Re: BountyGate to dwarf Spygate
- This could get much uglier. I find it hard to believe that only 1 of 32 teams were engaging in this activity. Depending upon the depth of the investigation, and the number of whistle blowers, this could be more widespread.
Worse than 'Spygate'? Only about 10 times worse. Collecting unknown signals for later analysis is nothing compared to incentivizing physical injury to players. If Williams was indeed active or complicit, he should be banned from the NFL for life. Not sure how the players should be handled. Probably depends upon how involved they were. The team needs to be heavily sanctioned as well.
Interesting to follow where this leads...
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, George Richman <patswingr@...> wrote:
> I can only say that this really saddens me, because it paints such a
> negative picture of the sport I've loved for most of my life. This is so
> far from the sportsmanship that should always be the centerpiece of every
> sport that it must be treated with the strongest possible punishment. As
> you said, Mark, it truly does dwarf "Spygate", which most have acknowledged
> as a practice that really had no significant outcome on the games, and
> certainly had nothing to do with trying to injure opponents. This was
> essentially the sports world equivalent of a violation of the Geneva
> Conventions in the "real world". Very, very sad.
> Shame on the whole Saints organization; as there can be no doubt that
> something like this had to be known by everyone who is/was closely
> associated with the team.
> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 5:13 AM, Mark Morse <packy001@...> wrote:
> > **
> > NFL released a statement this afternoon that the NO Saints were paid
> > Bounties on players they knocked out of games between 2009 and 2011. The
> > Saints were told to stop this and owner Tom Benson instructed GM Mickey
> > Loomis to put and end to this. DC Gregg Williams was behind this pay for
> > hits on key players such as Brett Favre and Kurt Warner.
> > This will be a new definition of Hammer Time ... Goodell has backed
> > himself into a corner with the heavy fine and forfeiture of #1 draft pick
> > verdict against the Pats for spygate. Your looking at heavy fines,
> > suspensions of players and coaches and loss of draft pick(s). Wouldn't be
> > surprised if Loomis loses his job over this. Benson may fire him for not
> > following through on his order to make it stop.
> > Interesting that Goodel is working with the NFLPA on this, which I think
> > means player suspemsions as well. During the NFCCG Jonathan Vilma
> > reportedly threw 10K on the table for the person that knocked Bret Favre
> > out of the game.
> > Mark Morse
> > Razor's Edge Tailgate Patriots Fangroup
> > http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/RazorsEdgeTailgate/
> George - I support Newt Gingrich for President!
> I stand by my personal belief that the foundation of the American way of
> life is made of two primary elements: individual freedom and individual
> responsibility. Newt Gingrich has the combination of intelligence,
> experience, and patriotism required to strengthen that foundation.
> George Richman
> Nongprue, Thailand
> (Expat and Vietnam veteran)