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Re: [patriotzip] Thomas, Morris, and Kyle Brady are Patriots

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  • RandyZ. Pierce
    Indeed the Pats have made some impressive introductory moves in the off-season. I honestly won t expect too much more on the grande scale at this point - at
    Message 1 of 6 , Mar 4, 2007
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      Indeed the Pats have made some impressive introductory moves in the off-season.  I honestly won't expect too much more on the grande scale at this point - at least until after the draft but I didn't expect this much so what do I kmnow!
       
      Thomas - an excellent signing and a great addition to our system.  He can and likely will be the interior partner of Tedy Bruschi and will use an excellent combination of Size, speed and strength to make us strong against the run, strong against the pass and potently capable of the blitz.  All of our starting linebackers are again versatile, talented and generally very intelligent.  I really like this signing and at a very young 29 years of age he should have a bit of longevity for us as well. 
       
      I still see us looking for youth options as depth and development but at a much lower priority than just a few days ago.
       
      Daniel Graham is apparently closer to gone than I would have liked to hope.  Graham is of course reknowned in New England as the Best Blocking Tight End.  That may have been an inaccuracy as Brady might have earned that honor instead.  He's reasonably sure handed and definitely a blocking force.  He won't have the athleticism of Graham and certainly has less longevity but he came at likely half the price or less which helps make room for some of the other moves. 
       
      Morris excited me least of the options which is no slight on his performance but just notes that he is very similar to Maroney and Faulk.  I think he exists to give Maroney breathers and sustain a high level of talent.  We aren't top notch here by any stretch but very capable.  This likely means Evans is our short yardage guy and Morris is the experience replacement for Maroney while Faulk remains the all around all purpose back with third down specialization. 
       
      At wideout we already have a highly probable candidate in Wes Welker.  Very talented but not a number one receiver.  He would cost us the number sixty pick in the draft as well as a high salary (potential) for less than I'd prefer to spend.  Talented and beneficial but perhaps too costly which should become clear when the full details of the contract are released.  His return abilities will be a considerable benefit as well.
       
      So we franchised Samuels (and hopefully are working on a long term deal).  We tenderred Gay and have Hobbs.  We made a major move at almost every weak point and still have a healthy draft and some salary cap room.
       
      I really expect no other big names until we either sign Samuels long term, finish the draft and/or something unusual occurs with a free agent.  Despite feeling we should next expect doldrums for a bit, I'm still more than sufficiently pleased!
       
      Now in the draft I'd like a top tier safety, a high end linebacker prospect and a quality Wide Receiver with number one potential.
       
      That's a lot of want but it's not really a 'need' anywhere except perhaps safety.  As such I want the best fit of player to our team at the positions we can manage.  Reach for a perfect fit if you must but fill two of those in the first round and we'll be looking damn fine next year.
       
      Go Pats!
      Zip
       
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      Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 12:58 PM
      Subject: [patriotzip] Thomas, Morris, and Kyle Brady are Patriots

      For those who missed some great additions to the team:

       

      http://www.patriots.com/news/index.cfm?ac=latestnewsdetail&pid=24317&pcid=41

       

      Very uncharacteristic from our team but I like it.  I expect to see more of this during free agency.  I wouldn’t be surprised to see a pair of veteran WR’s picked up as well as a LB and some defensive backfield help. 

       

      Don

       


      From: patriotzip@yahoogroups.com [mailto: patriotzip@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Ken Collier
      Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 8:53 AM
      To:patriotzip@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [patriotzip] Big offer for Welker...

       

      I have to agree that a second round pick for another short WR is much too
      much for me. Javon Walker got traded for a second and you can't even begin
      to compare the talent levels there. Also, we always seem to sign a new WR
      who is going to be our deep threat and return specialist, but they never pan
      out.

      Where is Bethel Johnson now? Tim Dwight? Andre Davis? Even throw in Chad
      Jackson who dissapointed some in his first year. I would have rather seen
      them go after a good all-around guy like Patrick Crayton or a big possesion
      guy and TD machine in Ernest Wilford. Both also were tendered at the second
      round level.

      Instead we are getting a short WR, with only one good year to his name, and
      someone who has no nose for the endzone. His entire career he has had 1
      offensive TD.

      The more I think about it, I hate this move.

      But you are right Randy, I have heard that the deal is most likely loaded
      with huge salaries at the end of the deal that have no intentions of being
      payed (either restructure or cut him before then) to help keep the Dolphins
      from being able to match.

      Ken

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      From: "RandyZ. Pierce" <alaric02@sprynet. com>
      Reply-To: patriotzip@yahoogro ups.com
      To: <patriotzip@yahoogro ups.com>
      Subject: Re: [patriotzip] Big offer for Welker...
      Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 07:21:16 -0500

      That's a bit more than I'd like to pay for him when
      you add in the draft pick. I certainly appreciate
      much taking him away from a division rival and adding
      him to our talent pool but that is steep. I'd like to
      see the financial break down to see if it isn't
      somehow structured to give us the benefit. Frequently
      contracts have a lot of 'show' in them such that the
      numbers aren't as good as original reports might
      indicate.

      Also with the poison pill potential, the league must
      sanction the offer sheet/contract and Miami will get
      seven days (I believe) to determine their approach.

      I do think we just picked up our fourth player in a
      single day - impressive!

      Go Pats!
      Zip

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    • George
      ***** While I don t hate the move, Ken, your criticism of it aligns with what I identified as it s shortcomings. Welker is, indeed, a slot receiver; not a #1
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        ***** While I don't hate the move, Ken, your criticism of it aligns with what I identified as it's shortcomings. Welker is, indeed, a slot receiver; not a #1 WR. He's an excellent PR, and can probably do some KOR work as well. But I see the surrender of a R2 pick for that as questionable, at best. So, while I welcome him to the team, I think that we've overpaid, and that it still leaves us with the need for a #1 WR. I still see a trade as the only way to add a "sure thing" for that spot. Otherwise, I feel that we must take our best shot with a WR in R1.
         

        George
        Dogs have masters ... Cats have staff!

         
         


        From: patriotzip@yahoogroups.com [mailto:patriotzip@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Collier
        Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 8:53 PM
        To: patriotzip@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [SPAM] Re: [patriotzip] Big offer for Welker...

        I have to agree that a second round pick for another short WR is much too
        much for me. Javon Walker got traded for a second and you can't even begin
        to compare the talent levels there. Also, we always seem to sign a new WR
        who is going to be our deep threat and return specialist, but they never pan
        out.

        Where is Bethel Johnson now? Tim Dwight? Andre Davis? Even throw in Chad
        Jackson who dissapointed some in his first year. I would have rather seen
        them go after a good all-around guy like Patrick Crayton or a big possesion
        guy and TD machine in Ernest Wilford. Both also were tendered at the second
        round level.

        Instead we are getting a short WR, with only one good year to his name, and
        someone who has no nose for the endzone. His entire career he has had 1
        offensive TD.

        The more I think about it, I hate this move.

        But you are right Randy, I have heard that the deal is most likely loaded
        with huge salaries at the end of the deal that have no intentions of being
        payed (either restructure or cut him before then) to help keep the Dolphins
        from being able to match.

        Ken

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        From: "RandyZ. Pierce" <alaric02@sprynet. com>
        Reply-To: patriotzip@yahoogro ups.com
        To: <patriotzip@yahoogro ups.com>
        Subject: Re: [patriotzip] Big offer for Welker...
        Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 07:21:16 -0500

        That's a bit more than I'd like to pay for him when
        you add in the draft pick. I certainly appreciate
        much taking him away from a division rival and adding
        him to our talent pool but that is steep. I'd like to
        see the financial break down to see if it isn't
        somehow structured to give us the benefit. Frequently
        contracts have a lot of 'show' in them such that the
        numbers aren't as good as original reports might
        indicate.

        Also with the poison pill potential, the league must
        sanction the offer sheet/contract and Miami will get
        seven days (I believe) to determine their approach.

        I do think we just picked up our fourth player in a
        single day - impressive!

        Go Pats!
        Zip

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