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  • Susan Moore
    These are some good comments by your fellow posters over there...I agree with you that there is no nastiness in any of those comments at all. Maybe they do
    Message 1 of 2 , Feb 5, 2008
      These are some good comments by your fellow posters over there...I agree with you that there is no nastiness in any of those comments at all. Maybe they do "get you" more than you realize, although they don't feel the same depth as you/we do because they haven't had that same sort of team or situation to root for yet. I'm so deep into this Pats team that I can never climb out and no one around here gets it either. Alot of people like that Chargers and they were gloating over that Giants win, but the joke was on them with what Archie did for his little boy and pulled him out of a "not good enough" team. Funny, huh? I don't care for the Chargers because I've also been a Broncos fan for years (alot) and loathe the Chargers.
      1) The first one says take a breath because it was a good season...that's true and the Giants had a charmed game on ONE day..not in general.
      2) I'm for the Cowboys in the NFC and I took the loss hard too...I had really thought my two teams would be playing each other and yes, I'd have rooted for the Pats. I think the Cowboys and the Packers took the Giants too lightly and it wound up being David vs. Goliath.
      3) I agree with the NE fans being resilient, guess we all have to be, but it's going to take me some time with that.
      At least we all "get" each other on here and that's awesome....Susan
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: George
      Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:46 AM
      Subject: [patriotzip] Sharing

      ***** I have to share some comments made by some email contacts here in
      Thailand. I posted the same initial note ("The Best Team Won") that I had
      posted here. The following are some comments I received in response. They
      actually made me smile a bit, as they proved a couple of things to me.
      First, it's obvious that I (and most of you reading this) am among a small
      percentage of people who can be classified as truly ... umm ... intense
      fans. The second is that fans of other teams have no concept of what it felt
      like for Patriots fans to endure what we did this season, and to feel the
      opportunity that was there for a true "once in a lifetime" achievement by
      our team. Check these comments:

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      Geez man, take a breath and take pride in an excellent season and a fine
      organization. Giants had a charmed game. Hats off!
      I grew up a Raiders fan. How do you think I've been feeling the last few
      years. Bring on the draft, camp and the next season!!!!
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      Patsfangr, although I took the Cowboys loss to the Giants hard, especially
      since the Cowboys had beaten the Giants twice during the season, it is still
      a game and in a month or so all you will be thinking of is next year just as
      I am. The Pats are a wonderful team and will always be remembered for how
      good they were this year. A year is a long time to wait, but the Pats will
      be back winning again next year.

      I don't think the Pats choked. I think they were simply overconfident and it
      showed when, during the game, some of the Pats were inviting Giant players
      to their houses after the game for their superbowl parties. They figured
      that one way or another they would win it in the end just like they always

      In addition, as it turned out, Neal's injury devastated the offensive line.
      It put pressure on everyone to compensate and given the Giants speed, that
      was impossible. Players that never have penalties, had penalties and players
      who never miss blocks, missed blocks. I don't think any team can prepare a
      game plan for this type of key injury during a game. In the pocket, Brady
      was a sitting duck. Also, while downplayed, we have no idea how much Brady's
      ankle hurt.

      So, if you were drafting players for the Pats, who would be your draft
      choices and why?
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      I also strongly disagree with the choke tag. This really takes a lot away
      from a fine NYFG team and fails to take into account the sheer intensity and
      exertion of will the Giants brought to this game. The Patriots defense did
      OK; sure they broke, as opposed to bending, on the last drive but they still
      held the Giants to 18 fewer point that they did in week 17. And to some, it
      looked like the Patriots failed to execute on offense, but in my opinion the
      Giants defense had the stronger desire to win, and exerted their will on the
      Patriots. Tom Brady has never been a mobile quarterback so expecting him to
      instantly become one in the face of intense pressure is unreasonable. When
      the other team beats my team by playing well I just don't consider that
      choking. But maybe we all have different definitions of "choke"?

      I say congratulations to the New England Patriots on an excellent season,
      and the same to the New York Giants. Most New England sports fans are
      resilient, and even admire opponents when they beat our teams (Yankees
      excluded), so after a brief period of mourning will move on to give the
      Celtics (best record in the NBA) the attention they deserve, while we wait
      for the defending World Series Champion Red Sox to begin their 2008 season.
      In Japan?

      Still in shock, but moving towards acceptance.
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      ***** They just don't get it ... or get me ... or both. As you can see,
      there was no nastiness in any of that. I've been talking NFL with all of
      these guys throughout the season, and they're not Pats hating jerks. They
      just do not understand the depth of my feeling about this football team. I
      don't fault them at all for that, since, to be honest, it isn't easy for me
      to understand it either! :-)


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