Re: This season hasn't begun yet.
Remind me again. Was it Indy that beat the Patriots 59-0?
The Saints haven't had the luxury of a close game unless you count the 28-23 win over the Rams. The 2007 New England Patriots managed four close games, but were still vulnerable come February.
Indy has played almost nothing but close games and will be battle-tested, but are they not less likely to get to February than the Saints are? The NFC seems to have two teams head and shoulders above the rest, and between them, they have only lost to Pittsburgh, one of several teams which could follow Tennessee's example by beating Indy physically and playing 60 minutes. You heard it here first: Tennessee goes over 225 on the ground next Sunday and takes the Colts down.
We need better angles if we hope to tackle the Saints next time, though. At times tonight, it looked like eleven James Sanders, taking geometry for the fourth time, and still flunking!
--- On Mon, 11/30/09, George <patswingr@...> wrote:
From: George <patswingr@...>
Subject: [patriotzip] Are You Ready?
Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 11:25 PM
For next season?
I don't know about you, but, as I've said today, I'm convinced that the Patriots are not in the same class with either the Colts or Saints this season. The rest of their games in the regular season, with the exception of the always unpredictable Week 17 game against the Texans, are against poor teams. They won't prove a thing. I've seen all I need to see to know that this season will end for the Patriots at some time during the AFC Playoffs.
During the off-season, they need to solidify as a defense, and get a real Offensive Coordinator, whether it's Charlie Weis or somebody else. The "OC in training" crap clearly didn't work.
If there weren't two truly exceptional teams this year, the Patriots might have a shot. They're in the same class with all of the other teams, IMO. They could beat the Chargers, Bengals, or any other AFC team. They could also lose to them. But there's no way they get past the Colts in the AFC unless Manning gets injured.
It's a damn shame that the Giants had that miracle play against them 2 years ago. We should have won that Super Bowl. Now, we are so far removed from winning one that it's no longer appropriate to refer to the team as "the Super Bowl winning Patriots". That's ancient history now, by NFL standards. Just look at our roster. Most of the players from those championship teams are long gone.
- I'm with David not George in that we played with the AFC teams including the Colts...outplayed them for most of the
game and so I do not for a moment think the season is over nro the second season. Winning out and performing well will
teach me many things based on how we do it. I'm not throwing out last night though it was the Saints best game and one
of our worst. I think we have severe problems and I do share the notion that they Dynasty Days are Done - that doesn't
mean we can't become a Champion though there's much to grow and show if we have any real chance of being there in
- Randy, I'm not convinced either that a championship is out of reach. Lest we forget in 2001 the Rams smucked the Pats in the regular season, but the Superbowl was another story wasn't it? Of course there were more weeks in the season for the team to grow at that point, but we can't completely give up on them. Drew Brees was perfect. You just can't coach that. He was awesome. He's a great quarterback, but nobody is that good week in and week out. This Patriots team still matches up well with the rest of the AFC. "Get to the tournament, then anything can happen," isn't that what Parcells used to say. In 2007, our beloved Patriots were nearly unstoppable. Nearly. A team they beat in the regular season took them down in the Superbowl. These things happen.
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> Subject: Re: [patriotzip] Are You Ready?
> I'm with David not George in that we played with the AFC teams including the Colts...outplayed them for most of the
> game and so I do not for a moment think the season is over nro the second season. Winning out and performing well will
> teach me many things based on how we do it. I'm not throwing out last night though it was the Saints best game and one
> of our worst. I think we have severe problems and I do share the notion that they Dynasty Days are Done - that doesn't
> mean we can't become a Champion though there's much to grow and show if we have any real chance of being there in
> Go Pats!
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