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Re: [orthodoxjurisdictions] Metropolitan Philaret and Grace in the Moscow Patriarchate

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  • byakimov@csc.com.au
    Father Alexander Why do you twist things around. Yes blessed Metropolitan Philaret s father went to the USSR & was part of the MP. However Igumen Philaret
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      Father Alexander

      Why do you twist things around. Yes blessed Metropolitan Philaret's father
      went to the USSR & was part of the MP.
      However Igumen Philaret refused even to hold a soviet passport & once the
      soviet agents tried to burn him
      alive in his keliya. He comemorated the ROCA First Bishop & not the
      soviet "patriarch".

      He was in a similar situation as St John of SF & Shanghai.

      Let both of these saints show us the way & preserve the glorious Path that
      ROCA has taken to date.

      unworthy protodeacon Basil from Canberra



      "Fr. Alexander Lebedeff" <lebedeff@...> on 09/08/2002 03:04:51 AM

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      Subject: [orthodoxjurisdictions] Metropolitan Philaret and Grace in the
      Moscow Patriarchate


      A couple of questions regarding the attitude of Metropolitan Philaret
      towards the question of grace in the Moscow Patriarchate.

      1) Metropolitan Philaret's father, Bishop (later Archbishop) Dimitry
      (Voznesensky), originally Bishop of Hailar, China, together with all of the
      other bishops of the Russian Church Abroad in China (except St. John
      (Maximovitch)), after the Soviet invasion, returned to the Motherland and
      he served as a bishop of the Moscow Patriarchate until the time he reposed.

      Do you believe that Metropolitan Philaret considered his father, a bishop
      in good standing in the Moscow Patriarchate, to be graceless and all the
      mysteries he performed to be invalid?

      2) Metropolitan Philaret, from 1945 until 1972, was himself a cleric of the
      Moscow Patriarchate (this is attested to by his own words at his
      installation as First Hierarch of the Church Abroad, where he spoke of the
      incredible trust shown to him by the bishops of the Church Abroad in
      elevating him to this post despite his previous association with the Moscow
      Patriarchate, and by his own biographical notes, in which he states that
      after being relesed from China and arriving in Hong Kong, he contacted
      Metropolitan Anastassy and asked to be received back into the Church
      Abroad. Metropolitan Anastassy replied affirmatively with joy, but stated
      that Archimandrite Philaret could be received only after he would make a
      formal repentance of being in the Moscow Patirarchate according to the
      established procedure of the Church Abroad--which Archimandrite Philaret
      immediately did).

      So the question is: did Metropolitan Philaret consider that all the time he
      was a clergyman of the Moscow Patriarchate that he was without grace and
      that all the mysteries he performed over those seventeen years were
      invalid?



      With love in Christ,

      Prot. Alexander Lebedeff



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