Re: [orthodox-synod] All these fights
- --- fader Silas <stesu@...> wrote :
> Dear all,Dear Father bless!
> Why all this hatred and accusations? I've never seen
> or heard of anything like this earlier in my life
> (I'm 55). Not even among this "abominable" heretics
> and apostates the Roman Catholics or anyone else for
> that matter. Yes, I have seen it among communists,
> but otherwise not. This makes me cry out of deepest
> grief, sorrow and spiritual pain. When I converted
> to Orthodoxy I expected to find some love,
> forgiveness and understanding, not only anathemas
> and hatred.
Do not cry. Love, forgiveness and understanding are
not OPPOSED to anathemas, but co-exist altogether in
> "But I tell you that anyone who is angry with hisWhen St Patriarch Tikhon anathemised the bolcheviks,
> brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone
> who says to his brother, `Raca,' is answerable to
> the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, `You fool!' will
> be in danger of the fire of hell." (Matt. 5:22)
His own words are "FOOLS" ("bezumtsy"), so you see,
dear Father, there can be different contexts. St
Tikhon was not acting against the teachings of the
> "Above all, love each other deeply, because loveOf course. Love does not mean obey in order not to
> covers over a multitude of sins." (1 Peter 4:8)
offend people. On that question of love, Matuchka
Igumenia Iuliania perfectly answered on one of her
> No one can deceive the Holy Spirit by saying "WeAgain, there is not a word about HATE, as you say, in
> despise our oponents because it's in the best
> interest of the canons and because we love the laws
> of the Church". It is like saying "We hate because
> we love". No person with common sense would ever
> believe in such a contradiction.
the text of anathema (in the service itself or in the
words of St Patriarch Tikhon). Please try not to
divide people into 2 groups :
1.in favour of dialogue with MP - the good, loving
2.in favour of the repentance of MP for their crimes
before dialogue - the bad, hating ones.
Just remember that in the text of the Anathema
Service, which has been sent to me by Archbishop
Serafim (our former Western Europe bishop, now
retreated at Lesna convent), the anathema is still
running againt (my translation from Russian):
"(point 16) the persecutors of the Church of Christ,
the impure renegades who raised their hands to the
Lord's anointed, killing priests, trampling holy
things underfoot, destroying God's churches, torturing
our brothers and desecrating our homeland - anathema"
"(point 17) on those persecuting the Church of Christ
and (......) having relations with heretics or
assisting/helping them, or defending their new heresy
- ecumenism, believing it is a friendly love and the
union of devided christians - Anathema".
> Please, behave like Christians, not as vigilantes inExactly. Some saints responded to attacks by love,
> a dirty war.
some by fights, they all were saints, and fought no
the people in front of them, but the false ideas they
were carrying. Again, these are two different
concepts, despite some on that list trying to lead us
on that low level.
As Christians we have to bear our cross, and respond
of our acts for the salvation of our souls.
God have mercy on us!
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