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  • Mita
    Brothers and sisters in Christ, It is not my intention to stir up a dabate that is not quite appropriete for this list. However, for the sake of truth, I have
    Message 1 of 43 , Nov 1, 2002
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      Brothers and sisters in Christ,

      It is not my intention to stir up a dabate that is not quite appropriete for
      this list. However, for the sake of truth, I have to react since certain
      members of this list are spreading untruths that insults me not only as an
      Orthodox but especially as Orthodox SERB.
      Since I'm having problem posting messages to this list, I hope that
      respected moderator will pass on this massage in case I fail to post it
      properly.
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      On 30 Oct 2002, in the message with subject *Re: Anti Russian Sentiment*,
      Benjamin William Champley Waterhouse" (bwmc_waterhouse@...) wrote:

      "However from a European perspective why is both NATO and the EU
      Godless/socialist? Most socialists hate NATO for being in the first line
      against Godless communism for 40 years and fighting
      communist/socialist/nationalist Milosovic, whose terrorist excesses caused
      the Kosovo crisis in thre first place(as well as the breakup of
      Yugoslavia)."
      ----------------------------------------------------------------------

      Benjamin,

      Don't get me wrong, but the lies and nonsenses that you're spreading are not
      surprising coming from a member (present or former - like there's a
      difference) of a genocidal and criminal organization like NATO.
      It does not concern me that many socialists hate NATO, as it doesn't concern
      any true Orthodox on this planet. What does concern me is the massive lies
      in your message which you will (as will everyone for their sins) have to
      answer for at the LAST JUDGEMENT. For the sake of truth, even though I know
      you will not accept this because your satanic-NATO propaganda says
      differently, I will enlighten you.
      1) Even though Milosevic was never a true nationalist, nor pious man, but a
      socialist and leftist just like many regimes in the EU, he was the
      legitimate President of a sovereign and independant state which was
      confronting an armed uprising and TERRORISM on a part of its territory. What
      you call "terrorist excesses" were legal and legitimate actions of the state
      army and police to stamp out terrorists who were raping, kidnapping and
      murdering innocent people, plundering and destroying churches.... These
      [albanina/muslim] terrorist acts caused the Kosovo crisis!
      2) Do you know who commanded the albanian terrorists in their fight against
      the Serbian police and Army? No one else but Muhamed Al Zavahari,
      Al-Quaida's 3rd man! Together with Ramus Haradinai (an Albanian who today is
      a NATO/KFOR bedfellow) he lead the so-called special forces of the KLA
      (albanian islamic terrorists). This means that Al-Qaida also participated in
      the terrorist actions against Kosovo Serbs and Serbia, but the EU and NATO
      was/is obviously on THEIR SIDE! For us in the Balkans it is a pure double
      standard! When the U.S was attacked in NY and WDC, Bush started a full scale
      attack on Afghanistan which is thousands of miles from the U.S, but when in
      the heart of Serbia terrorists start to kill, rape and plunder - Serbs are
      not allowed to react and defend themselves because NATO will bomb them.
      3) Here are some of the results of your "humanitarian" bombing and your
      campaign against "the regime of Slobodan Milosevic" (which - by the way -
      were taken without approval of the UN security council):
      - in 78 days of bombing 21000 tons of bombs were dropped
      - besides killing 1002 Serbian soldiers, you (NATO) killed over 2000
      innocent people (civilians), includin tens of children.
      - hospitals, schools, markets, churches during the Holy Liturgy and
      residential areas were also bombed,
      - banned radioactive material and banned "cluster" bombs were used
      4) Since the occupation of Serbian Kosovo, albanian muslim terrorists have
      in the presence of NATO troops destroyed over 200 Serbian Orthodox churches
      and monasteries (many built in the Middle Ages), gone on a rampage of
      raping, kidnapping, murdering and plundering Serbs as well as all other
      non-Albanians. Orthodox Serbs on their Kosovo do not have even the basic
      human rights such as right to live, right to freely move, right to work, and
      so on.
      5) Those responsible for the breakup of Yugoslavia were Croats and Bosnian
      muslims who were doing the same thing as albanins in Kosovo (i.e. ethnic
      cleansing of Serbs) for what they were politically and/or financially
      supported by USA, Germany, Turkey, and Vatican/arabic nations. The fact is
      that the Al-Qaida's mujahedeens were engaged in Bosnia on the side of Alija
      Izetbegovic's army who wanted independant Serb-free Iran-like state in heart
      of Europe.
      6) As for the EU, every true Orthodox can see what kind of laws are being
      brought in the member countries of the EU and that is enough to know what
      kind of Order is being created in Europe. The New satanic World Order: one
      government, one monetary system, one army, one court and - one religion.

      Mita,
      Serbia
    • Benjamin William Champley Waterhouse
      Dear Mita I will pray for you With love in Christ Sinner Benjamin ... appropriete for ... certain ... only as an ... post it ... -- ... Sentiment*, ... line
      Message 43 of 43 , Nov 4, 2002
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        Dear Mita

        I will pray for you

        With love in Christ
        Sinner Benjamin
        --- In orthodox-synod@y..., "Mita" <sdk@E...> wrote:
        > Brothers and sisters in Christ,
        >
        > It is not my intention to stir up a dabate that is not quite
        appropriete for
        > this list. However, for the sake of truth, I have to react since
        certain
        > members of this list are spreading untruths that insults me not
        only as an
        > Orthodox but especially as Orthodox SERB.
        > Since I'm having problem posting messages to this list, I hope that
        > respected moderator will pass on this massage in case I fail to
        post it
        > properly.
        > --------------------------------------------------------------------
        --
        > On 30 Oct 2002, in the message with subject *Re: Anti Russian
        Sentiment*,
        > Benjamin William Champley Waterhouse" (bwmc_waterhouse@h...) wrote:
        >
        > "However from a European perspective why is both NATO and the EU
        > Godless/socialist? Most socialists hate NATO for being in the first
        line
        > against Godless communism for 40 years and fighting
        > communist/socialist/nationalist Milosovic, whose terrorist excesses
        caused
        > the Kosovo crisis in thre first place(as well as the breakup of
        > Yugoslavia)."
        > --------------------------------------------------------------------
        --
        >
        > Benjamin,
        >
        > Don't get me wrong, but the lies and nonsenses that you're
        spreading are not
        > surprising coming from a member (present or former - like there's a
        > difference) of a genocidal and criminal organization like NATO.
        > It does not concern me that many socialists hate NATO, as it
        doesn't concern
        > any true Orthodox on this planet. What does concern me is the
        massive lies
        > in your message which you will (as will everyone for their sins)
        have to
        > answer for at the LAST JUDGEMENT. For the sake of truth, even
        though I know
        > you will not accept this because your satanic-NATO propaganda says
        > differently, I will enlighten you.
        > 1) Even though Milosevic was never a true nationalist, nor pious
        man, but a
        > socialist and leftist just like many regimes in the EU, he was the
        > legitimate President of a sovereign and independant state which was
        > confronting an armed uprising and TERRORISM on a part of its
        territory. What
        > you call "terrorist excesses" were legal and legitimate actions of
        the state
        > army and police to stamp out terrorists who were raping, kidnapping
        and
        > murdering innocent people, plundering and destroying churches....
        These
        > [albanina/muslim] terrorist acts caused the Kosovo crisis!
        > 2) Do you know who commanded the albanian terrorists in their fight
        against
        > the Serbian police and Army? No one else but Muhamed Al Zavahari,
        > Al-Quaida's 3rd man! Together with Ramus Haradinai (an Albanian who
        today is
        > a NATO/KFOR bedfellow) he lead the so-called special forces of the
        KLA
        > (albanian islamic terrorists). This means that Al-Qaida also
        participated in
        > the terrorist actions against Kosovo Serbs and Serbia, but the EU
        and NATO
        > was/is obviously on THEIR SIDE! For us in the Balkans it is a pure
        double
        > standard! When the U.S was attacked in NY and WDC, Bush started a
        full scale
        > attack on Afghanistan which is thousands of miles from the U.S, but
        when in
        > the heart of Serbia terrorists start to kill, rape and plunder -
        Serbs are
        > not allowed to react and defend themselves because NATO will bomb
        them.
        > 3) Here are some of the results of your "humanitarian" bombing and
        your
        > campaign against "the regime of Slobodan Milosevic" (which - by the
        way -
        > were taken without approval of the UN security council):
        > - in 78 days of bombing 21000 tons of bombs were dropped
        > - besides killing 1002 Serbian soldiers, you (NATO) killed over 2000
        > innocent people (civilians), includin tens of children.
        > - hospitals, schools, markets, churches during the Holy Liturgy and
        > residential areas were also bombed,
        > - banned radioactive material and banned "cluster" bombs were used
        > 4) Since the occupation of Serbian Kosovo, albanian muslim
        terrorists have
        > in the presence of NATO troops destroyed over 200 Serbian Orthodox
        churches
        > and monasteries (many built in the Middle Ages), gone on a rampage
        of
        > raping, kidnapping, murdering and plundering Serbs as well as all
        other
        > non-Albanians. Orthodox Serbs on their Kosovo do not have even the
        basic
        > human rights such as right to live, right to freely move, right to
        work, and
        > so on.
        > 5) Those responsible for the breakup of Yugoslavia were Croats and
        Bosnian
        > muslims who were doing the same thing as albanins in Kosovo (i.e.
        ethnic
        > cleansing of Serbs) for what they were politically and/or
        financially
        > supported by USA, Germany, Turkey, and Vatican/arabic nations. The
        fact is
        > that the Al-Qaida's mujahedeens were engaged in Bosnia on the side
        of Alija
        > Izetbegovic's army who wanted independant Serb-free Iran-like state
        in heart
        > of Europe.
        > 6) As for the EU, every true Orthodox can see what kind of laws are
        being
        > brought in the member countries of the EU and that is enough to
        know what
        > kind of Order is being created in Europe. The New satanic World
        Order: one
        > government, one monetary system, one army, one court and - one
        religion.
        >
        > Mita,
        > Serbia
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