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  • Garth & Kim Travis
    Greetings, My piers go down a long way, to solid bedrock. Ten foot piers for my building to sit on, so it doesn t shift. So, the top of the land will show
    Message 1 of 36 , Feb 19, 2013
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      Greetings,
      My piers go down a long way, to solid bedrock. Ten foot piers for my
      building to sit on, so it doesn't shift. So, the top of the land will
      show the movement against my piers. The concrete was even with the
      land, when the ground is wet and expanded, but when we dry out, the land
      shrinks, and the concrete is 4" out of the ground. That is a lot of
      movement, enough to crush a concrete wall.

      There is a basement in Texas, at a winery between Houston and Galveston.
      I think it is call Haak Winery. A tour there may teach you a few
      tricks. BTW, their basement stays a perfect 70 at all times.

      Bright Blessings,
      Garth & Kim Travis
      www.TheRoseColoredForest.com
      Bedias, Texas

      On 2/18/2013 8:18 PM, waterengineman101 wrote:
      > Hmmm.....I may need to read up on that.
      > "What kind of soil do you have?"...I don't know. It's not sandly lome.
      > More of a brown dirt. This was erogated farm land in the 50's 60's &
      > 70"s. There may be a clay line underneath about 5 foot down...I ran into
      > some when I was post hole digging a 5 foot deep telephone pole hole.
      >
      > "When we dried out for summer, my concrete was four inches out of the
      > ground"....I am trying to understand that. What can you tell me about that?
      > Where is Bedias, Texas?
      >
      > --- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com
      > <mailto:papercreters%40yahoogroups.com>, Garth & Kim Travis wrote:
      > >
      > > Greetings,
      > > What kind of soil do you have? If you have the heavy clay that is
      > > normal in many parts of Texas, your underground house will break at the
      > > first really good rain. You need a way to make sure your land doesn't
      > > move. I first noticed mine does because of my piers. I put them in
      > > during the wet season and brought the concrete to the level of the
      > > ground. When we dried out for summer, my concrete was four inches out
      > > of the ground. So, no underground house for me. The forces of nature
      > > are too strong here.
      > >
      > > Bright Blessings,
      > > Garth & Kim Travis
      > > www.TheRoseColoredForest.com
      > > Bedias, Texas
      > >
      > > On 2/18/2013 5:53 AM, waterengineman101 wrote:
      > > > Hello people. Long time no see! Well guys work and daily life gets
      > in my
      > > > fasinasion about papercrete a lot so I end up not getting to spend much
      > > > time on it. However soon (like in 2 months) I will be able to start my
      > > > house. As you should know, the earth is absolutely the best insulater
      > > > against the heat of summer (think, far south texas, 100 degrees
      > everyday
      > > > for months on end...for real!). And, I have access to a backhoe and can
      > > > operate it. AND, if its underground I won't have to pay taxes on it. So
      > > > here's the BIG question. What is a sure fire no guessing truely proven
      > > > way to make papercrete waterproof? Now I want to clearify. I don't mean
      > > > I want to know if it will work just a little bit, I want to know it
      > will
      > > > work FOR SURE! no cactus juice works well, no I heard you use linseed
      > > > oil...I need it to actually BE waterproof as now I am concidering
      > > > building the house underground. To ease fears, I allready think I know
      > > > about how to keep it from colapsing in. right now I am only researching
      > > > on how to make papercrete WATERPROOF. Totally waterproof, no
      > seapage, No
      > > > dampness threw the wall...TOTAL waterproofing. NOW.....can anybody tell
      > > > me what I need to know. I will await an answer and I will check back
      > > > after work today. Thanks for your time.
      > > >
      > > > s.
      > > >
      > > >
      > >
      >
      >
      >
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    • Garth & Kim Travis
      Greetings, If the plates are not kept current, yes, they do tax you on it as a home. Lots of RVs are lived in and pay the property tax, not the road tax.
      Message 36 of 36 , Feb 23, 2013
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        Greetings,

        If the plates are not kept current, yes, they do tax you on it as a
        home. Lots of RVs are lived in and pay the property tax, not the road
        tax. Good luck trying to use an 18 wheeler as storage unless you keep
        it licensed and insured for the road. They will tax you one way or the
        other. The counties and the state are broke.

        Bright Blessings,
        Garth & Kim Travis
        www.TheRoseColoredForest.com
        Bedias, Texas

        On 2/23/2013 5:36 AM, waterengineman101 wrote:
        > "I have to pay for my fema trailer as living space, even though no one
        > lives in it"...They are stealing from you then. That thing have a
        > licence plate? Then THAT's how the taxes are paid on it...not threw
        > property taxs. And just because you don't register it does not mean it
        > is okay for them to give you taxation without representation....U.S.A.
        > (us baby!) fought a war over that with england. Sounds like you need to
        > hire an attorney.
        >
        > --- In papercreters@yahoogroups.com
        > <mailto:papercreters%40yahoogroups.com>, Garth & Kim Travis wrote:
        > >
        > > Greetings,
        > > I would not count on this one. If the vehicle doesn't move and is not
        > > street legal, then yes it counts as a building. I have to pay for my
        > > fema trailer as living space, even though no one lives in it. It is my
        > > guest house. It has wheels, for that matter, so does an old mobile I
        > > use for storage, but it is taxable as well. Frankly, insurance and
        > > plates cost more than taxes, at least in my county, which is Grimes.
        > >
        > > Bright Blessings,
        > > Garth & Kim Travis
        > > www.TheRoseColoredForest.com
        > > Bedias, Texas
        > >
        > > On 2/19/2013 5:19 AM, waterengineman101 wrote:
        > > >...And if you Just use 18 wheeler box type (cargo) trailers
        > > > and leave the wheels on them and use them as storage sheds well
        > then you
        > > > won't be taxed at all on them. Old U-haul truck work good too.
        > > >
        > >
        >
        >
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