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  • FourDirect@aol.com
    Heidi, Yes, excellent points! I ve had the same experiences. We probably all have. And the burden of proof always comes back to us, and usually I have no
    Message 1 of 22 , Jun 28, 2005
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      Heidi,

      Yes, excellent points! I've had the same experiences. We probably all have. And the burden of proof always comes back to us, and usually I have no concrete proof of anything!

      Best,
      Nancy
    • Jessica
      did anyone get a letter from the pc office of inspector general about a review of cases?
      Message 2 of 22 , Sep 12 5:10 AM
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        did anyone get a letter from the pc office of inspector general about a
        review of cases?
      • Julie Moriarty
        not me ... From: Jessica To: owcp@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:10:06 AM Subject: [owcp] letter did anyone get a
        Message 3 of 22 , Sep 12 8:22 AM
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          not me

          ----- Original Message ----
          From: Jessica <jess428@...>
          To: owcp@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 8:10:06 AM
          Subject: [owcp] letter

          did anyone get a letter from the pc office of inspector general about a
          review of cases?


        • Doug Hemken
          I got it too ... again, after a couple of years. Douglas Hemken Statistical Computing Specialist Social Science Computing Coop 4226I Social Science Bldg.
          Message 4 of 22 , Sep 12 8:27 AM
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            I got it too ... again, after a couple of years.

            Douglas Hemken
            Statistical Computing Specialist
            Social Science Computing Coop
            4226I Social Science Bldg.

            dehemken@...
            262-4327

            ----- Original Message -----
            From: Jessica <jess428@...>
            Date: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 7:13 am
            Subject: [owcp] letter
            To: owcp@yahoogroups.com

            > did anyone get a letter from the pc office of inspector general
            > about a
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          • Felicia
            ... I missed a certified letter that came in the mail yesterday, so perhaps that was it. I got a letter about this time two years ago that was snotty and
            Message 5 of 22 , Sep 12 8:39 AM
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              > did anyone get a letter from the pc office of inspector
              > general about a
              > review of cases?

              I missed a certified letter that came in the mail
              yesterday, so perhaps that was it. I got a letter about
              this time two years ago that was snotty and implied that I
              wasn't entitled to disability. So, if that's what you
              got, you aren't alone. -- Felicia
            • Jessica
              so what s the deal? do they actually call you to investigate/interrogate you? or is just some vague threat?
              Message 6 of 22 , Sep 12 11:28 AM
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                so what's the deal? do they actually call you to
                investigate/interrogate you? or is just some vague 'threat?'



                --- In owcp@yahoogroups.com, "Felicia" <felicia@...> wrote:
                >
                > > did anyone get a letter from the pc office of inspector
                > > general about a
                > > review of cases?
                >
                > I missed a certified letter that came in the mail
                > yesterday, so perhaps that was it. I got a letter about
                > this time two years ago that was snotty and implied that I
                > wasn't entitled to disability. So, if that's what you
                > got, you aren't alone. -- Felicia
                >
              • Donald Weaks
                My only dealings with the OIG was when I called one of the Inspector General who had visited me in Togo in 2003 to ask him for help after my medsep. He called
                Message 7 of 22 , Sep 12 11:45 AM
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                  My only dealings with the OIG was when I called one of
                  the Inspector General who had visited me in Togo in
                  2003 to ask him for help after my medsep. He called me
                  back and put me on a speaker phone with some lawyers
                  in the OIG who after a slightly acrimonious
                  conversation told me to file an appeal with the DOL or
                  find a lawyer since their job was to be the lawyers
                  for PC.

                  --- Jessica <jess428@...> wrote:

                  > so what's the deal? do they actually call you to
                  > investigate/interrogate you? or is just some vague
                  > 'threat?'
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                  > --- In owcp@yahoogroups.com, "Felicia" <felicia@...>
                  > wrote:
                  > >
                  > > > did anyone get a letter from the pc office of
                  > inspector
                  > > > general about a
                  > > > review of cases?
                  > >
                  > > I missed a certified letter that came in the mail
                  > > yesterday, so perhaps that was it. I got a letter
                  > about
                  > > this time two years ago that was snotty and
                  > implied that I
                  > > wasn't entitled to disability. So, if that's what
                  > you
                  > > got, you aren't alone. -- Felicia
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                • Felicia
                  Well, last time it was just a threat. I m considering writing a letter to tell them that rather than hasseling sick RPCVs they might consider cracking down on
                  Message 8 of 22 , Sep 12 12:29 PM
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                    Well, last time it was just a threat. I'm considering
                    writing a letter to tell them that rather than hasseling
                    sick RPCVs they might consider cracking down on behavior
                    by PCMOs that is putting all of us in these situations.
                    At least in my case, it is the Peace Corps fault that I am
                    sick and if they had followed the instructions that the
                    maker of the medication that caused these problems
                    (Lariam) put out, I would probably be significantly better
                    than I am today and they wouldn't be spending so much
                    money on me and my doctors. -- Felicia

                    > so what's the deal? do they actually call you to
                    > investigate/interrogate you? or is just some vague
                    > 'threat?'
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                    > --- In owcp@yahoogroups.com, "Felicia" <felicia@...>
                    > wrote:
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                    >> > did anyone get a letter from the pc office of
                    >> inspector
                    >> > general about a
                    >> > review of cases?
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                    >> I missed a certified letter that came in the mail
                    >> yesterday, so perhaps that was it. I got a letter about
                    >> this time two years ago that was snotty and implied that
                    >> I
                    >> wasn't entitled to disability. So, if that's what you
                    >> got, you aren't alone. -- Felicia
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                  • FourDirect@aol.com
                    I haven t had the time to stand in the PO line to see what the certified letter was all about but I figured it must have been this. I feel as if I ve been
                    Message 9 of 22 , Sep 12 4:02 PM
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                      I haven't had the time to stand in the PO line to see what the certified letter was all about but I figured it must have been this. I feel as if I've been harassed over and over by the government that is supposed to take care of US!
                       
                      Now I won't hurry to go pick it up.
                       
                      Will this ever get better?
                       
                      Nancy Tongue
                    • Heidi Fassnacht
                      Ditto. This is the second one of these I ve gotten. I ve heard nothing from PC or anyone else for that matter in the mean time. This time the letter was not
                      Message 10 of 22 , Sep 19 5:10 AM
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                        Ditto. This is the second one of these I've gotten.
                        I've heard nothing from PC or anyone else for that
                        matter in the mean time. This time the letter was not
                        just certified though, they had a return receipt on it
                        (ie. I had to sign two things saying I got the letter.
                        One of them was a post card that gets sent back to
                        PC).


                        --- Doug Hemken <dehemken@...> wrote:

                        > I got it too ... again, after a couple of years.
                        >
                        > Douglas Hemken
                        > Statistical Computing Specialist
                        > Social Science Computing Coop
                        > 4226I Social Science Bldg.
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                        > dehemken@...
                        > 262-4327
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                        > ----- Original Message -----
                        > From: Jessica <jess428@...>
                        > Date: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 7:13 am
                        > Subject: [owcp] letter
                        > To: owcp@yahoogroups.com
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                        > > did anyone get a letter from the pc office of
                        > inspector general
                        > > about a
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                      • Doug Hemken
                        I wonder if they ll even notice that it was Elizabeth, my wife, who signed the receipt? Are there any OWCP lurkers on this email list? Douglas Hemken
                        Message 11 of 22 , Sep 19 6:54 AM
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                          I wonder if they'll even notice that it was Elizabeth, my wife, who
                          signed the receipt? Are there any OWCP lurkers on this email list?

                          Douglas Hemken
                          Statistical Computing Specialist
                          Social Science Computing Coop
                          4226I Social Science Bldg.

                          dehemken@...
                          262-4327

                          ----- Original Message -----
                          From: Heidi Fassnacht <riverock5@...>
                          Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 7:24 am
                          Subject: Re: [owcp] letter
                          To: owcp@yahoogroups.com

                          > Ditto. This is the second one of these I've gotten.
                          > I've heard nothing from PC or anyone else for that
                          > matter in the mean time. This time the letter was not
                          > just certified though, they had a return receipt on it
                          > (ie. I had to sign two things saying I got the letter.
                          > One of them was a post card that gets sent back to
                          > PC).
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                          > --- Doug Hemken <dehemken@...> wrote:
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                          > > I got it too ... again, after a couple of years.
                          > >
                          > > Douglas Hemken
                          > > Statistical Computing Specialist
                          > > Social Science Computing Coop
                          > > 4226I Social Science Bldg.
                          > >
                          > > dehemken@...
                          > > 262-4327
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                          > > ----- Original Message -----
                          > > From: Jessica <jess428@...>
                          > > Date: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 7:13 am
                          > > Subject: [owcp] letter
                          > > To: owcp@yahoogroups.com
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                          > > > did anyone get a letter from the pc office of
                          > > inspector general
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                          > "In the end, our society will be defined not only by what we
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                        • Jessica
                          my mom signed for mine b/c it went to my parents home address in another state!
                          Message 12 of 22 , Sep 19 12:12 PM
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                            my mom signed for mine b/c it went to my parents home address in
                            another state!

                            --- In owcp@yahoogroups.com, Doug Hemken <dehemken@...> wrote:
                            >
                            > I wonder if they'll even notice that it was Elizabeth, my wife, who
                            > signed the receipt? Are there any OWCP lurkers on this email list?
                            >
                            > Douglas Hemken
                            > Statistical Computing Specialist
                            > Social Science Computing Coop
                            > 4226I Social Science Bldg.
                            >
                            > dehemken@...
                            > 262-4327
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                            > ----- Original Message -----
                            > From: Heidi Fassnacht <riverock5@...>
                            > Date: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 7:24 am
                            > Subject: Re: [owcp] letter
                            > To: owcp@yahoogroups.com
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                            > > Ditto. This is the second one of these I've gotten.
                            > > I've heard nothing from PC or anyone else for that
                            > > matter in the mean time. This time the letter was not
                            > > just certified though, they had a return receipt on it
                            > > (ie. I had to sign two things saying I got the letter.
                            > > One of them was a post card that gets sent back to
                            > > PC).
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                            > >
                            > > --- Doug Hemken <dehemken@...> wrote:
                            > >
                            > > > I got it too ... again, after a couple of years.
                            > > >
                            > > > Douglas Hemken
                            > > > Statistical Computing Specialist
                            > > > Social Science Computing Coop
                            > > > 4226I Social Science Bldg.
                            > > >
                            > > > dehemken@...
                            > > > 262-4327
                            > > >
                            > > > ----- Original Message -----
                            > > > From: Jessica <jess428@...>
                            > > > Date: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 7:13 am
                            > > > Subject: [owcp] letter
                            > > > To: owcp@yahoogroups.com
                            > > >
                            > > > > did anyone get a letter from the pc office of
                            > > > inspector general
                            > > > > about a
                            > > > > review of cases?
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                          • FourDirect@aol.com
                            I haven t even bothered to go to the post office and track mine down. I still feel so insulted by their attitude. Doug, I can t imagine any of them are lurking
                            Message 13 of 22 , Sep 19 6:30 PM
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                              I haven't even bothered to go to the post office and track mine down. I still feel so insulted by their attitude.
                               
                              Doug, I can't imagine any of them are lurking here but they should know how we feel!
                               
                              Best to everyone,
                              Nancy
                              NYC
                            • dj bryant
                              I got one of these lovely letters as well; figured it was pro forma red tape and rat race. Then, yesterday, a large confusing packet arrived including medical
                              Message 14 of 22 , Sep 20 10:19 AM
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                                I got one of these lovely letters as well; figured it was pro forma red tape
                                and rat race.

                                Then, yesterday, a large confusing packet arrived including medical
                                re-evaluation forms and reporting of all income over the past 15 months. As
                                I am considered to be at 'medical end point' (a lovely phrase in itself), I
                                have no doctors following my case.

                                This past spring, my compensation was cut by a third, because I am released
                                for part time work (with fairly limiting restrictions, including 15 minute
                                breaks for every hour worked). That there are no jobs in my area that fit
                                both my restrictions and my qualifications, that I have applied for a number
                                of jobs without success, that the pay rate that they are calculating the
                                reduction on is not the compensation offered in this area - none of that
                                seems to matter. The "job counselor" provided by the OWCP was from another
                                state, met with me a total of five times, never offered any sort of job
                                training or performed even basic skills assessments.

                                The whole is immensely disheartening and depressing. As I pointed out in a
                                letter to the OWCP, when I left my job for Peace Corps service six years ago
                                (I served three years in Armenia) I had medical insurance, a pension plan,
                                and a higher rate of take home pay than my current compensation. Now I have
                                no insurance, no pension plan, and I miss the Federal Poverty Standard by
                                $3,016.

                                Disability is not my career choice; this is not the life I wanted nor the
                                one I would choose.

                                Meg Wallace, RPCV (Armenia, 2000- 2003)
                              • Felicia
                                I ve had two re-evaluations so far, and with your case as bad as it is, perhaps it could help. The same with the compensation form. If you aren t making any
                                Message 15 of 22 , Sep 20 1:50 PM
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                                  I've had two re-evaluations so far, and with your case as
                                  bad as it is, perhaps it could help. The same with the
                                  compensation form. If you aren't making any money, then
                                  the DoL owes you more. I take it that you've already
                                  called your caseworker, right? You might have to contact
                                  the case worker and the job counselor and make it clear
                                  that the current situation isn't working. Perhaps if you
                                  make yourself a real pain in the ass, you can get this
                                  resolved. I was told that they would train me if I
                                  couldn't find jobs in my area. You should ask about this.

                                  Speaking of insurance, what do people on this list do for
                                  insurance? My husband is going to be changing jobs and
                                  will be losing his benefits. Should I apply for SSD or
                                  something? -- Felicia

                                  > I got one of these lovely letters as well; figured it was
                                  > pro forma red tape
                                  > and rat race.
                                  >
                                  > Then, yesterday, a large confusing packet arrived
                                  > including medical
                                  > re-evaluation forms and reporting of all income over the
                                  > past 15 months. As
                                  > I am considered to be at 'medical end point' (a lovely
                                  > phrase in itself), I
                                  > have no doctors following my case.
                                  >
                                  > This past spring, my compensation was cut by a third,
                                  > because I am released
                                  > for part time work (with fairly limiting restrictions,
                                  > including 15 minute
                                  > breaks for every hour worked). That there are no jobs in
                                  > my area that fit
                                  > both my restrictions and my qualifications, that I have
                                  > applied for a number
                                  > of jobs without success, that the pay rate that they are
                                  > calculating the
                                  > reduction on is not the compensation offered in this area
                                  > - none of that
                                  > seems to matter. The "job counselor" provided by the OWCP
                                  > was from another
                                  > state, met with me a total of five times, never offered
                                  > any sort of job
                                  > training or performed even basic skills assessments.
                                  >
                                  > The whole is immensely disheartening and depressing. As I
                                  > pointed out in a
                                  > letter to the OWCP, when I left my job for Peace Corps
                                  > service six years ago
                                  > (I served three years in Armenia) I had medical insurance,
                                  > a pension plan,
                                  > and a higher rate of take home pay than my current
                                  > compensation. Now I have
                                  > no insurance, no pension plan, and I miss the Federal
                                  > Poverty Standard by
                                  > $3,016.
                                  >
                                  > Disability is not my career choice; this is not the life I
                                  > wanted nor the
                                  > one I would choose.
                                  >
                                  > Meg Wallace, RPCV (Armenia, 2000- 2003)
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                                • Doug Hemken
                                  Contact you Senator. In my experience, they can be very helpful with OWCP. Douglas Hemken Statistical Computing Specialist Social Science Computing Coop 4226I
                                  Message 16 of 22 , Sep 20 2:21 PM
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                                    Contact you Senator. In my experience, they can be very helpful with OWCP.

                                    Douglas Hemken
                                    Statistical Computing Specialist
                                    Social Science Computing Coop
                                    4226I Social Science Bldg.

                                    dehemken@...
                                    262-4327

                                    ----- Original Message -----
                                    From: Felicia <felicia@...>
                                    Date: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 4:14 pm
                                    Subject: Re: [owcp] Re: letter
                                    To: owcp@yahoogroups.com

                                    > I've had two re-evaluations so far, and with your case as
                                    > bad as it is, perhaps it could help. The same with the
                                    > compensation form. If you aren't making any money, then
                                    > the DoL owes you more. I take it that you've already
                                    > called your caseworker, right? You might have to contact
                                    > the case worker and the job counselor and make it clear
                                    > that the current situation isn't working. Perhaps if you
                                    > make yourself a real pain in the ass, you can get this
                                    > resolved. I was told that they would train me if I
                                    > couldn't find jobs in my area. You should ask about this.
                                    >
                                    > Speaking of insurance, what do people on this list do for
                                    > insurance? My husband is going to be changing jobs and
                                    > will be losing his benefits. Should I apply for SSD or
                                    > something? -- Felicia
                                    >
                                    > > I got one of these lovely letters as well; figured it was
                                    > > pro forma red tape
                                    > > and rat race.
                                    > >
                                    > > Then, yesterday, a large confusing packet arrived
                                    > > including medical
                                    > > re-evaluation forms and reporting of all income over the
                                    > > past 15 months. As
                                    > > I am considered to be at 'medical end point' (a lovely
                                    > > phrase in itself), I
                                    > > have no doctors following my case.
                                    > >
                                    > > This past spring, my compensation was cut by a third,
                                    > > because I am released
                                    > > for part time work (with fairly limiting restrictions,
                                    > > including 15 minute
                                    > > breaks for every hour worked). That there are no jobs in
                                    > > my area that fit
                                    > > both my restrictions and my qualifications, that I have
                                    > > applied for a number
                                    > > of jobs without success, that the pay rate that they are
                                    > > calculating the
                                    > > reduction on is not the compensation offered in this area
                                    > > - none of that
                                    > > seems to matter. The "job counselor" provided by the OWCP
                                    > > was from another
                                    > > state, met with me a total of five times, never offered
                                    > > any sort of job
                                    > > training or performed even basic skills assessments.
                                    > >
                                    > > The whole is immensely disheartening and depressing. As I
                                    > > pointed out in a
                                    > > letter to the OWCP, when I left my job for Peace Corps
                                    > > service six years ago
                                    > > (I served three years in Armenia) I had medical insurance,
                                    > > a pension plan,
                                    > > and a higher rate of take home pay than my current
                                    > > compensation. Now I have
                                    > > no insurance, no pension plan, and I miss the Federal
                                    > > Poverty Standard by
                                    > > $3,016.
                                    > >
                                    > > Disability is not my career choice; this is not the life I
                                    > > wanted nor the
                                    > > one I would choose.
                                    > >
                                    > > Meg Wallace, RPCV (Armenia, 2000- 2003)
                                    > >
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                                  • Doug Hemken
                                    And to add another question to Felicia s, what happens when you retire? Douglas Hemken Statistical Computing Specialist Social Science Computing Coop 4226I
                                    Message 17 of 22 , Sep 20 2:21 PM
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                                      And to add another question to Felicia's, what happens when you retire?

                                      Douglas Hemken
                                      Statistical Computing Specialist
                                      Social Science Computing Coop
                                      4226I Social Science Bldg.

                                      dehemken@...
                                      262-4327

                                      ----- Original Message -----
                                      From: Felicia <felicia@...>
                                      Date: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 4:14 pm
                                      Subject: Re: [owcp] Re: letter
                                      To: owcp@yahoogroups.com

                                      > I've had two re-evaluations so far, and with your case as
                                      > bad as it is, perhaps it could help. The same with the
                                      > compensation form. If you aren't making any money, then
                                      > the DoL owes you more. I take it that you've already
                                      > called your caseworker, right? You might have to contact
                                      > the case worker and the job counselor and make it clear
                                      > that the current situation isn't working. Perhaps if you
                                      > make yourself a real pain in the ass, you can get this
                                      > resolved. I was told that they would train me if I
                                      > couldn't find jobs in my area. You should ask about this.
                                      >
                                      > Speaking of insurance, what do people on this list do for
                                      > insurance? My husband is going to be changing jobs and
                                      > will be losing his benefits. Should I apply for SSD or
                                      > something? -- Felicia
                                      >
                                      > > I got one of these lovely letters as well; figured it was
                                      > > pro forma red tape
                                      > > and rat race.
                                      > >
                                      > > Then, yesterday, a large confusing packet arrived
                                      > > including medical
                                      > > re-evaluation forms and reporting of all income over the
                                      > > past 15 months. As
                                      > > I am considered to be at 'medical end point' (a lovely
                                      > > phrase in itself), I
                                      > > have no doctors following my case.
                                      > >
                                      > > This past spring, my compensation was cut by a third,
                                      > > because I am released
                                      > > for part time work (with fairly limiting restrictions,
                                      > > including 15 minute
                                      > > breaks for every hour worked). That there are no jobs in
                                      > > my area that fit
                                      > > both my restrictions and my qualifications, that I have
                                      > > applied for a number
                                      > > of jobs without success, that the pay rate that they are
                                      > > calculating the
                                      > > reduction on is not the compensation offered in this area
                                      > > - none of that
                                      > > seems to matter. The "job counselor" provided by the OWCP
                                      > > was from another
                                      > > state, met with me a total of five times, never offered
                                      > > any sort of job
                                      > > training or performed even basic skills assessments.
                                      > >
                                      > > The whole is immensely disheartening and depressing. As I
                                      > > pointed out in a
                                      > > letter to the OWCP, when I left my job for Peace Corps
                                      > > service six years ago
                                      > > (I served three years in Armenia) I had medical insurance,
                                      > > a pension plan,
                                      > > and a higher rate of take home pay than my current
                                      > > compensation. Now I have
                                      > > no insurance, no pension plan, and I miss the Federal
                                      > > Poverty Standard by
                                      > > $3,016.
                                      > >
                                      > > Disability is not my career choice; this is not the life I
                                      > > wanted nor the
                                      > > one I would choose.
                                      > >
                                      > > Meg Wallace, RPCV (Armenia, 2000- 2003)
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                                    • Felicia
                                      How long did it take before you were considered at a medical end point? I have some kind of brain damage, which is not treatable, although they could give me
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                                        How long did it take before you were considered at a
                                        medical end point? I have some kind of brain damage,
                                        which is not treatable, although they could give me
                                        medication to mitigate the anxiety, etc. I've been this
                                        way for two years. I was told that eventually they would
                                        try to settle out of court with some kind of lump sum, if
                                        it looked like I was never going to get any better.
                                        Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had gone through
                                        anything like that. (Oh, and my husband's suggestion was
                                        to get a lawyer.) -- Felicia

                                        >> > I got one of these lovely letters as well; figured it
                                        >> was
                                        >> > pro forma red tape
                                        >> > and rat race.
                                        >> >
                                        >> > Then, yesterday, a large confusing packet arrived
                                        >> > including medical
                                        >> > re-evaluation forms and reporting of all income over
                                        >> the
                                        >> > past 15 months. As
                                        >> > I am considered to be at 'medical end point' (a lovely
                                        >> > phrase in itself), I
                                        >> > have no doctors following my case.
                                        >> >
                                        >> > This past spring, my compensation was cut by a third,
                                        >> > because I am released
                                        >> > for part time work (with fairly limiting restrictions,
                                        >> > including 15 minute
                                        >> > breaks for every hour worked). That there are no jobs
                                        >> in
                                        >> > my area that fit
                                        >> > both my restrictions and my qualifications, that I
                                        >> have
                                        >> > applied for a number
                                        >> > of jobs without success, that the pay rate that they
                                        >> are
                                        >> > calculating the
                                        >> > reduction on is not the compensation offered in this
                                        >> area
                                        >> > - none of that
                                        >> > seems to matter. The "job counselor" provided by the
                                        >> OWCP
                                        >> > was from another
                                        >> > state, met with me a total of five times, never
                                        >> offered
                                        >> > any sort of job
                                        >> > training or performed even basic skills assessments.
                                        >> >
                                        >> > The whole is immensely disheartening and depressing.
                                        >> As I
                                        >> > pointed out in a
                                        >> > letter to the OWCP, when I left my job for Peace Corps
                                        >> > service six years ago
                                        >> > (I served three years in Armenia) I had medical
                                        >> insurance,
                                        >> > a pension plan,
                                        >> > and a higher rate of take home pay than my current
                                        >> > compensation. Now I have
                                        >> > no insurance, no pension plan, and I miss the Federal
                                        >> > Poverty Standard by
                                        >> > $3,016.
                                        >> >
                                        >> > Disability is not my career choice; this is not the
                                        >> life I
                                        >> > wanted nor the
                                        >> > one I would choose.
                                        >> >
                                        >> > Meg Wallace, RPCV (Armenia, 2000- 2003)
                                        >> >
                                        >> >
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                                        >> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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                                      • krcorwin@pacbell.net
                                        I got to that point (medical end point ) after about ten years when they granted me what s called a scheduled award , which means they have a table in the
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                                          I got to that point (medical end point ) after about ten years when they granted me what’s called a “scheduled award”, which means they have a table in the Civil Code that values each and every disability with a percent of total and you get so many weeks compensation for each percent. In my case it was fairly straight forward because they have a long established standard for the loss of an extremety. This is the way we finally get paid off, but even after that I have qualified for compensation for lost work (at my PC rate) if one of the conditions which was incurred during my PC service caused me to be Temporarily Totally Disabled. My DOI was 10/28/71 and I’ve received treatment every year, prosthetic devices, and compensation for lost work when it became necessary to due further surgery as late as 1999. As I mentioned in one of my earlier posts I have been fortunate in that the line of treatment has been so well documented that there has never been any question about the cause of the injury. While they have yet to refuse me they have played some irritating games of passive-aggressive and more than one medical vendor has passed on my case because of the time it takes for them to get paid.

                                           


                                          From: owcp@yahoogroups.com [mailto:owcp@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Felicia
                                          Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 5:34 PM
                                          To: owcp@yahoogroups.com
                                          Subject: Re: [owcp] Re: insurance and retirement

                                           

                                          How long did it take before you were considered at a
                                          medical end point? I have some kind of brain damage,
                                          which is not treatable, although they could give me
                                          medication to mitigate the anxiety, etc. I've been this
                                          way for two years. I was told that eventually they would
                                          try to settle out of court with some kind of lump sum, if
                                          it looked like I was never going to get any better.
                                          Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had gone through
                                          anything like that. (Oh, and my husband's suggestion was
                                          to get a lawyer.) -- Felicia

                                          >> > I got one of these lovely letters as well; figured it
                                          >> was
                                          >> > pro forma red tape
                                          >> > and rat race.
                                          >> >
                                          >> > Then, yesterday, a large confusing packet arrived
                                          >> > including medical
                                          >> > re-evaluation forms and reporting of all income over
                                          >> the
                                          >> > past 15 months. As
                                          >> > I am considered to be at 'medical end point' (a lovely
                                          >> > phrase in itself), I
                                          >> > have no doctors following my case.
                                          >> >
                                          >> > This past spring, my compensation was cut by a third,
                                          >> > because I am released
                                          >> > for part time work (with fairly limiting restrictions,
                                          >> > including 15 minute
                                          >> > breaks for every hour worked). That there are no jobs
                                          >> in
                                          >> > my area that fit
                                          >> > both my restrictions and my qualifications, that I
                                          >> have
                                          >> > applied for a number
                                          >> > of jobs without success, that the pay rate that they
                                          >> are
                                          >> > calculating the
                                          >> > reduction on is not the compensation offered in this
                                          >> area
                                          >> > - none of that
                                          >> > seems to matter. The "job counselor" provided by the
                                          >> OWCP
                                          >> > was from another
                                          >> > state, met with me a total of five times, never
                                          >> offered
                                          >> > any sort of job
                                          >> > training or performed even basic skills assessments.
                                          >> >
                                          >> > The whole is immensely disheartening and depressing.
                                          >> As I
                                          >> > pointed out in a
                                          >> > letter to the OWCP, when I left my job for Peace Corps
                                          >> > service six years ago
                                          >> > (I served three years in
                                          w:st="on">Armenia ) I had medical
                                          >> insurance,
                                          >> > a pension plan,
                                          >> > and a higher rate of take home pay than my current
                                          >> > compensation. Now I have
                                          >> > no insurance, no pension plan, and I miss the Federal
                                          >> > Poverty Standard by
                                          >> > $3,016.
                                          >> >
                                          >> > Disability is not my career choice; this is not the
                                          >> life I
                                          >> > wanted nor the
                                          >> > one I would choose.
                                          >> >
                                          >> > Meg Wallace, RPCV (
                                          w:st="on">Armenia , 2000- 2003)
                                          >> >
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                                        • Heidi Fassnacht
                                          when i ve been between things, i ve applied for short term major medical. i was told if i applied for any kind of regular insurance, i would only be accepted
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                                            when i've been between things, i've applied for short
                                            term major medical. i was told if i applied for any
                                            kind of regular insurance, i would only be accepted
                                            with riders, which would basically black list me for
                                            the future. usually you can get short term stuff that
                                            can be renewed a couple times. i doesn't covered
                                            regular stuff (probably whatever expenses you have
                                            assoc with your PC injury/illness) but would cover you
                                            in the event of a big accident.

                                            i tried applying for SSD not too long after i returned
                                            home. the process is long and i was told that pretty
                                            much everyone is denied first time round. so it
                                            likely depends on how much time you have to deal with
                                            this.

                                            heidi

                                            >
                                            > Speaking of insurance, what do people on this list
                                            > do for
                                            > insurance? My husband is going to be changing jobs
                                            > and
                                            > will be losing his benefits. Should I apply for SSD
                                            > or
                                            > something? -- Felicia


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                                          • Felicia
                                            We re considering just major medical, but getting sick and seeing the doctor, seeing the GYN, and dealing with other regular problems aren t covered, which
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                                              We're considering just major medical, but getting sick and
                                              seeing the doctor, seeing the GYN, and dealing with other
                                              regular problems aren't covered, which will mean I will
                                              have to pay a lot out of pocket. What I need is major
                                              medical plus GYN coverage. As for SSD, if I start looking
                                              like I'll ever recover, then I probably won't go for it.
                                              However, it has been 2 years and I'm still completely
                                              unable to work. *shrug* I've written a letter to the
                                              OWCP asking about the insurance issue. Perhaps they'll
                                              have something useful to say. -- Felicia

                                              > when i've been between things, i've applied for short
                                              > term major medical. i was told if i applied for any
                                              > kind of regular insurance, i would only be accepted
                                              > with riders, which would basically black list me for
                                              > the future. usually you can get short term stuff that
                                              > can be renewed a couple times. i doesn't covered
                                              > regular stuff (probably whatever expenses you have
                                              > assoc with your PC injury/illness) but would cover you
                                              > in the event of a big accident.
                                              >
                                              > i tried applying for SSD not too long after i returned
                                              > home. the process is long and i was told that pretty
                                              > much everyone is denied first time round. so it
                                              > likely depends on how much time you have to deal with
                                              > this.
                                              >
                                              > heidi
                                              >
                                              >>
                                              >> Speaking of insurance, what do people on this list
                                              >> do for
                                              >> insurance? My husband is going to be changing jobs
                                              >> and
                                              >> will be losing his benefits. Should I apply for SSD
                                              >> or
                                              >> something? -- Felicia
                                              >
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                                            • Kaericsson@cs.com
                                              In Minnesota, the only insurance that someone who has developed a mental disorder(such as I have) can get is through the MN Comprehensive Health Program, which
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                                                In Minnesota, the only insurance that someone who has developed a mental disorder(such as I have) can get is through the MN Comprehensive Health Program, which is now administered through Medica. It is the most pricey insurance in Minnesota, though a little less so if you don't inhale tobacco.

                                                In my case OWCP covers all my psychiatric services (office visits, hospitalization, meds and lab work) and Medica does co-pay on the rest (annual physicals, etc -- anything not directly related to my Peace Corps disability.) Medica might also do co-pay on the Peace Corps disability, but OWCP is comprehensive there, it just is cumbersome and works like a bear.

                                                Anyway, in the end OWCP has always come through. I have been in the OWCP system for 18 years -- you just have to hang in there and "don't panic."
                                                What can you do, all health insurance agencies often goof up.

                                                I know that not everyone "has it so good." Other states have different insurance systems.

                                                Good luck.

                                                Kriste

                                                Heidi Fassnacht <riverock5@...> wrote:

                                                >when i've been between things, i've applied for short
                                                >term major medical. i was told if i applied for any
                                                >kind of regular insurance, i would only be accepted
                                                >with riders, which would basically black list me for
                                                >the future. usually you can get short term stuff that
                                                >can be renewed a couple times. i doesn't covered
                                                >regular stuff (probably whatever expenses you have
                                                >assoc with your PC injury/illness) but would cover you
                                                >in the event of a big accident.
                                                >
                                                >i tried applying for SSD not too long after i returned
                                                >home. the process is long and i was told that pretty
                                                >much everyone is denied first time round. so it
                                                >likely depends on how much time you have to deal with
                                                >this.
                                                >
                                                >heidi
                                                >
                                                >>
                                                >> Speaking of insurance, what do people on this list
                                                >> do for
                                                >> insurance? My husband is going to be changing jobs
                                                >> and
                                                >> will be losing his benefits. Should I apply for SSD
                                                >> or
                                                >> something? -- Felicia
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