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  • George Richman
    I d like to present a new opinion poll for all members of this forum. The question is: which 3 players, *new *to the Patriots in this season, rookies or Free
    Message 1 of 9 , Jul 31, 2013
      I'd like to present a new opinion poll for all members of this forum. The question is: which 3 players, new to the Patriots in this season, rookies or Free Agents, will have the greatest impact on the team's performance? If there's enough interest in this, I'll keep a list of the opinions, and we can look at it in January, and see how we all did.

      Now, the challenge here is to define "greatest impact", a very subjective term. I'll give it my best shot. Here are the 2 primary criteria I'd set:
      1. PT - Playing Time. The player was either a starter for all or most of the season; or spent a significant amount of time on the field for all, or most of the games.
      2. BIG PLAYS - The player made several big plays (first downs, touchdowns, turnovers, 3rd down stops) in clutch situations throughout the season.

      I'm open to suggestions for additional criteria that can be easily identified by all of us; but I see those 2 as the most important to this competition. 

      DEADLINE FOR SUBMITTING ENTRIES IS August 15, with just 2 preseason games to use as your data base. You can submit or change names until 00:00 on August 15. 

      Clearly, we have plenty of players to pick from! To kick it off, here are the 3 I'm starting with:

      RB LaGarrette Blount
      WR Danny Amendola
      SS Adrian Wilson

      Gimmee 3, and I'll start a list!

      ---
      --- George




    • Ed Bryant
      I m going to count Ballard, who has never played a down for NE P.  I m going with Collins, who is more likely to have an impact than a position, and then I
      Message 2 of 9 , Jul 31, 2013
        I'm going to count Ballard, who has never played a down for NE P.  I'm going with Collins, who is more likely to have an impact than a position, and then I will go with Logan Ryan. 

        I mean no disrespect here to any future practice squaders. 



        From: George Richman <patswingr@...>
        To: patriotzip yahoogroups <patriotzip@yahoogroups.com>
        Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:59 AM
        Subject: [patriotzip] Top 3 Newcomers?

         
        I'd like to present a new opinion poll for all members of this forum. The question is: which 3 players, new to the Patriots in this season, rookies or Free Agents, will have the greatest impact on the team's performance? If there's enough interest in this, I'll keep a list of the opinions, and we can look at it in January, and see how we all did.

        Now, the challenge here is to define "greatest impact", a very subjective term. I'll give it my best shot. Here are the 2 primary criteria I'd set:
        1. PT - Playing Time. The player was either a starter for all or most of the season; or spent a significant amount of time on the field for all, or most of the games.
        2. BIG PLAYS - The player made several big plays (first downs, touchdowns, turnovers, 3rd down stops) in clutch situations throughout the season.

        I'm open to suggestions for additional criteria that can be easily identified by all of us; but I see those 2 as the most important to this competition. 

        DEADLINE FOR SUBMITTING ENTRIES IS August 15, with just 2 preseason games to use as your data base. You can submit or change names until 00:00 on August 15. 

        Clearly, we have plenty of players to pick from! To kick it off, here are the 3 I'm starting with:

        RB LaGarrette Blount
        WR Danny Amendola
        SS Adrian Wilson

        Gimmee 3, and I'll start a list!

        ---
        --- George






      • George Richman
        OK, Ed. I can start a list now! :-) --
        Message 3 of 9 , Jul 31, 2013
          OK, Ed. I can start a list now! :-)
          --
          --- George



          On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Ed Bryant <edbryant36@...> wrote:
           

          I'm going to count Ballard, who has never played a down for NE P.  I'm going with Collins, who is more likely to have an impact than a position, and then I will go with Logan Ryan. 

          I mean no disrespect here to any future practice squaders. 



          From: George Richman <patswingr@...>
          To: patriotzip yahoogroups <patriotzip@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:59 AM
          Subject: [patriotzip] Top 3 Newcomers?

           
          I'd like to present a new opinion poll for all members of this forum. The question is: which 3 players, new to the Patriots in this season, rookies or Free Agents, will have the greatest impact on the team's performance? If there's enough interest in this, I'll keep a list of the opinions, and we can look at it in January, and see how we all did.

          Now, the challenge here is to define "greatest impact", a very subjective term. I'll give it my best shot. Here are the 2 primary criteria I'd set:
          1. PT - Playing Time. The player was either a starter for all or most of the season; or spent a significant amount of time on the field for all, or most of the games.
          2. BIG PLAYS - The player made several big plays (first downs, touchdowns, turnovers, 3rd down stops) in clutch situations throughout the season.

          I'm open to suggestions for additional criteria that can be easily identified by all of us; but I see those 2 as the most important to this competition. 

          DEADLINE FOR SUBMITTING ENTRIES IS August 15, with just 2 preseason games to use as your data base. You can submit or change names until 00:00 on August 15. 

          Clearly, we have plenty of players to pick from! To kick it off, here are the 3 I'm starting with:

          RB LaGarrette Blount
          WR Danny Amendola
          SS Adrian Wilson

          Gimmee 3, and I'll start a list!

          ---
          --- George







        • Mark Morse
          My Top 3 Newcomers are all WRs.  Danny Amendola, Aaron Dobson and  Josh Boyce .  Collins is not going to have the impact these three will have.  We should
          Message 4 of 9 , Jul 31, 2013
            My Top 3 Newcomers are all WRs.  Danny Amendola, Aaron Dobson and  Josh Boyce .  Collins is not going to have the impact these three will have.  We should see some highlights out of  Collins, but he is a specialist (unless one of the starting three LBs gets hurt).  Much of the success of the team depends on these three players coming through in the passing game.  Look out for UDFA rookie Kendrell Thompkins as well.  He has an uncanny knack of avoiding the jam at the LOS and getting open quickly.  That sideline pass that Brady use to throw to Lloyd (and he would fall down) will be a big play with Thompkins.
             
            Mark Morse Razor's Edge Tailgate Patriots Fangroup
            http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/RazorsEdgeTailgate/

            From: George Richman <patswingr@...>
            To: patriotzip yahoogroups <patriotzip@yahoogroups.com>
            Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:59 AM
            Subject: [patriotzip] Top 3 Newcomers?
             
            I'd like to present a new opinion poll for all members of this forum. The question is: which 3 players, new to the Patriots in this season, rookies or Free Agents, will have the greatest impact on the team's performance? If there's enough interest in this, I'll keep a list of the opinions, and we can look at it in January, and see how we all did.

            Now, the challenge here is to define "greatest impact", a very subjective term. I'll give it my best shot. Here are the 2 primary criteria I'd set:
            1. PT - Playing Time. The player was either a starter for all or most of the season; or spent a significant amount of time on the field for all, or most of the games.
            2. BIG PLAYS - The player made several big plays (first downs, touchdowns, turnovers, 3rd down stops) in clutch situations throughout the season.

            I'm open to suggestions for additional criteria that can be easily identified by all of us; but I see those 2 as the most important to this competition. 

            DEADLINE FOR SUBMITTING ENTRIES IS August 15, with just 2 preseason games to use as your data base. You can submit or change names until 00:00 on August 15. 

            Clearly, we have plenty of players to pick from! To kick it off, here are the 3 I'm starting with:

            RB LaGarrette Blount
            WR Danny Amendola
            SS Adrian Wilson

            Gimmee 3, and I'll start a list!

            ---
            --- George




          • frankdanabrewster
            Since we have until August 15th, I reserve the right to edit my entries. :o) To me, Amendola is a given (barring injury). But, I will bravely (or foolishly)
            Message 5 of 9 , Jul 31, 2013
              Since we have until August 15th, I reserve the right to edit my entries. :o)

              To me, Amendola is a given (barring injury). But, I will bravely (or foolishly) go out on a limb for the other two.

              Zach Sudfeld
              Steve Beauharnais

              Now watch both be gone after first cut-down...

              fdb

              --- In patriotzip@yahoogroups.com, George Richman <patswingr@...> wrote:
              >
              > I'd like to present a new opinion poll for all members of this forum. The
              > question is: which 3 players, *new *to the Patriots in this season, rookies
              > or Free Agents, will have the greatest impact on the team's performance? If
              > there's enough interest in this, I'll keep a list of the opinions, and we
              > can look at it in January, and see how we all did.
              >
              > Now, the challenge here is to define "greatest impact", a very subjective
              > term. I'll give it my best shot. Here are the 2 primary criteria I'd set:
              > 1. PT - Playing Time. The player was either a starter for all or most of
              > the season; or spent a significant amount of time on the field for all, or
              > most of the games.
              > 2. BIG PLAYS - The player made several big plays (first downs, touchdowns,
              > turnovers, 3rd down stops) in clutch situations throughout the season.
              >
              > I'm open to suggestions for additional criteria that can be easily
              > identified by all of us; but I see those 2 as the most important to this
              > competition.
              >
              > DEADLINE FOR SUBMITTING ENTRIES IS August 15, with just 2 preseason games
              > to use as your data base. You can submit or change names until 00:00 on
              > August 15.
              >
              > Clearly, we have plenty of players to pick from! To kick it off, here are
              > the 3 I'm starting with:
              >
              > RB LaGarrette Blount
              > WR Danny Amendola
              > SS Adrian Wilson
              >
              > Gimmee 3, and I'll start a list!
              >
              > ---
              > --- George
              >
            • George Richman
              I agree with you on Collins. I m just hoping that, in he is as effective as I think he can be in his situational appearances. As for Dobson, Boyce, and
              Message 6 of 9 , Jul 31, 2013
                I agree with you on Collins. I'm just hoping that, in he is as effective as I think he can be in his situational appearances. As for Dobson, Boyce, and Thompkins; I have high hopes for them, as well. But I left them out of my top 3 because I'm going with the rookie receiver theory. I look for Blount to return to his rookie form behind the Patriots' experienced OL. And I expect Wilson to give it his all for a team that has a good shot at playoffs, and possibly more. He's still got 2-3 top seasons in him, I believe. 
                --
                --- George


                On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 11:02 PM, Mark Morse <packy001@...> wrote:
                 

                My Top 3 Newcomers are all WRs.  Danny Amendola, Aaron Dobson and  Josh Boyce .  Collins is not going to have the impact these three will have.  We should see some highlights out of  Collins, but he is a specialist (unless one of the starting three LBs gets hurt).  Much of the success of the team depends on these three players coming through in the passing game.  Look out for UDFA rookie Kendrell Thompkins as well.  He has an uncanny knack of avoiding the jam at the LOS and getting open quickly.  That sideline pass that Brady use to throw to Lloyd (and he would fall down) will be a big play with Thompkins.
                 
                Mark MorseRazor's Edge Tailgate Patriots Fangroup
                http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/RazorsEdgeTailgate/

                From: George Richman <patswingr@...>
                To: patriotzip yahoogroups <patriotzip@yahoogroups.com>
                Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 7:59 AM
                Subject: [patriotzip] Top 3 Newcomers?
                 
                I'd like to present a new opinion poll for all members of this forum. The question is: which 3 players, new to the Patriots in this season, rookies or Free Agents, will have the greatest impact on the team's performance? If there's enough interest in this, I'll keep a list of the opinions, and we can look at it in January, and see how we all did.

                Now, the challenge here is to define "greatest impact", a very subjective term. I'll give it my best shot. Here are the 2 primary criteria I'd set:
                1. PT - Playing Time. The player was either a starter for all or most of the season; or spent a significant amount of time on the field for all, or most of the games.
                2. BIG PLAYS - The player made several big plays (first downs, touchdowns, turnovers, 3rd down stops) in clutch situations throughout the season.

                I'm open to suggestions for additional criteria that can be easily identified by all of us; but I see those 2 as the most important to this competition. 

                DEADLINE FOR SUBMITTING ENTRIES IS August 15, with just 2 preseason games to use as your data base. You can submit or change names until 00:00 on August 15. 

                Clearly, we have plenty of players to pick from! To kick it off, here are the 3 I'm starting with:

                RB LaGarrette Blount
                WR Danny Amendola
                SS Adrian Wilson

                Gimmee 3, and I'll start a list!

                ---
                --- George





              • George Richman
                Well, Frank, that IS going out on a limb. Assuming that Gronk is back early in the season, I don t see Sudfeld, or any other TE, being a major factor this
                Message 7 of 9 , Jul 31, 2013
                  Well, Frank, that IS going out on a limb. Assuming that Gronk is back early in the season, I don't see Sudfeld, or any other TE, being a major factor this season. As for Beauharnais, he's got too much talent in front of him to be a major factor. He'll be lucky to make the opening day roster, IMO.
                  --
                  --- George
                  Still a US citizen. Just not proud of it anymore. 


                  On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 11:45 PM, frankdanabrewster <frank.dana@...> wrote:
                   

                  Since we have until August 15th, I reserve the right to edit my entries. :o)

                  To me, Amendola is a given (barring injury). But, I will bravely (or foolishly) go out on a limb for the other two.

                  Zach Sudfeld
                  Steve Beauharnais

                  Now watch both be gone after first cut-down...

                  fdb

                  --- In patriotzip@yahoogroups.com, George Richman <patswingr@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > I'd like to present a new opinion poll for all members of this forum. The
                  > question is: which 3 players, *new *to the Patriots in this season, rookies
                  > or Free Agents, will have the greatest impact on the team's performance? If
                  > there's enough interest in this, I'll keep a list of the opinions, and we
                  > can look at it in January, and see how we all did.
                  >
                  > Now, the challenge here is to define "greatest impact", a very subjective
                  > term. I'll give it my best shot. Here are the 2 primary criteria I'd set:
                  > 1. PT - Playing Time. The player was either a starter for all or most of
                  > the season; or spent a significant amount of time on the field for all, or
                  > most of the games.
                  > 2. BIG PLAYS - The player made several big plays (first downs, touchdowns,
                  > turnovers, 3rd down stops) in clutch situations throughout the season.
                  >
                  > I'm open to suggestions for additional criteria that can be easily
                  > identified by all of us; but I see those 2 as the most important to this
                  > competition.
                  >
                  > DEADLINE FOR SUBMITTING ENTRIES IS August 15, with just 2 preseason games
                  > to use as your data base. You can submit or change names until 00:00 on
                  > August 15.
                  >
                  > Clearly, we have plenty of players to pick from! To kick it off, here are
                  > the 3 I'm starting with:
                  >
                  > RB LaGarrette Blount
                  > WR Danny Amendola
                  > SS Adrian Wilson
                  >
                  > Gimmee 3, and I'll start a list!
                  >
                  > ---
                  > --- George
                  >


                • frankdanabrewster
                  Sudfeld will become the new Hernandez (on the field, that is), and Beauharnais will be channeling Bruschi (he picked Brady in the end zone yesterday). Yes,
                  Message 8 of 9 , Aug 2, 2013
                    Sudfeld will become the new Hernandez (on the field, that is), and Beauharnais will be channeling Bruschi (he picked Brady in the end zone yesterday).

                    Yes, that is all hyperbole, and will probably not happen, but I'm going to run with it just for fun... :D

                    fdb

                    --- In patriotzip@yahoogroups.com, George Richman <patswingr@...> wrote:
                    >
                    > Well, Frank, that IS going out on a limb. Assuming that Gronk is back early
                    > in the season, I don't see Sudfeld, or any other TE, being a major factor
                    > this season. As for Beauharnais, he's got too much talent in front of him
                    > to be a major factor. He'll be lucky to make the opening day roster, IMO.
                    > --
                    > --- George
                    > Still a US citizen. Just not proud of it anymore.
                    >
                    >
                    > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 11:45 PM, frankdanabrewster
                    > <frank.dana@...>wrote:
                    >
                    > > **
                    > >
                    > >
                    > > Since we have until August 15th, I reserve the right to edit my entries.
                    > > :o)
                    > >
                    > > To me, Amendola is a given (barring injury). But, I will bravely (or
                    > > foolishly) go out on a limb for the other two.
                    > >
                    > > Zach Sudfeld
                    > > Steve Beauharnais
                    > >
                    > > Now watch both be gone after first cut-down...
                    > >
                    > > fdb
                    > >
                    > > --- In patriotzip@yahoogroups.com, George Richman <patswingr@> wrote:
                    > > >
                    > > > I'd like to present a new opinion poll for all members of this forum. The
                    > > > question is: which 3 players, *new *to the Patriots in this season,
                    > > rookies
                    > > > or Free Agents, will have the greatest impact on the team's performance?
                    > > If
                    > > > there's enough interest in this, I'll keep a list of the opinions, and we
                    > > > can look at it in January, and see how we all did.
                    > > >
                    > > > Now, the challenge here is to define "greatest impact", a very subjective
                    > > > term. I'll give it my best shot. Here are the 2 primary criteria I'd set:
                    > > > 1. PT - Playing Time. The player was either a starter for all or most of
                    > > > the season; or spent a significant amount of time on the field for all,
                    > > or
                    > > > most of the games.
                    > > > 2. BIG PLAYS - The player made several big plays (first downs,
                    > > touchdowns,
                    > > > turnovers, 3rd down stops) in clutch situations throughout the season.
                    > > >
                    > > > I'm open to suggestions for additional criteria that can be easily
                    > > > identified by all of us; but I see those 2 as the most important to this
                    > > > competition.
                    > > >
                    > > > DEADLINE FOR SUBMITTING ENTRIES IS August 15, with just 2 preseason games
                    > > > to use as your data base. You can submit or change names until 00:00 on
                    > > > August 15.
                    > > >
                    > > > Clearly, we have plenty of players to pick from! To kick it off, here are
                    > > > the 3 I'm starting with:
                    > > >
                    > > > RB LaGarrette Blount
                    > > > WR Danny Amendola
                    > > > SS Adrian Wilson
                    > > >
                    > > > Gimmee 3, and I'll start a list!
                    > > >
                    > > > ---
                    > > > --- George
                    > > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    > >
                    >
                  • frankdanabrewster
                    OK, it s the 15th. I ll post my final names now. LOL! I m sticking with Amendola. All reports are that the mind-meld with Brady is well underway. If he stays
                    Message 9 of 9 , Aug 15, 2013
                      OK, it's the 15th. I'll post my final names now. LOL!

                      I'm sticking with Amendola. All reports are that the mind-meld with Brady is well underway. If he stays healthy, he should become the security blanket (and chain mover) that Welker was, with greater speed.

                      I'm also sticking with Sudfeld. He continues to be reported on positively every practice; one reporter referring to the "legend of Sudfeld". Good speed (for a TE), great hands, smart, great body control, gets open. Could be as unique a talent as Gronk and the former TE who will not be named.

                      I think Beauharnais will be a good player, but OK, I'll back away from the '3 top newcomers' description. The third one is difficult. Thompkins seems to be exceeding everyone's expectations. Blount appears to be ready to replace Bolden as the power back. Collins has been explosive at times. Benard and Forston have also shown flashes.

                      But, I have to stay out on a limb with one of these three. I'm going with a grizzled vet – Tommy Kelly. He has skills, experience, attitude, and a chip the size of Oakland on his shoulder. Sitting next to Vince in a 4-3 should make the middle nearly impenetrable, and give the DEs and OLBs ample opportunity to bring some heat. If guys like Jones and Collins have big years 'visiting' QBs, and opposing runners are held in check, I'll bet we can look at the combo of Wilfork and Kelly as being a big part of it.

                      fdb



                      --- In patriotzip@yahoogroups.com, "frankdanabrewster" <frank.dana@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > Since we have until August 15th, I reserve the right to edit my entries. :o)
                      >
                      > To me, Amendola is a given (barring injury). But, I will bravely (or foolishly) go out on a limb for the other two.
                      >
                      > Zach Sudfeld
                      > Steve Beauharnais
                      >
                      > Now watch both be gone after first cut-down...
                      >
                      > fdb
                      >
                      > --- In patriotzip@yahoogroups.com, George Richman <patswingr@> wrote:
                      > >
                      > > I'd like to present a new opinion poll for all members of this forum. The
                      > > question is: which 3 players, *new *to the Patriots in this season, rookies
                      > > or Free Agents, will have the greatest impact on the team's performance? If
                      > > there's enough interest in this, I'll keep a list of the opinions, and we
                      > > can look at it in January, and see how we all did.
                      > >
                      > > Now, the challenge here is to define "greatest impact", a very subjective
                      > > term. I'll give it my best shot. Here are the 2 primary criteria I'd set:
                      > > 1. PT - Playing Time. The player was either a starter for all or most of
                      > > the season; or spent a significant amount of time on the field for all, or
                      > > most of the games.
                      > > 2. BIG PLAYS - The player made several big plays (first downs, touchdowns,
                      > > turnovers, 3rd down stops) in clutch situations throughout the season.
                      > >
                      > > I'm open to suggestions for additional criteria that can be easily
                      > > identified by all of us; but I see those 2 as the most important to this
                      > > competition.
                      > >
                      > > DEADLINE FOR SUBMITTING ENTRIES IS August 15, with just 2 preseason games
                      > > to use as your data base. You can submit or change names until 00:00 on
                      > > August 15.
                      > >
                      > > Clearly, we have plenty of players to pick from! To kick it off, here are
                      > > the 3 I'm starting with:
                      > >
                      > > RB LaGarrette Blount
                      > > WR Danny Amendola
                      > > SS Adrian Wilson
                      > >
                      > > Gimmee 3, and I'll start a list!
                      > >
                      > > ---
                      > > --- George
                      > >
                      >
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