- Aug 16
John affirmed his belief in a literal Eternal Recurrence shortly before he passed. My own view is that all metaphysics is a sort of picture language meant to impress us to follow a given ethic. Christianity with its heaven above and hell below is meant to say that “one thing is needful,” to ask for forgiveness and escape an unforgiven fate. This is true even if there is a heaven and hell above. Agnostically, it doesn’t matter if there is a heaven and hell; rhetorically, they are just saying it is good to seek to forgive and be forgiven. Likewise, Nietzsche, who suffered his daily life, created a metaphysics that recommended he accept that very life, without seeking for one better after the grave. Amor fati. His metaphysics is a justification for amor fati. The question is, can we say “Yes” in this way, if this is just a parable that is not literally scientifically true? John took it as literally true. Nietzsche seemed to suffer profoundly from the idea that it might be literally true, and may have backed off from it as a scientific idea.
It is a metaphysics, sure, but as to whether it is scientifically sound? Science changes too much to base an ethics upon. Rather than asking IF it is true, ask how life lives when we ASSUME it to be true.
Daniel
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Subject: [Our Pal Nietzsche ] Is Eternal Recurrence a valid concept at all?A week or 2 back, my "other half" asked me what I made of the concept of Eternal Recurrence. She has read Twilight of the Idols and knows something of N's ideas, and was finding ER a weirdly intriguing concept. She was tending to view it as a physical, objective thing, a series of Big Bangs creating new universes where every single thing goes exactly as in the previous universes. I don't think N really subscribed to such a notion, certainly as he first mentions it in print - Section 341 of The Gay Science - where he's concerned with how we might react to being told (by some demon) that, for sure, ER is reality; could we live our lives such a way that we'd rejoice at the prospect of an exact repetition of it ad inf. In my view that's the only value of ER, and I don't credit it with any physical actuality whatsoever. I'd be very interested to hear what others make of it.
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