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  • ochichernie2
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    Message 1 of 31 , Jun 28, 2003
      --- In orthodox-synod@yahoogroups.com, "Fr. John R. Shaw"
      <vrevjrs@e...> wrote:
      > "ochichernie2" wrote:
      >
      > > I would just like to know if Metr. Philaret:
      > >
      > > a) publicly or privately admonished any of his clergy for
      > > concelebrating with Serbs 1983-1985(or anyone else) *even if* he
      > > could not officially interfere in what they did. Admonishment
      is
      > > not the same as actually interfering.
      >
      > JRS: A few months before his repose, Metropolitan Philaret visited
      > Chicago, or rather passed through Chicago and stopped there
      briefly;
      > and a priest from one of our parishes was able to have a talk with
      the
      > Metropolitan in the old Chicago cathedral rectory, upstairs in
      where
      > Vl. Seraphim and Vl. Alypy lived.
      >
      > This priest asked the Metropolitan point-blank, was it all right
      to
      > concelebrate with the Serbs?
      >
      > Metropolitan Philaret replied, in Russian: "Ne vospreschaetsja, no
      > luchshe vozderzhivat'sja" -- "It is not prohibited, but it is
      better to
      > abstain".
      >
      > The priest later recounted this conversation to me, and
      said, "What
      > kind of an answer is that? If it is not prohibited, why is
      it 'better
      > to abstain'?"
      >
      > At any rate, this seems to have been typical of the late
      Metropolitan's
      > comments on the subject.
      >
      > I think that should answer all your other points...
      >
      > In Christ
      > Fr. John R. Shaw
      _________________________________________________________
      Dear Fr. John, Bless!
      Thank you very much for this pertinent answer.
      Sincerely,
      DD
    • ochichernie2
      ... is ... briefly; ... the ... where ... to ... better to ... said, What ... it better ... Metropolitan s ...
      Message 31 of 31 , Jun 28, 2003
        --- In orthodox-synod@yahoogroups.com, "Fr. John R. Shaw"
        <vrevjrs@e...> wrote:
        > "ochichernie2" wrote:
        >
        > > I would just like to know if Metr. Philaret:
        > >
        > > a) publicly or privately admonished any of his clergy for
        > > concelebrating with Serbs 1983-1985(or anyone else) *even if* he
        > > could not officially interfere in what they did. Admonishment
        is
        > > not the same as actually interfering.
        >
        > JRS: A few months before his repose, Metropolitan Philaret visited
        > Chicago, or rather passed through Chicago and stopped there
        briefly;
        > and a priest from one of our parishes was able to have a talk with
        the
        > Metropolitan in the old Chicago cathedral rectory, upstairs in
        where
        > Vl. Seraphim and Vl. Alypy lived.
        >
        > This priest asked the Metropolitan point-blank, was it all right
        to
        > concelebrate with the Serbs?
        >
        > Metropolitan Philaret replied, in Russian: "Ne vospreschaetsja, no
        > luchshe vozderzhivat'sja" -- "It is not prohibited, but it is
        better to
        > abstain".
        >
        > The priest later recounted this conversation to me, and
        said, "What
        > kind of an answer is that? If it is not prohibited, why is
        it 'better
        > to abstain'?"
        >
        > At any rate, this seems to have been typical of the late
        Metropolitan's
        > comments on the subject.
        >
        > I think that should answer all your other points...
        >
        > In Christ
        > Fr. John R. Shaw
        _________________________________________________________
        Dear Fr. John, Bless!
        Thank you very much for this pertinent answer.
        Sincerely,
        DD
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