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  • George
    ... Matthew Slater. This kid Edelman has GOT to make the team. Slater s spot is clearly the one he s in line for. George
    Message 1 of 9 , Aug 13, 2009
      Clear Day

      ... Matthew Slater. This kid Edelman has GOT to make the team. Slater's spot is clearly the one he's in line for.

       

      George

       
    • Don Diamant
      I got the opportunity to spend a couple of days at training camp this year. Edelman appears to be the real deal and he ll play special teams as well. He seems
      Message 2 of 9 , Aug 13, 2009

        I got the opportunity to spend a couple of days at training camp this year.  Edelman appears to be the real deal and he’ll play special teams as well.  He seems to have good hands, good vision, and he is fast.  This kid is the future for special teams return specialist and I expect an up and coming WR as well.  We’ve got a lot of good young talent added to this team this year.  Some of last years crop of rookies appear poised to have a break out year as well.  I’m very optimistic on our young talent.

         

         

         

        Don

         


        From: patriotzip@yahoogroups.com [mailto:patriotzip@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of George
        Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:29 PM
        To: 'Zip List'
        Subject: [patriotzip] Goodbye ...

         

         

        ... Matthew Slater. This kid Edelman has GOT to make the team. Slater's spot is clearly the one he's in line for.

         

        George

         

      • Ed Bryant
        I was disappointed.  I heard Randy and Don would be doing the TV last night, but when I turned it on, it was two other guys, one of whom was assigned to play
        Message 3 of 9 , Aug 14, 2009
          I was disappointed.  I heard Randy and Don would be doing the TV last night, but when I turned it on, it was two other guys, one of whom was assigned to play by play, and yet couldn't name a receiver despite five replays (it was the kid from Georgia, Gibson, and Criqui never did give him a first name. Robert or Jonathan Kraft picks the preseason announcers, and I like Randy Cross, but why not have someone who can say the down and distance and the name of the receiver, the defender, and so on?  Plus, when Criqui did name a tackler, if three Pats participated, he credited the wrong one, time after time.

          On a nearly unrelated topic, Tom Brady will wear a 50 on his shoulder all season.  I take heart in this.  First, Michael Vick signs with the Eagles, so we know he won't be on our team, and second, if Brady has to wear a 50 badge, we can be pretty sure we won't be signing Barry Bonds, because NE P will not let him wear 73!!! 



          --- On Thu, 8/13/09, Don Diamant <jeepndd@...> wrote:

          From: Don Diamant <jeepndd@...>
          Subject: RE: [patriotzip] Goodbye ...
          To: patriotzip@yahoogroups.com
          Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 8:42 PM

           

          I got the opportunity to spend a couple of days at training camp this year.  Edelman appears to be the real deal and he’ll play special teams as well.  He seems to have good hands, good vision, and he is fast.  This kid is the future for special teams return specialist and I expect an up and coming WR as well.  We’ve got a lot of good young talent added to this team this year.  Some of last years crop of rookies appear poised to have a break out year as well.  I’m very optimistic on our young talent.

           

           

           

          Don

           


          From: patriotzip@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:patriotzip@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of George
          Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:29 PM
          To: 'Zip List'
          Subject: [patriotzip] Goodbye ...

           

           

          ... Matthew Slater. This kid Edelman has GOT to make the team. Slater's spot is clearly the one he's in line for.

           

          George

           

        • George
          All of the information on key players during plays is fed to the announcers by spotters , Ed. So those are the guys you have to blame for most of that. Unless
          Message 4 of 9 , Aug 14, 2009
            All of the information on key players during plays is fed to the announcers by "spotters", Ed. So those are the guys you have to blame for most of that. Unless they're too damn cheap to pay for spotters in pre-season game. If that was the case, then the announcers were literally not experienced at trying to do it themselves.  The announcers are too busy to put glasses on the play, so they can't usually see the numbers.
             

            George

             


            From: patriotzip@yahoogroups.com [mailto:patriotzip@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ed Bryant
            Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 6:12 PM
            To: patriotzip@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: RE: [patriotzip] Goodbye ...

            I was disappointed.  I heard Randy and Don would be doing the TV last night, but when I turned it on, it was two other guys, one of whom was assigned to play by play, and yet couldn't name a receiver despite five replays (it was the kid from Georgia, Gibson, and Criqui never did give him a first name. Robert or Jonathan Kraft picks the preseason announcers, and I like Randy Cross, but why not have someone who can say the down and distance and the name of the receiver, the defender, and so on?  Plus, when Criqui did name a tackler, if three Pats participated, he credited the wrong one, time after time.

            On a nearly unrelated topic, Tom Brady will wear a 50 on his shoulder all season.  I take heart in this.  First, Michael Vick signs with the Eagles, so we know he won't be on our team, and second, if Brady has to wear a 50 badge, we can be pretty sure we won't be signing Barry Bonds, because NE P will not let him wear 73!!! 



            --- On Thu, 8/13/09, Don Diamant <jeepndd@...> wrote:

            From: Don Diamant <jeepndd@...>
            Subject: RE: [patriotzip] Goodbye ...
            To: patriotzip@yahoogroups.com
            Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 8:42 PM

             

            I got the opportunity to spend a couple of days at training camp this year.  Edelman appears to be the real deal and he’ll play special teams as well.  He seems to have good hands, good vision, and he is fast.  This kid is the future for special teams return specialist and I expect an up and coming WR as well.  We’ve got a lot of good young talent added to this team this year.  Some of last years crop of rookies appear poised to have a break out year as well.  I’m very optimistic on our young talent.

             

             

             

            Don

             


            From: patriotzip@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:patriotzip@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of George
            Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:29 PM
            To: 'Zip List'
            Subject: [patriotzip] Goodbye ...

             

             

            ... Matthew Slater. This kid Edelman has GOT to make the team. Slater's spot is clearly the one he's in line for.

             

            George

             

          • sean carmichael
            the 50 is for the 50th anniversary of the original  AFL teams ... From: Ed Bryant Subject: RE: [patriotzip] Goodbye ... To:
            Message 5 of 9 , Aug 14, 2009
              the 50 is for the 50th anniversary of the original  AFL teams

              --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Ed Bryant <edbryant36@...> wrote:

              From: Ed Bryant <edbryant36@...>
              Subject: RE: [patriotzip] Goodbye ....
              To: patriotzip@yahoogroups.com
              Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:12 AM

              I was disappointed.  I heard Randy and Don would be doing the TV last night, but when I turned it on, it was two other guys, one of whom was assigned to play by play, and yet couldn't name a receiver despite five replays (it was the kid from Georgia, Gibson, and Criqui never did give him a first name. Robert or Jonathan Kraft picks the preseason announcers, and I like Randy Cross, but why not have someone who can say the down and distance and the name of the receiver, the defender, and so on?  Plus, when Criqui did name a tackler, if three Pats participated, he credited the wrong one, time after time.

              On a nearly unrelated topic, Tom Brady will wear a 50 on his shoulder all season.  I take heart in this.  First, Michael Vick signs with the Eagles, so we know he won't be on our team, and second, if Brady has to wear a 50 badge, we can be pretty sure we won't be signing Barry Bonds, because NE P will not let him wear 73!!! 



              --- On Thu, 8/13/09, Don Diamant <jeepndd@...> wrote:

              From: Don Diamant <jeepndd@...>
              Subject: RE: [patriotzip] Goodbye ...
              To: patriotzip@yahoogroups.com
              Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 8:42 PM

               

              I got the opportunity to spend a couple of days at training camp this year.  Edelman appears to be the real deal and he’ll play special teams as well.  He seems to have good hands, good vision, and he is fast.  This kid is the future for special teams return specialist and I expect an up and coming WR as well.  We’ve got a lot of good young talent added to this team this year.  Some of last years crop of rookies appear poised to have a break out year as well.  I’m very optimistic on our young talent.

               

               

               

              Don

               


              From: patriotzip@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:patriotzip@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of George
              Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:29 PM
              To: 'Zip List'
              Subject: [patriotzip] Goodbye ...

               

               

              ... Matthew Slater.. This kid Edelman has GOT to make the team. Slater's spot is clearly the one he's in line for.

               

              George

               


            • Ed Bryant
              That s what they told you!  He actually misses Vrabel, and I made the story up about throwing fifty TD s passes last year.  He actuall threw 0! ... From:
              Message 6 of 9 , Aug 14, 2009
                That's what they told you!  He actually misses Vrabel, and I made the story up about throwing fifty TD's passes last year.  He actuall threw 0!


                --- On Fri, 8/14/09, sean carmichael <ozzrvd666@...> wrote:

                From: sean carmichael <ozzrvd666@...>
                Subject: RE: [patriotzip] Goodbye ...
                To: patriotzip@yahoogroups.com
                Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 9:18 AM

                 

                the 50 is for the 50th anniversary of the original  AFL teams

                --- On Fri, 8/14/09, Ed Bryant <edbryant36@yahoo. com> wrote:

                From: Ed Bryant <edbryant36@yahoo. com>
                Subject: RE: [patriotzip] Goodbye ....
                To: patriotzip@yahoogro ups.com
                Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:12 AM

                I was disappointed.  I heard Randy and Don would be doing the TV last night, but when I turned it on, it was two other guys, one of whom was assigned to play by play, and yet couldn't name a receiver despite five replays (it was the kid from Georgia, Gibson, and Criqui never did give him a first name. Robert or Jonathan Kraft picks the preseason announcers, and I like Randy Cross, but why not have someone who can say the down and distance and the name of the receiver, the defender, and so on?  Plus, when Criqui did name a tackler, if three Pats participated, he credited the wrong one, time after time.

                On a nearly unrelated topic, Tom Brady will wear a 50 on his shoulder all season.  I take heart in this.  First, Michael Vick signs with the Eagles, so we know he won't be on our team, and second, if Brady has to wear a 50 badge, we can be pretty sure we won't be signing Barry Bonds, because NE P will not let him wear 73!!! 



                --- On Thu, 8/13/09, Don Diamant <jeepndd@metrocast. net> wrote:

                From: Don Diamant <jeepndd@metrocast. net>
                Subject: RE: [patriotzip] Goodbye ...
                To: patriotzip@yahoogro ups.com
                Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 8:42 PM

                 

                I got the opportunity to spend a couple of days at training camp this year.  Edelman appears to be the real deal and he’ll play special teams as well.  He seems to have good hands, good vision, and he is fast.  This kid is the future for special teams return specialist and I expect an up and coming WR as well.  We’ve got a lot of good young talent added to this team this year.  Some of last years crop of rookies appear poised to have a break out year as well.  I’m very optimistic on our young talent.

                 

                 

                 

                Don

                 


                From: patriotzip@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:patriotzip@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of George
                Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:29 PM
                To: 'Zip List'
                Subject: [patriotzip] Goodbye ...

                 

                 

                ... Matthew Slater.. This kid Edelman has GOT to make the team. Slater's spot is clearly the one he's in line for.

                 

                George

                 


              • Ed Bryant
                By the fourth replay, you don t need a spotter.  You look at the roster, and name the guy who did or did not catch the ball live, in replay 1, replay 2, et
                Message 7 of 9 , Aug 14, 2009
                  By the fourth replay, you don't need a spotter.  You look at the roster, and name the guy who did or did not catch the ball live, in replay 1, replay 2, et cetera.  I doubt there's the rapport Gil Santos has with his spotter, and Criqui only does three preseason games a year, and he's paid by NE P, not NFL, but did any Eagle not named McNab, Samuel, or Klecko have a name last night? 

                  --- On Fri, 8/14/09, George <patswingr@...> wrote:

                  From: George <patswingr@...>
                  Subject: RE: [patriotzip] Goodbye ...
                  To: patriotzip@yahoogroups.com
                  Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 8:08 AM

                   

                  All of the information on key players during plays is fed to the announcers by "spotters", Ed. So those are the guys you have to blame for most of that. Unless they're too damn cheap to pay for spotters in pre-season game. If that was the case, then the announcers were literally not experienced at trying to do it themselves.  The announcers are too busy to put glasses on the play, so they can't usually see the numbers.
                   

                  George

                   


                  From: patriotzip@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:patriotzip@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Ed Bryant
                  Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 6:12 PM
                  To: patriotzip@yahoogro ups.com
                  Subject: RE: [patriotzip] Goodbye ...

                  I was disappointed.  I heard Randy and Don would be doing the TV last night, but when I turned it on, it was two other guys, one of whom was assigned to play by play, and yet couldn't name a receiver despite five replays (it was the kid from Georgia, Gibson, and Criqui never did give him a first name. Robert or Jonathan Kraft picks the preseason announcers, and I like Randy Cross, but why not have someone who can say the down and distance and the name of the receiver, the defender, and so on?  Plus, when Criqui did name a tackler, if three Pats participated, he credited the wrong one, time after time.

                  On a nearly unrelated topic, Tom Brady will wear a 50 on his shoulder all season.  I take heart in this.  First, Michael Vick signs with the Eagles, so we know he won't be on our team, and second, if Brady has to wear a 50 badge, we can be pretty sure we won't be signing Barry Bonds, because NE P will not let him wear 73!!! 



                  --- On Thu, 8/13/09, Don Diamant <jeepndd@metrocast. net> wrote:

                  From: Don Diamant <jeepndd@metrocast. net>
                  Subject: RE: [patriotzip] Goodbye ...
                  To: patriotzip@yahoogro ups.com
                  Date: Thursday, August 13, 2009, 8:42 PM

                   

                  I got the opportunity to spend a couple of days at training camp this year.  Edelman appears to be the real deal and he’ll play special teams as well.  He seems to have good hands, good vision, and he is fast.  This kid is the future for special teams return specialist and I expect an up and coming WR as well.  We’ve got a lot of good young talent added to this team this year.  Some of last years crop of rookies appear poised to have a break out year as well.  I’m very optimistic on our young talent.

                   

                   

                   

                  Don

                   


                  From: patriotzip@yahoogro ups.com [mailto:patriotzip@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of George
                  Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 8:29 PM
                  To: 'Zip List'
                  Subject: [patriotzip] Goodbye ...

                   

                   

                  ... Matthew Slater. This kid Edelman has GOT to make the team. Slater's spot is clearly the one he's in line for.

                   

                  George

                   

                • Don Diamant
                  I remember them Eckel ing some former Navy guy. Don _____ From: patriotzip@yahoogroups.com [mailto:patriotzip@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ed Bryant Sent:
                  Message 8 of 9 , Aug 14, 2009

                    I remember them Eckel’ing some former Navy guy.

                     

                    Don

                     


                    From: patriotzip@yahoogroups.com [mailto: patriotzip@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Ed Bryant
                    Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 12:54 PM
                    To: patriotzip@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: RE: [patriotzip] Goodbye ...

                     

                    By the fourth replay, you don't need a spotter.  You look at the roster, and name the guy who did or did not catch the ball live, in replay 1, replay 2, et cetera.  I doubt there's the rapport Gil Santos has with his spotter, and Criqui only does three preseason games a year, and he's paid by NE P, not NFL, but did any Eagle not named McNab, Samuel, or Klecko have a name last night? 

                     

                  • kmacalp@aol.com
                    Another neat thing about Edleman is that he actually played QB through out his college career before going into the NFL draft as a receiver. I know he has
                    Message 9 of 9 , Aug 15, 2009
                      Another neat thing about Edleman is that he actually played QB through out his college career before going into the NFL draft as a receiver. I know he has plenty to learn becoming a WR and special teams player, but in future years, he could allow us to save a roster spot by carrying only 2 QBs instead of 3. Even this year, in case of an absolute disaster (knock on wood), he could be a 4th QB. Plus there's the trick play potential. This is a kid who not only has a good arm but he's used to reading defenses and throwing during games. Compare this to a player who can throw well, but isn't used to reading coverages and throwing under game conditions.
                       
                      Edleman could help a lot. Welker's punt return abilities provide a lot of value, but he there's the potential for taking some huge hits returning punts. Meanwhile, Welker is already absorbing a lot of punishment on offense. 223 catches in two years with a lot of them coming in the middle of the field. Edleman could provide those Welkerish returns, set us up with good field position, and save some wear and tear on Welker. Plus, with New England running so many plays with 3 wide receiver formations, Edleman looks like a natural to sub for Welker as the slot receiver. If the game gets out of hand one way or the other or if Welker needs a breather or if Welker gets injured (again knock on wood), Edleman looks like he can fill that spot.
                       
                      Scott Sheaffer
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