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Re: Seattle Catholic - Photos from Mel Gibson's Latin Movie, The Passion

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  • orthodoxchurch_sg
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    Message 1 of 5 , Aug 8, 2003
      --- In orthodox-synod@yahoogroups.com, "frpeterjackson"
      <frpeterjackson@y...> wrote:
      > --- In orthodox-synod@yahoogroups.com, "orthodoxchurch_sg"
      > <orthodoxchurch_sg@y...> wrote:
      > > --- In orthodox-synod@yahoogroups.com, "stefanvpavlenko"
      > > <StefanVPavlenko@n...> wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Those pictures truly make one think about what Our Lord Jesus
      > REALLY
      > > > suffered!
      > > >
      > > Evlogeite!

      > I'm glad you mentioned this. I am writing a piece on this very
      > right now. I appreciate Mr. Gibson's courageous stand for Christ,
      > he has been pilloried in the media, but the fact remains that the
      > film has serious drawbacks. First, there is the issue you mention:
      > Can Christ be portrayed in a film? Some would argue that such a
      > can be a powerful and effective tool for leading someone to Christ.
      > Perhaps. I maintain that the most powerful visual tool is an icon
      > Christ and of his Crucifixion. Of course the Resurrection is
      > inseparable from the Passion, but the film in question stops at our
      > Lord's death. And the most powerful aural tool is the Holy Thursday
      > Matins of the Twelve Passion Gospels.
      > Gibson's film was not based solely on Scripture and Orthodox
      > Tradition. He makes no bones about the fact that he bases it on the
      > purported visions of an 18th cent. mystic, Anne Catherine Emmerich,
      > who claimed God showed her a vision of what "really" happened at
      > Crucifixion. She also claimed to have had visions of every single
      > of Christ 3 1/2 yr. ministry and of the creation of the world.
      > decided to make his film after a copy of Emmerich's
      > book "miraculously" fell into his hands.
      > Western views of Christ's sacrifice emphasize His victimhood over
      > victory. This is why RC depictions are often so gory. The more
      > and guts we see, the more we are assured of our salvation, the
      > goes. But in Orthodox icons, Christ is the "the King of Glory" and
      > little blood is depicted, if any. This is because in the West, sin
      > and grace are quantifiable commodities, so the more Christ
      > the better for us. For a Western Christian, then, it is
      > comforting to view the blood and gore. In Orthodox thought,
      > what is salient is the fact that Christ died, not how much He may
      > have suffered. His death trampled down death, so that His rising
      > might bestow life. A film such as Gibson's which stops at the
      > of Christ's death misses the boat. It is not uncommon for RC films
      > Christ to omit the Resurrection. For them the Crucifixion is
      > more central to their piety, while the Resurrection is often viewed
      > as an epilogue.
      > A correspondent of mine noted that if we were present at the actual
      > Crucifixion, we would indeed have seen the blood and gore Gibson
      > presents to his audience. True enough. But neither the Gospel
      > accounts nor our iconography nor our hymnography revel in all this
      > morbidity as the West does.
      > We need to support traditional-minded Christians like Mel Gibson
      > they are being attacked by our culture. But this does not mean we
      > should view, support or recommend his film. It is scheduled to be
      > released around Pascha next year. I shudder to think of Orthodox
      > Christians going to see this film to "supplement" their worship. I
      > shudder even more to contemplate those who might see the film
      > of attending Passion Week services.
      > Fr. Peter Jackson

      Many thanks for your thoughtful response to my question. I had not
      realised that Mr Gibson's film ended before the Resurrection. For
      this reason alone, I suggest, it cannot be consistant with our
      Orthodox Faith.
      Paradoxically, Pasolini's "Gospel of Matthew" (for which I retain a
      pre-conversion 'soft-spot', despite my qualms about a man 'playing'
      our Saviour) goes right to the end - cinematigraphically, a wonderful
      appearance of the Angel to the Myrrh-bearers, and beyond) because, as
      a communist-atheist, he saw the Gospel as a literature text and
      included everything!
      Fr Daniel
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