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  • orthodox-synod@yahoogroups.com
    LIST GUIDELINES (Periodic re-posting) Orthodox-synod is a privately moderated discussion group created originally as a voluntary alternative venue for the
    Message 1 of 4 , Mar 1, 2007
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      LIST GUIDELINES (Periodic re-posting)

      Orthodox-synod is a privately moderated discussion group
      created originally as a voluntary alternative venue for
      the public arguments then taking place on the world stage
      of the ORTHODOX list. These tensions were related to what
      has been referred to as the ROCOR/ROCA dichotomy within
      our church. This dichotomy has now played out into a
      clear differentiation between those who desire union with
      Moscow in May '07, and those who remain cautious and even
      fearful of such.

      These Guidelines below have proven themselves here, and
      for 20 years on the ORTHODOX ListServ list hosted at
      Indiana University. If you desire a more controlled
      "discussion" then you will find such an alternative venue
      was already created a few years ago: orthodox-rocor.

      Also, for clergy, an alternative to the rocaclergy list
      was created at about the same time through the authority
      of ROCOR External Affairs under Fr Joachim Paar, shortly
      before he joined the Moscow Patriarchate. That list is
      appropriately called rocor-clergy.


      LIST GUIDELINES (Periodic re-posting)

      ===============================

      Welcome to the ORTHODOX-SYNOD group

      This Yahoo Group is a continuation of
      the Orthodox_Synod mailing list spun
      off as a sub-list of ORTHODOX@...
      beginning in the early '90s.

      The moderator continues to be priest
      Mark Gilstrap (www.stjamesok.org)

      I hope you will find the Synod list
      informative and enjoyable. Please be
      assured that you are welcome to
      participate to whatever degree you wish,
      or to simply read, if you prefer.

      Please make sure your real name appears
      on your subscription. Aliases are not
      allowed, nor are organizational names
      allowed w/o a specific responsible human
      being listed. If you feel strongly that
      using your real name is detrimental for
      some reason, please contact me privately
      and confidentially, to explain.

      The following are some list guidelines
      adapted from those found at the Cincinnati
      Linux Users Group (by Athanasius Thompson
      who hosted this list at geckonet in 1997)

      -------------

      Keep messages on-topic. This is a group
      centered on issues of interest and benefit
      to the Russian Orthodox Church Abroad
      aka "the Synod"

      This list started fifteen years ago as the
      first sub-list of ORTHODOX@..., and
      as such has similar guidelines -- and also an
      above average diversity of participants.

      Orthodox-Synod, with about 850 members is
      one of the largest Orthodox lists on the
      internet. Please use your access responsibly.

      Orthodox-Synod is not a Bulletin Board
      for posting items for as many people as
      possible to see.

      Your purpose in contributing should be to
      seek information and explanations etc..
      or to inform, enrich or edify others, or
      to seek and build orthodox community and
      mutual understanding, connect the isolated,
      support the struggles of others, reflect
      the love of Christ, support His Church and
      promote the centrality of the Life in Christ,
      not to put something (esp. oneself) on
      display.

      Consider whether your message is really
      worth sending to hundreds of people. If
      it is, don't hesitate.

      Do not send or attach entire documents to
      the list. Send a URL (web address) where
      interested readers can find it. Or offer
      to send it to those who request it.

      See http://www.makeashorterlink.com/ for
      help reducing the size of long links

      Remove most of the words quoted from messages
      to which you reply. Delete all but the most
      relevant text which is necessary to establish
      the context for your reply. Keeping an entire
      thread intact in every message is discouraged.
      History is instead maintained in the archives
      by Subject title (so make sure it is relevant)
      and by date.

      Top posting is not discouraged since it is more
      efficient when the entire thread history is not
      required.

      Don't send "me too" messages. One-line replies
      of agreement are wasteful. But feel free to
      respond if you have more to say than simple
      agreement (or disagreement - i.e. zingers).

      General rule of thumb:

      **** Do not quote more lines of a message
      **** than you have yourself written.

      If you didn't write it, haven't contributed
      anything to a posting's composition, haven't
      made clear its relevance or defined the
      context (or have violated any other guideline),
      ask yourself why you are thinking of sending it.

      Post to the LIST (to all members), not to an
      individual. Personal mail should be private
      mail.

      Proclamations to the LIST about an individual
      are not allowed.

      Speak to the truth of the facts, quality of
      the premises, and logic of the conclusions
      of the other participants, not to their person
      (ad hominem). If you put another person's
      name in the subject line, you have already
      crossed the line.

      If you must correct factual errors on the
      list, be polite and correct just the facts.
      Don't attack the author - be careful about
      uses of "you" and "your" in such replies,
      since they can make the response appear to
      be personal.

      "Praise in public; criticize in private."
      Some disagreements are inevitable but take
      flames off-line from the list.

      If membership to this list constitutes the
      basis for private harassment (such as a
      service provider would consider abuse, not
      just negative feedback) send the evidence
      to owner-orthodox-synod@yahoogroups.com and
      the abusive member will be contacted to
      provide an acceptable explanation/rebuttal
      in lieu of removal.

      To stop undesired private feedback to your
      public postings, inform the sender that you
      do not wish to correspond privately (tell
      them to stop). If it continues it will be
      considered to meet the definition of abuse
      above and the offending member will be
      removed.

      Do not post private email correspondence
      without the permission of the author of
      the email. Private email is just that --
      private.

      Not only does this list prohibit non-consensual
      posting of private mail, it also prohibits the
      consensual posting of private mail as a means
      for a non-member to participate at arms-length
      through others. Such "proxy posting" has been
      the source of many woes.

      "Proxy Posting" is defined as the remote
      participation on a list (by non-member,
      or member) through the posting privilege
      of a third party who is a member of the
      list. This activity is not allowed.

      Proxy posting can allow avoidance of personal
      responsibility for what one says. In this
      hair-trigger environment we want people to
      be more, not less, responsible. Religious
      discussions are particularly prone to abuse
      in this realm.

      Think twice before cross-posting messages to
      the Synod list and other forums. Have you ever
      wondered about postings that seem to be coming
      out of left field without context or history?
      This is probably a cross-posting from elsewhere.
      If you want to introduce to this list a topic
      being discussed elsewhere, start a new thread.

      Keep your e-mail signature short - 5 lines or
      fewer. This includes the -- separator line,
      allowing for up to four lines of content.

      Dense text is especially hard to read on a
      monitor. Remember the printed medium guide:

      "White space increases readership"

      Do not BCC anything to the lists - many people
      have mail filters which sort messages into a
      separate mailbox, based on the address on the
      message. Failure to put the list address in
      the message headers will mess up the mail filing
      for a lot of people.

      Members of the Orthodox-Synod list agree to
      abide by the above guidelines. The list owner
      reserves the right to restrict access to anyone
      from the email list for

      1.Repeated off-topic postings.
      2.Repeated personal attacks.
      3.Repeated disruptive behavior
    • orthodox-synod@yahoogroups.com
      LIST GUIDELINES (Periodic re-posting) Orthodox-synod is a privately moderated discussion group created originally as a voluntary alternative venue for the
      Message 2 of 4 , Apr 1, 2007
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        LIST GUIDELINES (Periodic re-posting)

        Orthodox-synod is a privately moderated discussion group
        created originally as a voluntary alternative venue for
        the public arguments then taking place on the world stage
        of the ORTHODOX list. These tensions were related to what
        has been referred to as the ROCOR/ROCA dichotomy within
        our church. This dichotomy has now played out into a
        clear differentiation between those who desire union with
        Moscow in May '07, and those who remain cautious and even
        fearful of such.

        These Guidelines below have proven themselves here, and
        for 20 years on the ORTHODOX ListServ list hosted at
        Indiana University. If you desire a more controlled
        "discussion" then you will find such an alternative venue
        was already created a few years ago: orthodox-rocor.

        Also, for clergy, an alternative to the rocaclergy list
        was created at about the same time through the authority
        of ROCOR External Affairs under Fr Joachim Paar, shortly
        before he joined the Moscow Patriarchate. That list is
        appropriately called rocor-clergy.


        LIST GUIDELINES (Periodic re-posting)

        ===============================

        Welcome to the ORTHODOX-SYNOD group

        This Yahoo Group is a continuation of
        the Orthodox_Synod mailing list spun
        off as a sub-list of ORTHODOX@...
        beginning in the early '90s.

        The moderator continues to be priest
        Mark Gilstrap (www.stjamesok.org)

        I hope you will find the Synod list
        informative and enjoyable. Please be
        assured that you are welcome to
        participate to whatever degree you wish,
        or to simply read, if you prefer.

        Please make sure your real name appears
        on your subscription. Aliases are not
        allowed, nor are organizational names
        allowed w/o a specific responsible human
        being listed. If you feel strongly that
        using your real name is detrimental for
        some reason, please contact me privately
        and confidentially, to explain.

        The following are some list guidelines
        adapted from those found at the Cincinnati
        Linux Users Group (by Athanasius Thompson
        who hosted this list at geckonet in 1997)

        -------------

        Keep messages on-topic. This is a group
        centered on issues of interest and benefit
        to the Russian Orthodox Church Abroad
        aka "the Synod"

        This list started fifteen years ago as the
        first sub-list of ORTHODOX@..., and
        as such has similar guidelines -- and also an
        above average diversity of participants.

        Orthodox-Synod, with about 850 members is
        one of the largest Orthodox lists on the
        internet. Please use your access responsibly.

        Orthodox-Synod is not a Bulletin Board
        for posting items for as many people as
        possible to see.

        Your purpose in contributing should be to
        seek information and explanations etc..
        or to inform, enrich or edify others, or
        to seek and build orthodox community and
        mutual understanding, connect the isolated,
        support the struggles of others, reflect
        the love of Christ, support His Church and
        promote the centrality of the Life in Christ,
        not to put something (esp. oneself) on
        display.

        Consider whether your message is really
        worth sending to hundreds of people. If
        it is, don't hesitate.

        Do not send or attach entire documents to
        the list. Send a URL (web address) where
        interested readers can find it. Or offer
        to send it to those who request it.

        See http://www.makeashorterlink.com/ for
        help reducing the size of long links

        Remove most of the words quoted from messages
        to which you reply. Delete all but the most
        relevant text which is necessary to establish
        the context for your reply. Keeping an entire
        thread intact in every message is discouraged.
        History is instead maintained in the archives
        by Subject title (so make sure it is relevant)
        and by date.

        Top posting is not discouraged since it is more
        efficient when the entire thread history is not
        required.

        Don't send "me too" messages. One-line replies
        of agreement are wasteful. But feel free to
        respond if you have more to say than simple
        agreement (or disagreement - i.e. zingers).

        General rule of thumb:

        **** Do not quote more lines of a message
        **** than you have yourself written.

        If you didn't write it, haven't contributed
        anything to a posting's composition, haven't
        made clear its relevance or defined the
        context (or have violated any other guideline),
        ask yourself why you are thinking of sending it.

        Post to the LIST (to all members), not to an
        individual. Personal mail should be private
        mail.

        Proclamations to the LIST about an individual
        are not allowed.

        Speak to the truth of the facts, quality of
        the premises, and logic of the conclusions
        of the other participants, not to their person
        (ad hominem). If you put another person's
        name in the subject line, you have already
        crossed the line.

        If you must correct factual errors on the
        list, be polite and correct just the facts.
        Don't attack the author - be careful about
        uses of "you" and "your" in such replies,
        since they can make the response appear to
        be personal.

        "Praise in public; criticize in private."
        Some disagreements are inevitable but take
        flames off-line from the list.

        If membership to this list constitutes the
        basis for private harassment (such as a
        service provider would consider abuse, not
        just negative feedback) send the evidence
        to owner-orthodox-synod@yahoogroups.com and
        the abusive member will be contacted to
        provide an acceptable explanation/rebuttal
        in lieu of removal.

        To stop undesired private feedback to your
        public postings, inform the sender that you
        do not wish to correspond privately (tell
        them to stop). If it continues it will be
        considered to meet the definition of abuse
        above and the offending member will be
        removed.

        Do not post private email correspondence
        without the permission of the author of
        the email. Private email is just that --
        private.

        Not only does this list prohibit non-consensual
        posting of private mail, it also prohibits the
        consensual posting of private mail as a means
        for a non-member to participate at arms-length
        through others. Such "proxy posting" has been
        the source of many woes.

        "Proxy Posting" is defined as the remote
        participation on a list (by non-member,
        or member) through the posting privilege
        of a third party who is a member of the
        list. This activity is not allowed.

        Proxy posting can allow avoidance of personal
        responsibility for what one says. In this
        hair-trigger environment we want people to
        be more, not less, responsible. Religious
        discussions are particularly prone to abuse
        in this realm.

        Think twice before cross-posting messages to
        the Synod list and other forums. Have you ever
        wondered about postings that seem to be coming
        out of left field without context or history?
        This is probably a cross-posting from elsewhere.
        If you want to introduce to this list a topic
        being discussed elsewhere, start a new thread.

        Keep your e-mail signature short - 5 lines or
        fewer. This includes the -- separator line,
        allowing for up to four lines of content.

        Dense text is especially hard to read on a
        monitor. Remember the printed medium guide:

        "White space increases readership"

        Do not BCC anything to the lists - many people
        have mail filters which sort messages into a
        separate mailbox, based on the address on the
        message. Failure to put the list address in
        the message headers will mess up the mail filing
        for a lot of people.

        Members of the Orthodox-Synod list agree to
        abide by the above guidelines. The list owner
        reserves the right to restrict access to anyone
        from the email list for

        1.Repeated off-topic postings.
        2.Repeated personal attacks.
        3.Repeated disruptive behavior
      • orthodox-synod@yahoogroups.com
        LIST GUIDELINES (Periodic re-posting) Orthodox-synod is a privately moderated discussion group created originally as a voluntary alternative venue for the
        Message 3 of 4 , May 1 1:55 AM
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          LIST GUIDELINES (Periodic re-posting)

          Orthodox-synod is a privately moderated discussion group
          created originally as a voluntary alternative venue for
          the public arguments then taking place on the world stage
          of the ORTHODOX list. These tensions were related to what
          has been referred to as the ROCOR/ROCA dichotomy within
          our church. This dichotomy has now played out into a
          clear differentiation between those who desire union with
          Moscow in May '07, and those who remain cautious and even
          fearful of such.

          These Guidelines below have proven themselves here, and
          for 20 years on the ORTHODOX ListServ list hosted at
          Indiana University. If you desire a more controlled
          "discussion" then you will find such an alternative venue
          was already created a few years ago: orthodox-rocor.

          Also, for clergy, an alternative to the rocaclergy list
          was created at about the same time through the authority
          of ROCOR External Affairs under Fr Joachim Paar, shortly
          before he joined the Moscow Patriarchate. That list is
          appropriately called rocor-clergy.


          LIST GUIDELINES (Periodic re-posting)

          ===============================

          Welcome to the ORTHODOX-SYNOD group

          This Yahoo Group is a continuation of
          the Orthodox_Synod mailing list spun
          off as a sub-list of ORTHODOX@...
          beginning in the early '90s.

          The moderator continues to be priest
          Mark Gilstrap (www.stjamesok.org)

          I hope you will find the Synod list
          informative and enjoyable. Please be
          assured that you are welcome to
          participate to whatever degree you wish,
          or to simply read, if you prefer.

          Please make sure your real name appears
          on your subscription. Aliases are not
          allowed, nor are organizational names
          allowed w/o a specific responsible human
          being listed. If you feel strongly that
          using your real name is detrimental for
          some reason, please contact me privately
          and confidentially, to explain.

          The following are some list guidelines
          adapted from those found at the Cincinnati
          Linux Users Group (by Athanasius Thompson
          who hosted this list at geckonet in 1997)

          -------------

          Keep messages on-topic. This is a group
          centered on issues of interest and benefit
          to the Russian Orthodox Church Abroad
          aka "the Synod"

          This list started fifteen years ago as the
          first sub-list of ORTHODOX@..., and
          as such has similar guidelines -- and also an
          above average diversity of participants.

          Orthodox-Synod, with about 850 members is
          one of the largest Orthodox lists on the
          internet. Please use your access responsibly.

          Orthodox-Synod is not a Bulletin Board
          for posting items for as many people as
          possible to see.

          Your purpose in contributing should be to
          seek information and explanations etc..
          or to inform, enrich or edify others, or
          to seek and build orthodox community and
          mutual understanding, connect the isolated,
          support the struggles of others, reflect
          the love of Christ, support His Church and
          promote the centrality of the Life in Christ,
          not to put something (esp. oneself) on
          display.

          Consider whether your message is really
          worth sending to hundreds of people. If
          it is, don't hesitate.

          Do not send or attach entire documents to
          the list. Send a URL (web address) where
          interested readers can find it. Or offer
          to send it to those who request it.

          See http://www.makeashorterlink.com/ for
          help reducing the size of long links

          Remove most of the words quoted from messages
          to which you reply. Delete all but the most
          relevant text which is necessary to establish
          the context for your reply. Keeping an entire
          thread intact in every message is discouraged.
          History is instead maintained in the archives
          by Subject title (so make sure it is relevant)
          and by date.

          Top posting is not discouraged since it is more
          efficient when the entire thread history is not
          required.

          Don't send "me too" messages. One-line replies
          of agreement are wasteful. But feel free to
          respond if you have more to say than simple
          agreement (or disagreement - i.e. zingers).

          General rule of thumb:

          **** Do not quote more lines of a message
          **** than you have yourself written.

          If you didn't write it, haven't contributed
          anything to a posting's composition, haven't
          made clear its relevance or defined the
          context (or have violated any other guideline),
          ask yourself why you are thinking of sending it.

          Post to the LIST (to all members), not to an
          individual. Personal mail should be private
          mail.

          Proclamations to the LIST about an individual
          are not allowed.

          Speak to the truth of the facts, quality of
          the premises, and logic of the conclusions
          of the other participants, not to their person
          (ad hominem). If you put another person's
          name in the subject line, you have already
          crossed the line.

          If you must correct factual errors on the
          list, be polite and correct just the facts.
          Don't attack the author - be careful about
          uses of "you" and "your" in such replies,
          since they can make the response appear to
          be personal.

          "Praise in public; criticize in private."
          Some disagreements are inevitable but take
          flames off-line from the list.

          If membership to this list constitutes the
          basis for private harassment (such as a
          service provider would consider abuse, not
          just negative feedback) send the evidence
          to owner-orthodox-synod@yahoogroups.com and
          the abusive member will be contacted to
          provide an acceptable explanation/rebuttal
          in lieu of removal.

          To stop undesired private feedback to your
          public postings, inform the sender that you
          do not wish to correspond privately (tell
          them to stop). If it continues it will be
          considered to meet the definition of abuse
          above and the offending member will be
          removed.

          Do not post private email correspondence
          without the permission of the author of
          the email. Private email is just that --
          private.

          Not only does this list prohibit non-consensual
          posting of private mail, it also prohibits the
          consensual posting of private mail as a means
          for a non-member to participate at arms-length
          through others. Such "proxy posting" has been
          the source of many woes.

          "Proxy Posting" is defined as the remote
          participation on a list (by non-member,
          or member) through the posting privilege
          of a third party who is a member of the
          list. This activity is not allowed.

          Proxy posting can allow avoidance of personal
          responsibility for what one says. In this
          hair-trigger environment we want people to
          be more, not less, responsible. Religious
          discussions are particularly prone to abuse
          in this realm.

          Think twice before cross-posting messages to
          the Synod list and other forums. Have you ever
          wondered about postings that seem to be coming
          out of left field without context or history?
          This is probably a cross-posting from elsewhere.
          If you want to introduce to this list a topic
          being discussed elsewhere, start a new thread.

          Keep your e-mail signature short - 5 lines or
          fewer. This includes the -- separator line,
          allowing for up to four lines of content.

          Dense text is especially hard to read on a
          monitor. Remember the printed medium guide:

          "White space increases readership"

          Do not BCC anything to the lists - many people
          have mail filters which sort messages into a
          separate mailbox, based on the address on the
          message. Failure to put the list address in
          the message headers will mess up the mail filing
          for a lot of people.

          Members of the Orthodox-Synod list agree to
          abide by the above guidelines. The list owner
          reserves the right to restrict access to anyone
          from the email list for

          1.Repeated off-topic postings.
          2.Repeated personal attacks.
          3.Repeated disruptive behavior
        • orthodox-synod@yahoogroups.com
          LIST GUIDELINES (Periodic re-posting) Orthodox-synod is a privately moderated discussion group created originally as a voluntary alternative venue for the
          Message 4 of 4 , Jun 1, 2007
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            LIST GUIDELINES (Periodic re-posting)

            Orthodox-synod is a privately moderated discussion group
            created originally as a voluntary alternative venue for
            the public arguments then taking place on the world stage
            of the ORTHODOX list. These tensions were related to what
            has been referred to as the ROCOR/ROCA dichotomy within
            our church. This dichotomy has now played out into a
            clear differentiation between those who desire union with
            Moscow in May '07, and those who remain cautious and even
            fearful of such.

            These Guidelines below have proven themselves here, and
            for 20 years on the ORTHODOX ListServ list hosted at
            Indiana University. If you desire a more controlled
            "discussion" then you will find such an alternative venue
            was already created a few years ago: orthodox-rocor.

            Also, for clergy, an alternative to the rocaclergy list
            was created at about the same time through the authority
            of ROCOR External Affairs under Fr Joachim Paar, shortly
            before he joined the Moscow Patriarchate. That list is
            appropriately called rocor-clergy.


            LIST GUIDELINES (Periodic re-posting)

            ===============================

            Welcome to the ORTHODOX-SYNOD group

            This Yahoo Group is a continuation of
            the Orthodox_Synod mailing list spun
            off as a sub-list of ORTHODOX@...
            beginning in the early '90s.

            The moderator continues to be priest
            Mark Gilstrap (www.stjamesok.org)

            I hope you will find the Synod list
            informative and enjoyable. Please be
            assured that you are welcome to
            participate to whatever degree you wish,
            or to simply read, if you prefer.

            Please make sure your real name appears
            on your subscription. Aliases are not
            allowed, nor are organizational names
            allowed w/o a specific responsible human
            being listed. If you feel strongly that
            using your real name is detrimental for
            some reason, please contact me privately
            and confidentially, to explain.

            The following are some list guidelines
            adapted from those found at the Cincinnati
            Linux Users Group (by Athanasius Thompson
            who hosted this list at geckonet in 1997)

            -------------

            Keep messages on-topic. This is a group
            centered on issues of interest and benefit
            to the Russian Orthodox Church Abroad
            aka "the Synod"

            This list started fifteen years ago as the
            first sub-list of ORTHODOX@..., and
            as such has similar guidelines -- and also an
            above average diversity of participants.

            Orthodox-Synod, with about 850 members is
            one of the largest Orthodox lists on the
            internet. Please use your access responsibly.

            Orthodox-Synod is not a Bulletin Board
            for posting items for as many people as
            possible to see.

            Your purpose in contributing should be to
            seek information and explanations etc..
            or to inform, enrich or edify others, or
            to seek and build orthodox community and
            mutual understanding, connect the isolated,
            support the struggles of others, reflect
            the love of Christ, support His Church and
            promote the centrality of the Life in Christ,
            not to put something (esp. oneself) on
            display.

            Consider whether your message is really
            worth sending to hundreds of people. If
            it is, don't hesitate.

            Do not send or attach entire documents to
            the list. Send a URL (web address) where
            interested readers can find it. Or offer
            to send it to those who request it.

            See http://www.makeashorterlink.com/ for
            help reducing the size of long links

            Remove most of the words quoted from messages
            to which you reply. Delete all but the most
            relevant text which is necessary to establish
            the context for your reply. Keeping an entire
            thread intact in every message is discouraged.
            History is instead maintained in the archives
            by Subject title (so make sure it is relevant)
            and by date.

            Top posting is not discouraged since it is more
            efficient when the entire thread history is not
            required.

            Don't send "me too" messages. One-line replies
            of agreement are wasteful. But feel free to
            respond if you have more to say than simple
            agreement (or disagreement - i.e. zingers).

            General rule of thumb:

            **** Do not quote more lines of a message
            **** than you have yourself written.

            If you didn't write it, haven't contributed
            anything to a posting's composition, haven't
            made clear its relevance or defined the
            context (or have violated any other guideline),
            ask yourself why you are thinking of sending it.

            Post to the LIST (to all members), not to an
            individual. Personal mail should be private
            mail.

            Proclamations to the LIST about an individual
            are not allowed.

            Speak to the truth of the facts, quality of
            the premises, and logic of the conclusions
            of the other participants, not to their person
            (ad hominem). If you put another person's
            name in the subject line, you have already
            crossed the line.

            If you must correct factual errors on the
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