Re: [patriotzip] Frustrating Loss
- I see what you both are saying, but it's SO hard when it hurts this much. Remember 4 years ago we had that Jan Smyth on here pretending to be a Pats fan but shoving the victory down our throats? That was hard to take until Randy gave her the boot.The players are devasted, the coach is devasted, the fans are too and while I realize it's good sportsmanship to shake hands or hug, it's really hard for me to come to grips with it right now.I saw the coaches hug, but did TB shake with Eli? I didn't see that and TB was really struggling to hold things together on the podium.----- Original Message -----From: Mike BensonSent: Monday, February 06, 2012 10:01 AMSubject: Re: [patriotzip] Frustrating LossWTF? Kick you when you're down? Then I'd be kicking myself too, wouldn't I? Sheesh, Don. Try being magnanimous in defeat for a change. Try being sportsmanlike. It feels good.
From: Don Diamant <jeepndd@...>
Sent: Monday, February 6, 2012 12:56 PM
Subject: RE: [patriotzip] Frustrating LossThanks Mike, we can always count on you, in the spirit of good sportsmanship, to kick us when we’re down. You’re right on queue again.Don
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Subject: Re: [patriotzip] Frustrating LossIn the spirit of good sportsmanship, congratulations to the Giants on their fourth Super Bowl Championship. What a game. It was like watching an instant replay of our last Super Bowl with them. Or even our regular season game against them this year. They keep it close, then they come down the field at the end of the game and take it away from us, leaving us virtually no time to take it back. This time Manning drove the Giants 88 yards and even managed to channel his magic David Tyree moment of 2008 with a brilliant 38-yard pass to Mario Manningham. I knew it was over after that play. But the karma seemed to have been set in place when the safety occurred early in the game. Or maybe the karma was set in place back in place in 2007 with the video-gate scandal — because we have not been able to win a Super Bowl since then. In any case, the Giants really have our number. And they're a great team.
From: Mark Morse <packy001@...>
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Sent: Monday, February 6, 2012 9:54 AM
Subject: [patriotzip] Frustrating LossWhat could have been ... What should have been ... I don't know what is more frustrating, the fact that so many of Eli Mannings passes were thrown high and his receivers (especially Hakeem Nicks) were making spectacular grabs or Tom Brady was so out of rythym, missing wide open receivers (Wes Welker is beating himself up over not making the catch) or throwing behind receivers (Branch twice) and not leading the reciever or just flat out underthrowing a wide open Gromkowski that led to a crucual INT. I know our defense is not great, but they played their asses off. The stupid play calling that led to a safety (the actual difference in the game) and then the short field after the punt. They just were not ready to start the game! This has happened all year and we said it would bite us in the ass in the playoffs and it did yesterday. Twelve men on the field when you get a turnover to stop them ... Unbelieveable lack of discipline. Bama brought it up earlier ... lack of fundermentals of how to cover a fumble! That is one thing Coach Coconuts (Ray Berry) would practice all the time.I think the most disturbing thing here is the Patriots lack of ability to throw deep. This isn't about receivers too slow to go deep, this is strictly about Tom Brady. He can't throw deep. Don't bother getting a big receiver that can stretch the field. Brady can't get him the ball. That is how the Giants beat the Pats, they packed the 20yards from the LOS with 7 defenders and never had to worry about the deep sideline, seam or middle passes. They rushed only 4 because Brady isn't going anywhere. Perhaps its time to start looking at Tom Brady and correcting the faults he has. If his arm is hurt, get it fixed. Tom has to re-dedicate himself to Football they way he use to, because he is just not that gifted an athlete to overcome his shortfalls. He needs to get back into the gym and offseason workouts. get it fixed or the team will have to start looking in another direction. This was all on Tom Brady's shoulders.Mark Morse Razor's Edge Tailgate Patriots Fangroup http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/RazorsEdgeTailgate/
- I disagree on Branch. He knows the system and has Brady's trust. He can be brought back at a lower salary. Free Agent Brandon Lloyd has stated publicly that he would like to follow McDaniels wherever he goes. That would be a big time receiver that also knows McDaniels system.Mark Morse Razor's Edge Tailgate Patriots Fangroup http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/RazorsEdgeTailgate/From: David Price <castsashadow@...>
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Sent: Monday, February 6, 2012 10:30 PM
Subject: [patriotzip] Offseason moves?
Two guys who I don't think should be back next year are Ochocinco and Deon Branch. Neither reciever helped us win games this year. I think Branch had one good game, but that's not good enough, and his time is past. The Pats need a legitimate threat as the number two receiver and Deon is no longer that. As for Ochocinco, we got more production from Brandon Tate last year, so what does that tell you? I wouldn't mind if they developed a rookie as the third receiver, but with Tate and Price already gone, looks like they'd be starting over, yet again. On defense, I think they need help at safety more than anywhere else. Be nice to have a leader back there again, like Rodney Harrison.
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