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Playoff Tie-Breakers

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  • RandyZ. Pierce
    First I refer you all to the rules page for determining the playoff standings: http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakers Presently in the AFC we have: 1) Indy
    Message 1 of 7 , Dec 2, 2006
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      First I refer you all to the rules page for determining the playoff standings:
       
      Presently in the AFC we have:
      1) Indy 10-1
      2) San Diego 9-2
      3) Baltimore9-3
      4) New England8-3
       
      Close behind we have many teams but I'm going to concentrate upwards for the moment instead of down.  Any sliding down which could happen would obviously be a bad thing as our first goal is to try and make the playoffs, second to get home field advantage by winning the division and thirdly to make the top 2 seedings and earn a highly desired bye.
       
      The tie breakers now put games against common opponents above conference record.  This means that Baltimore which is 1/2 game up on us at present due to losing on Thursday, would actually trail us in common opponents since we beat Cincinnati and they split.  They also play Buffalo and presuming they beat Buffalo we twice beat Buffalo so lose no ground there.  This is a nice edge on the Ravens if we do our job here on out.
       
      San Diego is tougher because they are up one game on us and have beaten the Broncos whom we did not.  Presuming they only lose to the Broncos that would tie them with us and still give them a 1 and 1 split with Denver which is better than our 0-1 loss to the Broncos.  The good news is San Diego has a tough road ahead so we can reasonably believe they might (not will) lose two games.  This is nto a good position to be in against the Chargers but I'll keep some hope that Marty Ball near crunch time will help us.  I hope that cold air is mighty uninviting up in Buffalo this Sunday to give them a start on their downward slide.
       
      Indy has two losses ahead and of course owns the head to head advantage which puts them 2.5 games ahead of us with only five games remaining.  It is exceedingly unlikely the Colts will slip that far and I don't reasonably hope for such but I do unreasonably wish to keep an interested eye for them to stumble hard.
       
      So in the fourth spot we can climb to position 3 by beating the Lions.  To get to Position two we need San Diego to lose twice while we win out and for the top dog we'd need to leap all the way past Indy by their losing three games while we win out. 
       
      Personally I want to get into the show by playing quality football and peaking at the right time.  I want our team confident and ready whether they are locked at 3, 2 or seed numero uno.  I'd really love to get that bye week but playing well is more important by far.  I'm interested in Cutler's first game for the Broncos as they will be a factor in the above race but in my opinion Denver, San Diego and Indy are all quality teams with San Diego and Denver really scaring me more than Indy.  I'll take ours against theirs on the playoff stage however it comes but let's hope the boys know it's one game at a time to that point and this week is all Detroit in the Lions first ever visit to Gilette.
       
      Go Pats!
      Zip
    • George
      ***** We play who we play. If we can t beat a team in any stadium, then we don t belong in the Super Bowl this year. ***** Personally, I m encouraged by the
      Message 2 of 7 , Dec 2, 2006
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        ***** We play who we play. If we can't beat a team in any stadium, then we
        don't belong in the Super Bowl this year.

        ***** Personally, I'm encouraged by the fact that Rodney will almost
        certainly be back for the playoffs to help offset the loss of Junior.
        Wilson's return, and the full healing of Hobbs and Seymour should also help.
        There is also the possibility that Tully will follow the path of that other
        "pass rush specialist" we had at OLB a few years ago. He's just about at the
        point where Tedy began to show that he could be much, much more than that.

        ***** The D, which, if you weren't aware, is on a pace to set a team record
        for least points allowed in a season, has really carried the team thus far
        this season. Brady has obviously had what must be labelled as an off year,
        for him. The running game has been very good; but the passing game has
        really sucked. Watson is dropping every other pass. Graham injured too often
        to be a major factor. Chad Jackson has been a major disappointment to me.
        After all the pre-season talk about how BB personally scouted and
        interviewed him, I really expected him to be starting by now, and making
        people forget about that other Chad in Cinci; instead of just "hanging"
        around on the sidelines for most the game. (sorry!)

        ***** In any case, the learning process goes on. There is definitely reason
        to believe that the D will continue to play well throughout the rest of the
        season, and into the playoffs. There is less reason, but still hope, that
        they will allow Gabriel to play again; that Jackson will start to show what
        I thought he had in him; that Brady will return to making the right
        decisions more consistently; and that, by playoff time, our young OC will
        have learned enough to call a better game.

        ***** Five more games to complete the "fine tuning". As Randy said earlier,
        how well we are playing is much more important than where we play in
        January. I'll be listening on the net tonight, and for the next couple of
        weeks. But I just saw the good news in the schedule that the Jax game will
        be televised here on Christmas morning - 1:00 AM start! MERRY CHRISTMAS!

        Sawadee Khrap
        George


        -----Original Message-----
        From: patriots-bounces@... [mailto:patriots-bounces@...] On
        Behalf Of PatsSteve1@...
        Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 11:02 AM
        To: patriots@...
        Cc: Kirk Luedeke
        Subject: Re: Playoff Tie-Breakers

        Well, I hope it doesn't come down to too many of those breakers. Just win,
        baby. Hard to know what'll happen now with Denver, who were already
        reeling and now starting a guy who's never played in a real NFL game. And
        hasn't been on the bench long learning like Romo was. The Patriots haven't
        beaten da Dolts, da Bolts or Denver in awhile. None of the teams which look
        to make the playoffs are without flaws. Patriots included. Who's flaws can
        be best taken advantage of in certain matchups will go a long way in
        determining who does what.

        Steve -whatever what is



        -------------- Original message from Miguel <nancyandmiguel@...>:
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        >
        > --- "RandyZ. Pierce" wrote:
        >
        > > First I refer you all to the rules page for determining the playoff
        > > standings:
        > > http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakers
        > >
        > > Presently in the AFC we have:
        > > 1) Indy 10-1
        > > 2) San Diego 9-2
        > > 3) Baltimore9-3
        > > 4) New England8-3
        > >
        > > Close behind we have many teams but I'm going to concentrate upwards
        > > for the moment instead of down.
        > > Any sliding down which could happen would obviously be a bad thing
        > > as our first goal is to try and make the playoffs, second to get
        > > home field advantage by winning the division and thirdly to make the
        > > top 2 seedings and earn a highly desired bye.
        > >
        > > The tie breakers now put games against common opponents above
        > > conference record.
        >
        > That's for determining a division champion.
        >
        > >From aforementioned page -
        > "3. To determine home-field priority among division titlists, apply
        > Wild-Card tie breakers"
        > TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM If it is necessary to break ties
        > to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the
        > following steps will be taken.
        > 1. If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie
        > breaker.
        > 2. If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following
        > steps.
        >
        >
        > 1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
        > 2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the
        > conference.
        > 3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
        > 4. Strength of victory.
        > 5. Strength of schedule.
        > 6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and
        > points allowed.
        > 7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points
        > allowed.
        > 8. Best net points in conference games.
        > 9. Best net points in all games.
        > 10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
        > 11. Coin toss.
        >
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      • rockmaul74@aol.com
        brady 20 tds 2600 yards thru 11 games, with an entirely new recieving corps.....an off year? i guess he must have really sucked in 2003 when we went 14-2 and
        Message 3 of 7 , Dec 2, 2006
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          brady 20 tds 2600 yards thru 11 games, with an entirely new recieving corps.....an off year? i guess he must have really sucked in 2003 when we went 14-2 and won the superbowl and he only had 23 tds 3600 yards all year......btw, his play in that drive in fourth in the chicago game is the reason we won......i guess i'll take brady's off year
        • Don Diamant
          To be fair didn t our running backs gain over 3200 yards combined in 2003? That took away more than a few yards of Brady passing. Don _____ From:
          Message 4 of 7 , Dec 3, 2006
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            To be fair didn’t our running backs gain over 3200 yards combined in 2003?   That took away more than a few yards of Brady passing. 

             

            Don

             


            From: patriotzip@yahoogroups.com [mailto:patriotzip@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rockmaul74@...
            Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 12:12 AM
            To: patriotzip@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: Re: [patriotzip] RE: Playoff Tie-Breakers

             

            brady 20 tds 2600 yards thru 11 games, with an entirely new recieving corps.....an off year? i guess he must have really sucked in 2003 when we went 14-2 and won the superbowl and he only had 23 tds 3600 yards all year......btw, his play in that drive in fourth in the chicago game is the reason we won......i guess i'll take brady's off year

          • George
            ***** I m not calling for Brady s head. Never have. But I don t see how anybody can deny that the magic we ve seen from him throughout most of his career has
            Message 5 of 7 , Dec 3, 2006
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              ***** I'm not calling for Brady's head. Never have. But I don't see how anybody can deny that the "magic" we've seen from him throughout most of his career has not been there for most games this season. Sure, he's had a couple of great games, and few great drives. But he has been inconsistent, off target on most of his long passes, and making bad decisions under pressure much more than he has previously. I don't care about the "numbers". Tell me that you have the same level of confidence that he will make a play when we need it that you've had in past years.
               
              ***** That said, the physical skills, and football intelligence that Brady has displayed for the past 5 years do not just disappear. He is, IMO, the best QB in the NFL. That does not place him above criticism for sub par performance. The fact is that "par" for Tom Brady is much, much  better than it is for most NFL QBs. He has, IMO, played below the level of which he is capable thus far this season. And I do not accept the "new WRs" situation as an excuse for that. He has most certainly had less talented WR corps in past seasons, and STILL "made the magic".
               
              ***** It is now early December. It is now time for Brady, and the rest of our great team, to step up  and drive into the playoffs like the champions we know they are! Do I believe it will happen? YOU BET YOUR SWEET ASS I DO!
               
              ***** Rodney, Wilson, and Hobbs will get healthy, and return our secondary to it's maximum effectivity. Seymour's elbow will heal, and cease to limit his devastasting play. Brady WILL regain the confidence to make the right decision on nearly every pass play. Gabriel will grasp the meaning of being a citizen of the Patriot Nation. Jackson will grasp the meaning of playing with NFL, versus NCAA discipline on routes. When those things happen, and they will, we will drive to Lombardi Trophy #4!!
               

              Sawadee Khrap
              George



              From: patriotzip@yahoogroups.com [mailto:patriotzip@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Diamant
              Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 6:09 PM
              To: patriotzip@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: RE: [patriotzip] RE: Playoff Tie-Breakers

              To be fair didn’t our running backs gain over 3200 yards combined in 2003?   That took away more than a few yards of Brady passing. 

              Don


              From: patriotzip@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:patriotzip@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of rockmaul74@aol. com
              Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2006 12:12 AM
              To: patriotzip@yahoogro ups.com
              Subject: Re: [patriotzip] RE: Playoff Tie-Breakers

              brady 20 tds 2600 yards thru 11 games, with an entirely new recieving corps.....an off year? i guess he must have really sucked in 2003 when we went 14-2 and won the superbowl and he only had 23 tds 3600 yards all year......btw, his play in that drive in fourth in the chicago game is the reason we won......i guess i'll take brady's off year

            • rockmaul74@aol.com
              smith and faulk had a combined 1200 yards in 2003....brady carried the offense practically by himself.
              Message 6 of 7 , Dec 3, 2006
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                smith and faulk had a combined 1200 yards in 2003....brady carried the offense practically by himself.
              • Susan Moore
                You are right in that we play who we play AND that we should be able to win in any stadium at all. Certainly doesn t hurt that Denver lost last night, as well
                Message 7 of 7 , Dec 4, 2006
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                  You are right in that we play who we play AND that we should be able to win in any stadium at all.
                  Certainly doesn't hurt that Denver lost last night, as well as the Dolts and the Ravens on Thursday.
                  Right now it looks like the Colts aren't the rising team, but rather the Chargers. Four games are alot
                  to switch things around, so we might be able to squeak out home-field overall but it's a long-shot.
                   
                  Hope we do get some of those injuries back and that Brady has had his "off" season already and will
                  come out fighting again for the playoffs.
                   
                  ----- Original Message -----
                  From: George
                  Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 8:54 PM
                  Subject: [patriotzip] RE: Playoff Tie-Breakers

                  ***** We play who we play. If we can't beat a team in any stadium, then we
                  don't belong in the Super Bowl this year.

                  ***** Personally, I'm encouraged by the fact that Rodney will almost
                  certainly be back for the playoffs to help offset the loss of Junior.
                  Wilson's return, and the full healing of Hobbs and Seymour should also help.
                  There is also the possibility that Tully will follow the path of that other
                  "pass rush specialist" we had at OLB a few years ago. He's just about at the
                  point where Tedy began to show that he could be much, much more than that.


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