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  • Robert Miller
    Actually, that s not a bad question. Good funny story, but there s a serious side. JM ... are. ... told me ... area, in ... completely ... him
    Message 1 of 4 , Sep 1, 1999
      Actually, that's not a bad question. Good funny story, but
      there's a serious side.


      > From: LJames6034@...
      > To: orthodox-synod@egroups.com
      > Subject: [orthodox-synod] Re: Men in Blcak a Reality Check
      > Date: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 4:45 AM
      > Actually, all of us are "strangers in a strange land," where ever we
      > This bizarre tale of travels among the heathen reminded me of a story
      told me
      > by an Episcopal clergyman, many years ago. He was serving in a slum
      area, in
      > Chicago. He was wont to wear one of those band collars which go
      > around the neck.
      > One day, as he was walking near his church, he said a young man stopped
      > to ask: "My God, what have you done to your neck!"
      > True story.
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    • William Redondo
      Thanks for sharing your experience! ... From: Timothy Tadros To: orthodox-synod@egroups.com Date: Tuesday,
      Message 2 of 4 , Sep 3, 1999
        Thanks for sharing your experience!
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Timothy Tadros <tadros@...>
        To: orthodox-synod@egroups.com <orthodox-synod@egroups.com>
        Date: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 6:45 PM
        Subject: [orthodox-synod] Men in Blcak a Reality Check

        >My priest Fr. Elias Warnke recounted an incident which happened to him
        >this past weekend.
        > Reader Timothy Tadros
        > I thought I would relay this story, partly for humor value and
        >partly to display how little respect for clergy exists. Last weekend
        >I was invited to bring the Icon of St. Nicholas to our
        >parish in London Canada for the Fortieth Anniversary of their temple
        >building. Since I was already in Detroit for the Feast of the Dormition
        >at our cathedral there it was just a short two hour drive into Canada. I
        >should state that I have traveled with the Icon to Canada before,
        > but only by air, and have never had any problem at all.
        > I drove through the tunnel from Detroit to Windsor, at the guard
        >booth I was asked my citizenship (USA) and my reason for travel, which I
        > stated as: Visiting our parish in London for it's anniversary and would
        >only be there for two days. The guard asked why I would want to do that
        >and I informed him I was a priest. After a few minutes he told me to
        >pull into the immigration area. Once there I was instructed by another
        >guard to unlock my doors and trunk and to step to the side while they
        >searched my car. Five guards tore my car and luggage apart asking
        >questions about everything. What intrigued them the most was the
        >packets of cotton with myrrh that I was bringing to the parish. I
        >informed them that the cotton was soaked with holy oil and was a gift
        >to the people I was to visit. The I was asked why I had so many
        >pictures of "this man". I informed them that they were pictures of the
        >Icon of the saint, Saint Nicholas.
        > I noticed no recognition of that name or the fact that these were
        >religious items. Then they opened my suitcase with the vestments in them
        >and they all gathered around poking and picking at them. The person
        > who seemed to be in charged asked, "What's this stuff for?. I told her
        > that they were my vestments and were used for serving Divine Liturgy,
        >or mass, if they understood that better. With a look of disbelief on
        >her face she said, "But what are they for?". I told her again they are
        >part of the religious practice of which I am a priest. This continued
        >for about forty five minutes until one of them began to take the case
        >from the Icon. At that I protested that they should not touch it, I
        >would be happy to show it to them, but it would be a violation of my
        >faith for them to touch it. The woman in charge saw that I was not going
        >to budge on this and she said for me to remove the case. Upon removing
        >the case she and two others witnessed the Icon, which was streaming.
        >They said nothing for a few seconds and finally the woman said; "Thank
        >you." I put the Icon back into the case. The woman asked me to accompany
        >her to a nearby bench, there she asked if I had ever been to Canada
        >before. I said yes, many times. She asked if I had ever been searched
        >before. I said no. She then said I would have to go to the
        >administration office. I asked if I could lock my car to protect the
        >Icon and she agreed.
        > In the office a woman began to interrogate me for about half and hour.
        >She started by saying that they had found many strange things in my car
        >and were concerned about what I really was going to do in Canada. I told
        > her I was just a priest and asked why that was so strange. She replied:
        >"Well its because you are dressed so weird.?" At this I must admit I
        > lost a little of my composure and said that I was a priest and
        >dressed as one, and certainly did not appreciate her calling my attire
        >weird. Her comment was that she had seen priests before and none of them
        > looked like me. At that point I asked what exactly they wanted of me
        > and if I am not welcome in her country, then since I have violated no
        >law, I should either be admitted or allowed to leave, but I would no
        >longer subject myself and my faith to her observations or opinions. She
        >said that in her opinion I was entering Canada for the purpose of making
        >money. I told her that I was not. She said: "Your going to preach in
        >Canada and that was work" I told her that I was not going to preach
        >and if I did not receive compensation for serving in a religious service
        >it could not bee seen as work. Once again in a somewhat loader voice I
        >told her either to allow me to pass or return to the US, but I was done
        >talking to her and wanted to see a supervisor.
        >Just then a man walked in, from the look on the girls face he was a
        >supervisor. He looked at me and smiled saying; "Hello Father." He
        >turned to the girl and said; "Is there a problem?" She remarked; "This
        >man is trying to enter Canada for the purpose of working without a
        >permit." He looked at me and said; " Is this true Father?" I said, "As
        >I told the man at the gate, I am going to celebrate the anniversary of
        >our temple in London and would be returning to the US tomorrow." He
        >smiled again and took the piece of paper from the girl's hand and
        >stamped it, much to her dismay, handed it to me and said; "Enjoy your
        >stay in Canada Father."
        >I returned to my car amid the stares and smirks of the guards and went
        >on my way. I am sure this was an incident inspired by the evil one's
        >minions to detour the Icon from coming to the faithful in London, but
        >the reaction of the guards made me feel as if being a Christian and a
        >priest made me a stranger in a strange land. I guess I have to keep in
        >mind this is the country that forced an Orthodox Church to allow a dog
        >inside the temple, fining the priest.
        > In Christ
        > Fr. Elias
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