 8 of 8 , Oct 23, 2012
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                    Hi,

                    Please open a tracker, I'm not sure if Bug or Freq at this point. Either way, James can decide upon it.

                    I saw a flood of code trackers come through, so maybe holding off the release for a week was a good
                    idea. :)

                    On 10/23/2012 8:07 AM, Eric C Smith wrote:
                    > Hi Folks!
                    >
                    > Andrew Wilson wrote:
                    >
                    >> As you sure you don't have the treat carried items as equipped option
                    >> turned on?
                    > Irrelevant in this case as the shield has not been added to the character in ANY slot. It was unequipped from the Shield slot and left in the right pane of the Equipment sub-tab.
                    >
                    > As daft_inquisitor inquired, I have two equipment sets, one with the shield and one without.
                    >
                    > As Drew states, it seems to be a matter of PCGen not applying the active equipment set. After a quick test, the Default Equipment Set is applied with no other sets being honored. I checked on both the d20 Fantasy Standard and the d20 Fantasy Compact sheets with the same results.
                    >
                    > Maredudd
                    >
                    >
                    >> On 23 October 2012 04:51, Eric C Smith <maredudd@...> wrote:
                    >>
                    >>> Hi Folks!
                    >>>
                    >>> Running 5.17.20, PF Core Rulebook, APG, Bestiary loaded.
                    >>>
                    >>> 1st Lvl Halfling, Bard, longsword, chain shirt, and light shield equipped
                    >>> -> AC:19 (+1 size, +3 stat, +4 chain shirt, +1 lgt shield)
                    >>>
                    >>> Same character with longsword & chain shirt equipped, shield not equipped
                    >>> (i.e. removed from character) -> AC:19 (same bonuses as above)
                    >>>
                    >>> Maredudd
                    >
                    > ------------------------------------
                    >
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