Re: Vladiko Vitaly??
- Anyone with any sense who has seen Vladyka Vitaly more than once IN
PERSON in the last 4 or 5 years knows he is not the man he once was.
(I wonder how many of this list's vociferous posters have even seen
him recently?) Even his great gift of oratory has been sadly but
surely destroyed by the forces of old age; he forgets what he said
100 seconds ago!! You don't have to be a doctor to recognize that he
is no longer competent, and anything you see today that is in his
name or carries his signature CANNOT BE TRUSTED. If he is so
confused that he can't remember what he himself JUST said, then how
can he be burdened with the complexities of running a (now) fractured
church?! PLEASE, those of you who love ROCOR and the heritage of
our blessed Hierarchs, Metrs. Antony, Anastassy and Filaret, PLEASE
understand that Vladyka Vitaly cannot be accountable -- he really IS
senile! It is heartbreaking, but true. And those who are manipulating
him AND YOU and your love for the church are creating division and
destruction that can only make the devil cheer!
It is very sad, and one can understand the nostalgic feelings of
those who want to hang onto the 'good old days' but it's JUST NOT
REALISTIC. Vladyka Vitaly is OLD and not well. I believe that this
was recognized by the Bishops long ago, and that the Metropolitan's
retirement was suggested in previous years. The Synod/Sobor, in their
wisdom, did not force the issue then... which, sadly, may have given
the manipulators more time to organize their own agendas. Or, perhaps
that's too strong; perhaps they, too, are just blinded by their love
What's presented on the web site suggested by Anna is most certainly
NOT 'neutral' (under which jurisdiction is this 'monastery' anyway;
what Bishop would allow such scandal-mongering publications? This is
like the New York Post of r.o.-targetted web sites!). Some of the
contents are of questionable taste (hearsay and talk back) and
certainly goes against the monastic ideas of 'poslushaniye'
(obedience) and 'smereniye' (humility), going so far as to publicly
relate an e-mail debate with a consecrated bishop. Shameless! What's
next, taping phone conversations?
I am sure the hysterical fringe won't be convinced by my plea to
understand the TRUTH about poor Met. Vitaly's condition. I
understand, because I wish it weren't so, too. If Met. Vitaly were
still the sharp tack, the man of iron will that he used to be, then
we would most certainly not have witnessed this travesty. He would
not have allowed it! Can't you see????!
At the very least, I hope all will, as sincere Christians,
pray for him AND Met. Lavr in these difficult times, in which only
Satan is truly having a good time.
In Christ's love,
--- In orthodox-synod@y..., nanogram27@a... wrote:
> I find it very interesting that you have to go to a Moscow website
> out what is going on in the "free non censured" good old USA. "Free
> doesn't seem to work that way when it comes to the church. Another
> how many priests really know what has transpired, and therefore
> the laity of their parishes correct information? When I came into
> church, I thought I was leaving the RC church; that has become
> the extreme and has compromised itself to the point of being non-
>I joined ROCOR because I believed it held the Truth as I had studied
> becoming Orthodox. Now, I see that there will no doubt be a
> one that will come soon. Yet, so many are so unaware of what is
> Depending on whose email list you are on, you can get diametrically
> views of "what really happened at the Sobor." So, Nicholas, you
> concerned. Here is a web site for you that will answer your
> this email may be censured, and you may not get to read the
> which are extremely interesting. Beware of the wolf in sheep's
- Elizabeth- I spoke with Vladyka over the Labor Day festivities at Jordanville,
and I must agree with you. How shameful then, than ANYONE would take advantage
of the situation! I hope our church is not taken over by those seeking power
or the excitement of the idea of merging with the glamorous MP (in some
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- Dear Elizabeth and other list members,
I apologize for my post. I was frustrated by the 'opinions' posted and let
my passions get the best of me.
Patience has never been one of my virtues. :-(
Forgive me, Anna