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    LIST GUIDELINES (Periodic re-posting) Orthodox-synod is a privately moderated discussion group created originally as a voluntary alternative venue for the
    Message 1 of 4 , May 1, 2007
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      LIST GUIDELINES (Periodic re-posting)

      Orthodox-synod is a privately moderated discussion group
      created originally as a voluntary alternative venue for
      the public arguments then taking place on the world stage
      of the ORTHODOX list. These tensions were related to what
      has been referred to as the ROCOR/ROCA dichotomy within
      our church. This dichotomy has now played out into a
      clear differentiation between those who desire union with
      Moscow in May '07, and those who remain cautious and even
      fearful of such.

      These Guidelines below have proven themselves here, and
      for 20 years on the ORTHODOX ListServ list hosted at
      Indiana University. If you desire a more controlled
      "discussion" then you will find such an alternative venue
      was already created a few years ago: orthodox-rocor.

      Also, for clergy, an alternative to the rocaclergy list
      was created at about the same time through the authority
      of ROCOR External Affairs under Fr Joachim Paar, shortly
      before he joined the Moscow Patriarchate. That list is
      appropriately called rocor-clergy.


      LIST GUIDELINES (Periodic re-posting)

      ===============================

      Welcome to the ORTHODOX-SYNOD group

      This Yahoo Group is a continuation of
      the Orthodox_Synod mailing list spun
      off as a sub-list of ORTHODOX@...
      beginning in the early '90s.

      The moderator continues to be priest
      Mark Gilstrap (www.stjamesok.org)

      I hope you will find the Synod list
      informative and enjoyable. Please be
      assured that you are welcome to
      participate to whatever degree you wish,
      or to simply read, if you prefer.

      Please make sure your real name appears
      on your subscription. Aliases are not
      allowed, nor are organizational names
      allowed w/o a specific responsible human
      being listed. If you feel strongly that
      using your real name is detrimental for
      some reason, please contact me privately
      and confidentially, to explain.

      The following are some list guidelines
      adapted from those found at the Cincinnati
      Linux Users Group (by Athanasius Thompson
      who hosted this list at geckonet in 1997)

      -------------

      Keep messages on-topic. This is a group
      centered on issues of interest and benefit
      to the Russian Orthodox Church Abroad
      aka "the Synod"

      This list started fifteen years ago as the
      first sub-list of ORTHODOX@..., and
      as such has similar guidelines -- and also an
      above average diversity of participants.

      Orthodox-Synod, with about 850 members is
      one of the largest Orthodox lists on the
      internet. Please use your access responsibly.

      Orthodox-Synod is not a Bulletin Board
      for posting items for as many people as
      possible to see.

      Your purpose in contributing should be to
      seek information and explanations etc..
      or to inform, enrich or edify others, or
      to seek and build orthodox community and
      mutual understanding, connect the isolated,
      support the struggles of others, reflect
      the love of Christ, support His Church and
      promote the centrality of the Life in Christ,
      not to put something (esp. oneself) on
      display.

      Consider whether your message is really
      worth sending to hundreds of people. If
      it is, don't hesitate.

      Do not send or attach entire documents to
      the list. Send a URL (web address) where
      interested readers can find it. Or offer
      to send it to those who request it.

      See http://www.makeashorterlink.com/ for
      help reducing the size of long links

      Remove most of the words quoted from messages
      to which you reply. Delete all but the most
      relevant text which is necessary to establish
      the context for your reply. Keeping an entire
      thread intact in every message is discouraged.
      History is instead maintained in the archives
      by Subject title (so make sure it is relevant)
      and by date.

      Top posting is not discouraged since it is more
      efficient when the entire thread history is not
      required.

      Don't send "me too" messages. One-line replies
      of agreement are wasteful. But feel free to
      respond if you have more to say than simple
      agreement (or disagreement - i.e. zingers).

      General rule of thumb:

      **** Do not quote more lines of a message
      **** than you have yourself written.

      If you didn't write it, haven't contributed
      anything to a posting's composition, haven't
      made clear its relevance or defined the
      context (or have violated any other guideline),
      ask yourself why you are thinking of sending it.

      Post to the LIST (to all members), not to an
      individual. Personal mail should be private
      mail.

      Proclamations to the LIST about an individual
      are not allowed.

      Speak to the truth of the facts, quality of
      the premises, and logic of the conclusions
      of the other participants, not to their person
      (ad hominem). If you put another person's
      name in the subject line, you have already
      crossed the line.

      If you must correct factual errors on the
      list, be polite and correct just the facts.
      Don't attack the author - be careful about
      uses of "you" and "your" in such replies,
      since they can make the response appear to
      be personal.

      "Praise in public; criticize in private."
      Some disagreements are inevitable but take
      flames off-line from the list.

      If membership to this list constitutes the
      basis for private harassment (such as a
      service provider would consider abuse, not
      just negative feedback) send the evidence
      to owner-orthodox-synod@yahoogroups.com and
      the abusive member will be contacted to
      provide an acceptable explanation/rebuttal
      in lieu of removal.

      To stop undesired private feedback to your
      public postings, inform the sender that you
      do not wish to correspond privately (tell
      them to stop). If it continues it will be
      considered to meet the definition of abuse
      above and the offending member will be
      removed.

      Do not post private email correspondence
      without the permission of the author of
      the email. Private email is just that --
      private.

      Not only does this list prohibit non-consensual
      posting of private mail, it also prohibits the
      consensual posting of private mail as a means
      for a non-member to participate at arms-length
      through others. Such "proxy posting" has been
      the source of many woes.

      "Proxy Posting" is defined as the remote
      participation on a list (by non-member,
      or member) through the posting privilege
      of a third party who is a member of the
      list. This activity is not allowed.

      Proxy posting can allow avoidance of personal
      responsibility for what one says. In this
      hair-trigger environment we want people to
      be more, not less, responsible. Religious
      discussions are particularly prone to abuse
      in this realm.

      Think twice before cross-posting messages to
      the Synod list and other forums. Have you ever
      wondered about postings that seem to be coming
      out of left field without context or history?
      This is probably a cross-posting from elsewhere.
      If you want to introduce to this list a topic
      being discussed elsewhere, start a new thread.

      Keep your e-mail signature short - 5 lines or
      fewer. This includes the -- separator line,
      allowing for up to four lines of content.

      Dense text is especially hard to read on a
      monitor. Remember the printed medium guide:

      "White space increases readership"

      Do not BCC anything to the lists - many people
      have mail filters which sort messages into a
      separate mailbox, based on the address on the
      message. Failure to put the list address in
      the message headers will mess up the mail filing
      for a lot of people.

      Members of the Orthodox-Synod list agree to
      abide by the above guidelines. The list owner
      reserves the right to restrict access to anyone
      from the email list for

      1.Repeated off-topic postings.
      2.Repeated personal attacks.
      3.Repeated disruptive behavior
    • orthodox-synod@yahoogroups.com
      LIST GUIDELINES (Periodic re-posting) Orthodox-synod is a privately moderated discussion group created originally as a voluntary alternative venue for the
      Message 2 of 4 , Jun 1, 2007
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        LIST GUIDELINES (Periodic re-posting)

        Orthodox-synod is a privately moderated discussion group
        created originally as a voluntary alternative venue for
        the public arguments then taking place on the world stage
        of the ORTHODOX list. These tensions were related to what
        has been referred to as the ROCOR/ROCA dichotomy within
        our church. This dichotomy has now played out into a
        clear differentiation between those who desire union with
        Moscow in May '07, and those who remain cautious and even
        fearful of such.

        These Guidelines below have proven themselves here, and
        for 20 years on the ORTHODOX ListServ list hosted at
        Indiana University. If you desire a more controlled
        "discussion" then you will find such an alternative venue
        was already created a few years ago: orthodox-rocor.

        Also, for clergy, an alternative to the rocaclergy list
        was created at about the same time through the authority
        of ROCOR External Affairs under Fr Joachim Paar, shortly
        before he joined the Moscow Patriarchate. That list is
        appropriately called rocor-clergy.


        LIST GUIDELINES (Periodic re-posting)

        ===============================

        Welcome to the ORTHODOX-SYNOD group

        This Yahoo Group is a continuation of
        the Orthodox_Synod mailing list spun
        off as a sub-list of ORTHODOX@...
        beginning in the early '90s.

        The moderator continues to be priest
        Mark Gilstrap (www.stjamesok.org)

        I hope you will find the Synod list
        informative and enjoyable. Please be
        assured that you are welcome to
        participate to whatever degree you wish,
        or to simply read, if you prefer.

        Please make sure your real name appears
        on your subscription. Aliases are not
        allowed, nor are organizational names
        allowed w/o a specific responsible human
        being listed. If you feel strongly that
        using your real name is detrimental for
        some reason, please contact me privately
        and confidentially, to explain.

        The following are some list guidelines
        adapted from those found at the Cincinnati
        Linux Users Group (by Athanasius Thompson
        who hosted this list at geckonet in 1997)

        -------------

        Keep messages on-topic. This is a group
        centered on issues of interest and benefit
        to the Russian Orthodox Church Abroad
        aka "the Synod"

        This list started fifteen years ago as the
        first sub-list of ORTHODOX@..., and
        as such has similar guidelines -- and also an
        above average diversity of participants.

        Orthodox-Synod, with about 850 members is
        one of the largest Orthodox lists on the
        internet. Please use your access responsibly.

        Orthodox-Synod is not a Bulletin Board
        for posting items for as many people as
        possible to see.

        Your purpose in contributing should be to
        seek information and explanations etc..
        or to inform, enrich or edify others, or
        to seek and build orthodox community and
        mutual understanding, connect the isolated,
        support the struggles of others, reflect
        the love of Christ, support His Church and
        promote the centrality of the Life in Christ,
        not to put something (esp. oneself) on
        display.

        Consider whether your message is really
        worth sending to hundreds of people. If
        it is, don't hesitate.

        Do not send or attach entire documents to
        the list. Send a URL (web address) where
        interested readers can find it. Or offer
        to send it to those who request it.

        See http://www.makeashorterlink.com/ for
        help reducing the size of long links

        Remove most of the words quoted from messages
        to which you reply. Delete all but the most
        relevant text which is necessary to establish
        the context for your reply. Keeping an entire
        thread intact in every message is discouraged.
        History is instead maintained in the archives
        by Subject title (so make sure it is relevant)
        and by date.

        Top posting is not discouraged since it is more
        efficient when the entire thread history is not
        required.

        Don't send "me too" messages. One-line replies
        of agreement are wasteful. But feel free to
        respond if you have more to say than simple
        agreement (or disagreement - i.e. zingers).

        General rule of thumb:

        **** Do not quote more lines of a message
        **** than you have yourself written.

        If you didn't write it, haven't contributed
        anything to a posting's composition, haven't
        made clear its relevance or defined the
        context (or have violated any other guideline),
        ask yourself why you are thinking of sending it.

        Post to the LIST (to all members), not to an
        individual. Personal mail should be private
        mail.

        Proclamations to the LIST about an individual
        are not allowed.

        Speak to the truth of the facts, quality of
        the premises, and logic of the conclusions
        of the other participants, not to their person
        (ad hominem). If you put another person's
        name in the subject line, you have already
        crossed the line.

        If you must correct factual errors on the
        list, be polite and correct just the facts.
        Don't attack the author - be careful about
        uses of "you" and "your" in such replies,
        since they can make the response appear to
        be personal.

        "Praise in public; criticize in private."
        Some disagreements are inevitable but take
        flames off-line from the list.

        If membership to this list constitutes the
        basis for private harassment (such as a
        service provider would consider abuse, not
        just negative feedback) send the evidence
        to owner-orthodox-synod@yahoogroups.com and
        the abusive member will be contacted to
        provide an acceptable explanation/rebuttal
        in lieu of removal.

        To stop undesired private feedback to your
        public postings, inform the sender that you
        do not wish to correspond privately (tell
        them to stop). If it continues it will be
        considered to meet the definition of abuse
        above and the offending member will be
        removed.

        Do not post private email correspondence
        without the permission of the author of
        the email. Private email is just that --
        private.

        Not only does this list prohibit non-consensual
        posting of private mail, it also prohibits the
        consensual posting of private mail as a means
        for a non-member to participate at arms-length
        through others. Such "proxy posting" has been
        the source of many woes.

        "Proxy Posting" is defined as the remote
        participation on a list (by non-member,
        or member) through the posting privilege
        of a third party who is a member of the
        list. This activity is not allowed.

        Proxy posting can allow avoidance of personal
        responsibility for what one says. In this
        hair-trigger environment we want people to
        be more, not less, responsible. Religious
        discussions are particularly prone to abuse
        in this realm.

        Think twice before cross-posting messages to
        the Synod list and other forums. Have you ever
        wondered about postings that seem to be coming
        out of left field without context or history?
        This is probably a cross-posting from elsewhere.
        If you want to introduce to this list a topic
        being discussed elsewhere, start a new thread.

        Keep your e-mail signature short - 5 lines or
        fewer. This includes the -- separator line,
        allowing for up to four lines of content.

        Dense text is especially hard to read on a
        monitor. Remember the printed medium guide:

        "White space increases readership"

        Do not BCC anything to the lists - many people
        have mail filters which sort messages into a
        separate mailbox, based on the address on the
        message. Failure to put the list address in
        the message headers will mess up the mail filing
        for a lot of people.

        Members of the Orthodox-Synod list agree to
        abide by the above guidelines. The list owner
        reserves the right to restrict access to anyone
        from the email list for

        1.Repeated off-topic postings.
        2.Repeated personal attacks.
        3.Repeated disruptive behavior
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