Re: ROCOR should not alllow itself to be subsumed by the Moscow Patriarchate
- Dear Vladimir,
Thanks for your comments. 25 years ago the views I expressed below
were shared by most people in ROCOR. Today I am not so sure, though
most people I talk with agree with me. Unity of the church is a
wonderful objective but we must not compromise the faith handed down
by our orthodox fathers. The retirement of Alexei II and his KGB
appointed bishops would go a long way toward achieving the goal of
reuniting the church.
In Christ our Lord,
--- In orthodox-synod@y..., "Vladimir Kozyreff"
> Dear John,also
> Please be adviced that this is not only your personal opinion, but
> exactly mine and that of my friends. Let us pray God to help usproclaiming
> all that you say in your beautiful communication.subsumed by
> Yours in Crist,
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <johnm.qualls@m...>
> To: <orthodox-synod@y...>
> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 1:38 AM
> Subject: [orthodox-synod] ROCOR should not alllow itself to be
> the Moscow Patriarchateoccasion
> > Dear List,
> > I posted this message concerning the MP on Orthodox-traditions
> > yesterday. I tried to post it on the Orthodox-rocor list but for
> > some reason the moderator of that list never passed it on, even
> > though I am a member of ROCOR.
> > In light of the nauseating statements by MP hierarchs on the
> > of the deaths of Stalin and Brezhnev, we should all be cognizantof
> > the price these hierarchs paid to rule the church. Since Sergius,us
> > they have all towed the party line and participated in the world
> > council of churches as an extension of soviet propaganda. All of
> > have heard tales of MP clergy in the US acting as agents of theKGB
> > during the 60's -80's.said, "Ye
> > These men (MP bishops) have no moral authority. Our Savior
> > cannot serve God and mammon" (Mat6:24). The are corrupt and havevodka
> > decided to serve mammon. They have surrendered to the
> > pursuit of worldly goods through black market sales of tobacco,
> > and who knows what else. We have all heard stories of how theyfaith,
> > plundered Holy Mount Athos. They bowed down to the evil soviet
> > empire. An empire that murdered Orthodox christians for their
> > enslaved men, sent millions to the gulag, and executed its ownthe
> > repatriated POWs after WWII. These men are grasping after worldly
> > power and they want to swallow us to justify their own betrayal of
> > the Orthodox faith.
> > Our hierarchs (ROCOR) say that they are not rushing to embrace the
> > MP. Indeed, how could we serve false bishops? Yet the record is
> > clear that many ROCOR hierarchs in the past
> > have stated that the MP is a false church; yet there are those on
> > this list and in ROCOR who wish to sweep this all of this under
> > rug and sayMoscow.
> > this was only a personal opinion. We must not embrace the MP on
> > thier terms because to so would be a betrayal of the countless
> > martyrs for the faith whom we have already glorified.
> > We, ROCOR, have moral and spiritual authority which the MP covets.
> > We
> > must exert that authority to encourage them to renounce sergianism
> > and retire their KGB bishops. Only then should we participate as
> > members in an all russian sobor and elect a real patriarch of
> > This is of course my own personal opinion.
> > In Christ our Lord,
> > Rdr John
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