Re: Concerning Fr.Konstantin's malign by Fr.Shaw
- Fr. Whiteford is saying that the government
in Russia now is different then when it was
Let us ponder this: FBI agent Hanssen for
15 yrs. has maintained contacts in what is now
Russia and in what was former Soviet Union.
He was recently found out to be a spy against
His contacts were the same through the
transition from Sovient Union to Russia
otherwise he would have been exposed.
What changed in the government?
A defecter from Soviet Union whose name
is Major Galitsin,
This reflects the significance of the
change of government there.
Subject: [orthodox-synod] Re: Concerning Fr.Konstantin's malign by Fr.Shaw
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"Michael Nikitin" (who until he at long last tells us which ROCA
parish he attends, so that his identity can either be confirmed or
denied is still a pseudonymous HOCNA poster, as far as I am
"We are tired of Frs. Shaw, Whiteford and Lebedeff's personal
interpretations what our metropolitans, archbishops or priest meant
when they wrote/said this or that."
We are tired of "Michael" not dealing with the arguments that have
already beeen presented, and then reposting the same assertions those
arguments have refuted.
Again, think what you want of the current Russian government, but you
simply cannot claim that it "openly professes" atheism... which was
part of the condition Met. Anastassy gave in his Testament.
You also have not explained why he placed any conditions, and did not
make the ban absolute, and pronounce them as anathematized
heretics... after all, what happened to the catacomb anathema?
But instead, he says judgment of the MP must await a future All-
Russian Sobor. This doesn't support your position, "Michael".
"As regards the Moscow Patriarchate and its hierarchs, then, so long
as they continue in close, active and benevolent cooperation with the
Soviet Government, which openly professes its complete godlessness
and strives to implant atheism in the entire Russian nation, then the
Church Abroad, maintaining Her purity, must not have any canonical,
liturgical or even simply external communion with them whatsoever,
leaving each one of them at the same time to the final judgment of
the Council (Sobor) of the future free Russian Church."
-Fr. John Whiteford
p.s. Another strange similarity between "Gleb Godin" and "Michael
Nikitin" (aside from the fact that they both use Hotmail, and those
previously mentioned) is their habit of waiting until a discussion
dies down, and then finally posting... almost as if they were trying
to keep fanning the flames of the discussion.
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