Re: : Blacklisted Groups Visible on Web
- Im sorry, but neither this list nor the The Intelligence Network will be a
party to any public "list" that is generated for the purposes mentioned
The Intelligence Network
"When in the Course of human Events, it
becomes necessary for one People to
dissolve the Political Bands which have
connected them with another..."
-Declaration of Independence (1776)
- At 2:23 AM +0000 12/1/01, Bill Draper wrote:
>--- In osint@y..., Graham.Webb5@B... wrote:*Precisely* at the moment when it's no longer just a yokel in
> > All I'm suggesting is we make a list of the
> > groups posting hatred -- left, right, Christian,
> > or Muslim -- and where it's stored *PHYSICALLY*
> > on the internet.
>It's an old idea, and usually not successful. But how do you define
>hatred? In creating your blacklist, what comprises hate content?
>Who decides? Sometimes it's easy, but where do you draw the line
>between hatred and dissent? Who do you allow to continue to use the
>Internet and who do you try to force off?
>When do you decide access to international servers should no longer
cyberspace making a list, and, instead, a government agency.
>Should international sites be mirrored at all? China[...]
>doesn't think so, because subversive content should not be allowed on
>government servers. They simply decided everything international was
>subversive. We could do the same if we decide to stifle dissent
>The bookburners believe in free speech as well - as long as they
>decided what is said and written. Few people approve of or want to
>spread hatred, but everybody seems to disagree when lines start being
>drawn and blacklists start including issues they believe in.
>Do you know how to draw those lines without infringing on the rights of"Draw those lines" is a euphemism. If all Graham.Webb5@B... is doing
>others to speak their piece?
is posting a list of ISP's with shady clients, he's engaging in his
*own* "free speech" (in any place which will allow it, mindful of
their own property rights) and violating no one else's in the process.
>Or is that not part of your idea of what America should be?Most "Americans", in my observation, don't know the difference
between censorship and boycotts.
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