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  • Rev Fr Mark Gilstrap
    The guidelines below have worked well for several lists over the years. The biggest difference between YahooGroups lists such as this, and Listserv lists such
    Message 1 of 7 , Jan 1, 2004
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      The guidelines below have worked well for several
      lists over the years. The biggest difference
      between YahooGroups lists such as this, and Listserv
      lists such as the ORTHODOX list at Indiana U is
      that Yahoo provides no mechanism for automatically
      limiting the number of postings per person day.

      The ORTHODOX list limits postings to two per day.
      This is sufficient if you consolidate your replies
      by subject. If your response is to a individual
      poster it is better made off-list. Please self-
      limit your daily postings.

      -----------

      Periodic re-posting

      Some list guidelines adapted from the those
      found (by Athanasius Thompson) at the
      Cincinnati Linux Users Group

      =============================

      Keep messages on-topic. This is a group
      centered on issues of interest and benefit
      to the Russian Orthodox Church Abroad
      - the "Synod." This list started more
      than ten years ago as the first sub-list of
      ORTHODOX@... , and as such
      has similar guidelines as well as an above
      average diversity of participants.

      Orthodox-Synod, with about 575 members,
      is one of the very largest Orthodox lists on the
      internet. Please use your access responsibly.

      Orthodox-Synod is not a bulletin board for
      posting items for as many people as possible
      to see. Your purpose in contributing should be
      to seek information and explanations etc.. or to
      inform, enrich or edify others, or to seek and
      build orthodox community and mutual understanding,
      connect the isolated, support the struggles of
      others, reflect the love of Christ, support His
      Church and promote the centrality of the Life in
      Christ, not to put something (esp. oneself) on
      display.

      "Praise in public; criticize in private." Some
      disagreements are inevitable but take flames
      off-line from the list.

      Post to the LIST (to all members), not to an
      individual. Personal mail should be private mail.
      Proclamations to the LIST about an individual
      are not allowed.

      Speak to the truth of the facts, quality of the
      premises, and logic of the conclusions of the
      other participants, not to their person (ad hominem).
      If you put another person's name in the subject
      line, you have already crossed the line.

      If you must correct factual errors on the list, be
      polite and correct just the facts. Don't attack
      the author - be careful about uses of "you" and
      "your" in such replies, since they can make the
      response appear to be personal.

      Consider whether your message is really worth
      sending to hundreds of people. If it is, don't
      hesitate.

      Do not send or attach entire documents to the
      list. Send a URL (web address) where interested
      readers can find it. Or offer to send it to those
      who request it.

      See http://www.makeashorterlink.com/ for help
      reducing the size of long links

      Don't send "me too" messages. One-line replies
      of agreement are wasteful. But feel free to respond
      if you have more to say than simple agreement (or
      disagreement - i.e. zingers).

      Remove most of the words quoted from messages
      to which you reply. Delete all but the most relevant
      text which is necessary to establish the context for
      your reply. Keeping an entire thread intact in every
      message is strongly discouraged. Top posting is not
      discouraged as it is on some lists since it is more
      efficient if the entire thread history is not required.

      **** Do not quote more lines of a message than you
      **** actually write yourself.

      If you didn't write it, or you haven't contributed
      anything to a posting's composition, haven't made
      clear its relevance or defined the context (or have
      violated any other guideline), ask yourself why you
      are thinking of sending it.

      Do not post private email correspondence on the
      lists without the permission of the author of the email.
      Private email is just that -- private.

      Not only does this list prohibit non-consensual posting
      of private mail, it also prohibits the consensual posting
      of private mail as a means for a non-member to participate
      at arms-length through others. Such "proxy posting" has
      been the source of many woes.

      "Proxy Posting" is defined as the remote participation on
      a list (by non-member or member) through the posting
      privilege of a third party who is a member of the list. This
      activity is not
      allowed.

      Proxy posting can allow avoidance of personalresponsibility
      for what one says. In this hair-trigger environment we want
      people to be more, not less, responsible. Religious discussions are
      especially prone to abuse in this realm.

      Think twice before cross-posting messages to the Synod
      list and other forums.

      Keep your e-mail signature short - 5 lines or fewer.
      This includes the -- separator line, allowing for up
      to four lines of content.

      Dense text is especially hard to read on a monitor.
      Remember the printed medium guide:

      "White space increases readership"

      Do not BCC anything to the lists - many people have
      mail filters which sort messages into a separate mailbox,
      based on the address on the message. Failure to put the
      list address in the message headers will mess up the mail
      filing for a lot of poeple.

      Members of the Orthodox-Synod list agree to abide by
      the above guidelines. The list owner reserves the right to
      restrict access to anyone from the email list for

      1.Repeated off-topic postings.
      2.Repeated personal attacks.
      3.Repeated disruptive behavior

      Do not sup at your neighbor's table and ridicule the host.
      Criticism of the decisions of ROCA hierarchs is one thing,
      and can be acceptable, but proclamations of judgement on
      ROCA or her hierarchs regarding such things as falling
      into heresy, or schism, or union with the same coming from
      those who are not members of this juridiction are not
      proper to this forum. One would have thought this last
      paragraph unnecessary ....
    • Rev Fr Mark Gilstrap
      Periodic re-posting emphasis this round: Proxy Posting is defined as the remote participation on a list (by non-member, or member) through the posting
      Message 2 of 7 , Sep 8 6:09 AM
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        Periodic re-posting

        emphasis this round:
        "Proxy Posting" is defined as the remote participation
        on a list (by non-member, or member) through the posting
        privilege of a third party who is a member of the list.
        This activity is not allowed.

        -------------

        Some list guidelines adapted from the
        those found (by Athanasius Thompson)
        at the Cincinnati Linux Users Group

        =============================

        Keep messages on-topic. This is a group
        centered on issues of interest and benefit
        to the Russian Orthodox Church Abroad
        - the "Synod." This list started more
        than ten years ago as the first sub-list
        of ORTHODOX@..., and as such
        has similar guidelines -- as well as an
        above average diversity of participants.

        Orthodox-Synod, with about 590 members,
        is one of the very largest Orthodox lists
        on the internet. Please use your access
        responsibly.

        Orthodox-Synod is not a bulletin board
        for posting items for as many people as
        possible to see.

        Your purpose in contributing should be to
        seek information and explanations etc..
        or to inform, enrich or edify others, or
        to seek and build orthodox community and
        mutual understanding, connect the isolated,
        support the struggles of others, reflect
        the love of Christ, support His Church and
        promote the centrality of the Life in Christ,
        not to put something (esp. oneself) on
        display.

        Consider whether your message is really
        worth sending to hundreds of people. If
        it is, don't hesitate.

        Do not send or attach entire documents to
        the list. Send a URL (web address) where
        interested readers can find it. Or offer
        to send it to those who request it.

        See http://www.makeashorterlink.com/ for
        help reducing the size of long links

        Remove most of the words quoted from messages
        to which you reply. Delete all but the most
        relevant text which is necessary to establish
        the context for your reply. Keeping an entire
        thread intact in every message is discouraged.
        History is instead maintained by Subject title
        (so make sure it is releveant) and by date in
        the archives. Top posting is not discouraged
        since it is more efficient when the entire
        thread history is not required.

        Don't send "me too" messages. One-line replies
        of agreement are wasteful. But feel free to
        respond if you have more to say than simple
        agreement (or disagreement - i.e. zingers).

        General rule of thumb:

        **** Do not quote more lines of a message
        **** than you have yourself written.

        If you didn't write it, haven't contributed
        anything to a posting's composition, haven't
        made clear its relevance or defined the
        context (or have violated any other guideline),
        ask yourself why you are thinking of sending it.

        Post to the LIST (to all members), not to an
        individual. Personal mail should be private
        mail. Proclamations to the LIST about an
        individual are not allowed.

        Speak to the truth of the facts, quality of
        the premises, and logic of the conclusions
        of the other participants, not to their person
        (ad hominem). If you put another person's
        name in the subject line, you have already
        crossed the line.

        If you must correct factual errors on the
        list, be polite and correct just the facts.
        Don't attack the author - be careful about
        uses of "you" and "your" in such replies,
        since they can make the response appear to
        be personal.

        "Praise in public; criticize in private."
        Some disagreements are inevitable but take
        flames off-line from the list.

        If membership to this list constitutes the
        basis for private harassment (such as a
        service provider would consider abuse, not
        just negative feedback) send the evidence
        to owner-orthodox-synod@yahoogroups.com and
        the abusive member will be contacted to
        provide and explanation/rebuttal before
        removal.

        To stop undesired private feedback to your
        public postings, inform the sender that you
        do not wish to correspond privately (tell
        them to stop). If it continues it will be
        considered to meet the definition of abuse
        above and the offending member will be
        removed.

        Do not post private email correspondence on
        the lists without the permission of the author
        of the email. Private email is just that --
        private.

        Not only does this list prohibit non-consensual
        posting of private mail, it also prohibits the
        consensual posting of private mail as a means
        for a non-member to participate at arms-length
        through others. Such "proxy posting" has been
        the source of many woes.

        "Proxy Posting" is defined as the remote participation
        on a list (by non-member, or member) through the posting
        privilege of a third party who is a member of the list.
        This activity is not allowed.

        Proxy posting can allow avoidance of personal
        responsibility for what one says. In this hair-
        trigger environment we want people to be more,
        not less, responsible. Religious discussions
        are especially prone to abuse in this realm.

        Think twice before cross-posting messages to the
        Synod list and other forums.

        Keep your e-mail signature short - 5 lines or fewer.
        This includes the -- separator line, allowing for
        up to four lines of content.

        Dense text is especially hard to read on a monitor.
        Remember the printed medium guide:

        "White space increases readership"

        Do not BCC anything to the lists - many people have
        mail filters which sort messages into a separate mailbox,
        based on the address on the message. Failure to put the
        list address in the message headers will mess up the mail
        filing for a lot of poeple.

        Members of the Orthodox-Synod list agree to abide by
        the above guidelines. The list owner reserves the right to
        restrict access to anyone from the email list for

        1.Repeated off-topic postings.
        2.Repeated personal attacks.
        3.Repeated disruptive behavior

        priest Mark
      • Rev Fr Mark Gilstrap
        Christ is Risen! =============================== LIST GUIDLEINES (Periodic re-posting) emphasis this round: Number of posts per day. The ORTHODOX list at
        Message 3 of 7 , May 25, 2005
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          Christ is Risen!

          ===============================

          LIST GUIDLEINES (Periodic re-posting)

          emphasis this round:

          Number of posts per day.

          The ORTHODOX list at Indiana University
          which spawned this list runs under the
          software package called LISTSERV. It
          has many features not available through
          yahoogroups. One of those features is
          the ability to limit the number of posts
          per person per day.

          In the '80s we were able to establish a
          voluntary restriction of "2 or 3" postings
          per day, but as time went by the hegemonist
          imperative to dominate the forum by repetitive
          postings overcame far too many people. It
          was then necessary to impose the administrative
          tool in LISTSERV and limit postings to 2 per
          day.

          Yahoogroups does not provide such a function,
          so I call upon each of you to voluntarily
          limit your frequency of posting. Thank you.

          ===============================

          Some list guidelines adapted from the
          those found (by Athanasius Thompson)
          at the Cincinnati Linux Users Group

          -------------

          Keep messages on-topic. This is a group
          centered on issues of interest and benefit
          to the Russian Orthodox Church Abroad
          - the "Synod." This list started more
          than ten years ago as the first sub-list
          of ORTHODOX@..., and as such
          has similar guidelines -- as well as an
          above average diversity of participants.

          Orthodox-Synod, with about 760 members
          (250 more than 6 months ago).is one of
          the very largest Orthodox lists on the
          internet.
          Please use your access responsibly.

          Orthodox-Synod is not a bulletin board
          for posting items for as many people as
          possible to see.

          Your purpose in contributing should be to
          seek information and explanations etc..
          or to inform, enrich or edify others, or
          to seek and build orthodox community and
          mutual understanding, connect the isolated,
          support the struggles of others, reflect
          the love of Christ, support His Church and
          promote the centrality of the Life in Christ,
          not to put something (esp. oneself) on
          display.

          Consider whether your message is really
          worth sending to hundreds of people. If
          it is, don't hesitate.

          Do not send or attach entire documents to
          the list. Send a URL (web address) where
          interested readers can find it. Or offer
          to send it to those who request it.

          See http://www.makeashorterlink.com/ for
          help reducing the size of long links

          Remove most of the words quoted from messages
          to which you reply. Delete all but the most
          relevant text which is necessary to establish
          the context for your reply. Keeping an entire
          thread intact in every message is discouraged.
          History is instead maintained in the archives
          by Subject title (so make sure it is relevant)
          and by date. Top posting is not discouraged
          since it is more efficient when the entire
          thread history is not required.

          Don't send "me too" messages. One-line replies
          of agreement are wasteful. But feel free to
          respond if you have more to say than simple
          agreement (or disagreement - i.e. zingers).

          General rule of thumb:

          **** Do not quote more lines of a message
          **** than you have yourself written.

          If you didn't write it, haven't contributed
          anything to a posting's composition, haven't
          made clear its relevance or defined the
          context (or have violated any other guideline),
          ask yourself why you are thinking of sending it.

          Post to the LIST (to all members), not to an
          individual. Personal mail should be private
          mail. Proclamations to the LIST about an
          individual are not allowed.

          Speak to the truth of the facts, quality of
          the premises, and logic of the conclusions
          of the other participants, not to their person
          (ad hominem). If you put another person's
          name in the subject line, you have already
          crossed the line.

          If you must correct factual errors on the
          list, be polite and correct just the facts.
          Don't attack the author - be careful about
          uses of "you" and "your" in such replies,
          since they can make the response appear to
          be personal.

          "Praise in public; criticize in private."
          Some disagreements are inevitable but take
          flames off-line from the list.

          If membership to this list constitutes the
          basis for private harassment (such as a
          service provider would consider abuse, not
          just negative feedback) send the evidence
          to owner-orthodox-synod@yahoogroups.com and
          the abusive member will be contacted to
          provide an acceptable explanation/rebuttal
          in lieu of removal.

          To stop undesired private feedback to your
          public postings, inform the sender that you
          do not wish to correspond privately (tell
          them to stop). If it continues it will be
          considered to meet the definition of abuse
          above and the offending member will be
          removed.

          Do not post private email correspondence on
          the lists without the permission of the author
          of the email. Private email is just that --
          private.

          Not only does this list prohibit non-consensual
          posting of private mail, it also prohibits the
          consensual posting of private mail as a means
          for a non-member to participate at arms-length
          through others. Such "proxy posting" has been
          the source of many woes.

          "Proxy Posting" is defined as the remote
          participation on a list (by non-member,
          or member) through the posting privilege
          of a third party who is a member of the
          list. This activity is not allowed.

          Proxy posting can allow avoidance of personal
          responsibility for what one says. In this
          hair-trigger environment we want people to be
          more, not less, responsible. Religious
          discussions are particularly prone to abuse
          in this realm.

          Think twice before cross-posting messages to
          the Synod list and other forums. Have you ever
          wondered about postinsg taht seem to be coming
          out of left field with no context ro hostory?
          They are probably a cross-posting from elsewhere.
          If you want to introduce to thsi list a topic
          being discussed elsewhere, start a new thread.

          Keep your e-mail signature short - 5 lines or fewer.
          This includes the -- separator line, allowing for
          up to four lines of content.

          Dense text is especially hard to read on a monitor.
          Remember the printed medium guide:

          "White space increases readership"

          Do not BCC anything to the lists - many people have
          mail filters which sort messages into a separate mailbox,
          based on the address on the message. Failure to put the
          list address in the message headers will mess up the mail
          filing for a lot of poeple.

          Members of the Orthodox-Synod list agree to abide by
          the above guidelines. The list owner reserves the right to
          restrict access to anyone from the email list for

          1.Repeated off-topic postings.
          2.Repeated personal attacks.
          3.Repeated disruptive behavior

          Thank you!

          Truly He is Risen!

          priest Mark
        • Rev Fr Mark Gilstrap
          LIST GUIDEINES (Periodic re-posting) =============================== Welcome to the ORTHODOX-SYNOD group This Yahoo Group is a continuation of the
          Message 4 of 7 , Jul 6, 2006
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            LIST GUIDEINES (Periodic re-posting)

            ===============================

            Welcome to the ORTHODOX-SYNOD group

            This Yahoo Group is a continuation of
            the Orthodox_Synod mailing list spun
            off as a sub-list of ORTHODOX@...
            beginning in the early '90s.

            The moderator continues to be priest
            Mark Gilstrap (www.stjamesok.org)

            I hope you will find the Synod list
            informative and enjoyable. Please be
            assured that you are welcome to
            participate to whatever degree you wish,
            or to simply read, if you prefer.

            Please make sure your real name appears
            on your subscription. Aliases are not
            allowed, nor are organizational names
            allowed w/o a specific responsible human
            being listed. If you feel strongly that
            using your real name is detrimental for
            some reason, please contact me privately
            and confidentially, to explain.

            The following are some list guidelines
            adapted from those found at the Cincinnati
            Linux Users Group (by Athanasius Thompson
            who hosted this list at geckonet in 1997)

            -------------

            Keep messages on-topic. This is a group
            centered on issues of interest and benefit
            to the Russian Orthodox Church Abroad
            aka "the Synod" This list started about
            fifteen years ago as the first sub-list
            of ORTHODOX@..., and as such
            has similar guidelines -- and also an
            above average diversity of participants.

            Orthodox-Synod, with about 850 members
            is one of the largest Orthodox lists on
            the internet. Please use your access
            responsibly.

            Orthodox-Synod is not a bulletin board
            for posting items for as many people as
            possible to see.

            Your purpose in contributing should be to
            seek information and explanations etc..
            or to inform, enrich or edify others, or
            to seek and build orthodox community and
            mutual understanding, connect the isolated,
            support the struggles of others, reflect
            the love of Christ, support His Church and
            promote the centrality of the Life in Christ,
            not to put something (esp. oneself) on
            display.

            Consider whether your message is really
            worth sending to hundreds of people. If
            it is, don't hesitate.

            Do not send or attach entire documents to
            the list. Send a URL (web address) where
            interested readers can find it. Or offer
            to send it to those who request it.

            See http://www.makeashorterlink.com/ for
            help reducing the size of long links

            Remove most of the words quoted from messages
            to which you reply. Delete all but the most
            relevant text which is necessary to establish
            the context for your reply. Keeping an entire
            thread intact in every message is discouraged.
            History is instead maintained in the archives
            by Subject title (so make sure it is relevant)
            and by date. Top posting is not discouraged
            since it is more efficient when the entire
            thread history is not required.

            Don't send "me too" messages. One-line replies
            of agreement are wasteful. But feel free to
            respond if you have more to say than simple
            agreement (or disagreement - i.e. zingers).

            General rule of thumb:

            **** Do not quote more lines of a message
            **** than you have yourself written.

            If you didn't write it, haven't contributed
            anything to a posting's composition, haven't
            made clear its relevance or defined the
            context (or have violated any other guideline),
            ask yourself why you are thinking of sending it.

            Post to the LIST (to all members), not to an
            individual. Personal mail should be private
            mail.

            Proclamations to the LIST about an individual
            are not allowed.

            Speak to the truth of the facts, quality of
            the premises, and logic of the conclusions
            of the other participants, not to their person
            (ad hominem). If you put another person's
            name in the subject line, you have already
            crossed the line.

            If you must correct factual errors on the
            list, be polite and correct just the facts.
            Don't attack the author - be careful about
            uses of "you" and "your" in such replies,
            since they can make the response appear to
            be personal.

            "Praise in public; criticize in private."
            Some disagreements are inevitable but take
            flames off-line from the list.

            If membership to this list constitutes the
            basis for private harassment (such as a
            service provider would consider abuse, not
            just negative feedback) send the evidence
            to owner-orthodox-synod@yahoogroups.com and
            the abusive member will be contacted to
            provide an acceptable explanation/rebuttal
            in lieu of removal.

            To stop undesired private feedback to your
            public postings, inform the sender that you
            do not wish to correspond privately (tell
            them to stop). If it continues it will be
            considered to meet the definition of abuse
            above and the offending member will be
            removed.

            Do not post private email correspondence
            without the permission of the author of
            the email. Private email is just that --
            private.

            Not only does this list prohibit non-consensual
            posting of private mail, it also prohibits the
            consensual posting of private mail as a means
            for a non-member to participate at arms-length
            through others. Such "proxy posting" has been
            the source of many woes.

            "Proxy Posting" is defined as the remote
            participation on a list (by non-member,
            or member) through the posting privilege
            of a third party who is a member of the
            list. This activity is not allowed.

            Proxy posting can allow avoidance of personal
            responsibility for what one says. In this
            hair-trigger environment we want people to
            be more, not less, responsible. Religious
            discussions are particularly prone to abuse
            in this realm.

            Think twice before cross-posting messages to
            the Synod list and other forums. Have you ever
            wondered about postings that seem to be coming
            out of left field without context or history?
            This is probably a cross-posting from elsewhere.
            If you want to introduce to this list a topic
            being discussed elsewhere, start a new thread.

            Keep your e-mail signature short - 5 lines or
            fewer. This includes the -- separator line,
            allowing for up to four lines of content.

            Dense text is especially hard to read on a
            monitor. Remember the printed medium guide:

            "White space increases readership"

            Do not BCC anything to the lists - many people
            have mail filters which sort messages into a
            separate mailbox, based on the address on the
            message. Failure to put the list address in
            the message headers will mess up the mail filing
            for a lot of people.

            Members of the Orthodox-Synod list agree to
            abide by the above guidelines. The list owner
            reserves the right to restrict access to anyone
            from the email list for

            1.Repeated off-topic postings.
            2.Repeated personal attacks.
            3.Repeated disruptive behavior
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