Re: The Anathema Debate
- --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "frraphver" <frraphver@s...>
> Could you please tell us where the below quote of St Nicodemos camefrom?
> Thanks.Father, bless.
> In Christ- Fr Raphael Vereshack
The quotation comes from St. Nicodemus' commentary in the Pedalion
([Thessaloniki: Regopoulos, 1982], pp. 4-5, n. 2; cf. also p. xxxix,
n. 3, sec. 10).
- --- In email@example.com, "aprmih" <aprmih@y...> wrote:
> I respectfully submit to any clergyman on this list (and no,readers
> don't count) that if you support Athanasios' views, please post aDear Alex,
> message expressing this. Otherwise, Athanasios, admit you're wrong
> and end this pointless thread already!
The teaching I expressed is not, per se, "mine." If you
actually read my post, you would see that I provided
*extensive* quotes which demonstrate that it is, in fact,
the clear and unambiguous teaching of the Hieromartyr
St. Cyprian of Carthage, St. Theodore the Studite, and
Archimandrite Dr. Justin Popovich of Blessed Memory
(who says it is the teaching of the *Orthodox Church*).
Doubtless, many other sources could readily be provided which
say the same, since it is nothing less than Orthodox
ecclesiology as regards the sacraments of heretics and
schismatics. If anyone wishes to disagree, his disagreement
is *not* with me, but rather with the renowned Orthodox
luminaries I have cited, who possess great theological
credence and authority. And if they are right, then those
who disagree, disagree not with them, but with the Church.
And those who disagree with the Church, disagree with God.
I would like to see someone actually *engage* the sources
I have provided, rather than simply pass over them in
deafening silence, or attempt to dismiss their clear
testimony through ad hominem attacks directed against
myself (which is all that has happened so far). I stand with
St. Cyprian, St. Theodore, and Fr. Justin. If they were wrong,
then I am wrong. But so far, no one has dared to say they were
wrong, nor has anyone given any Patristic evidence to the
contrary. We must not trust our unsupported opinions or our
emotions, which can deceive us. We must submit our our
judgment to that of the Church, which is true and sure,
and which can be found in the writings of the divine
Scriptures, the Saints, and Holy Fathers--like the stars
of heaven which guide those on earth.