Re: Appeal of Bishop Agathangel of Odessa to the Synod of Bishops
- Dear List,
I am confused as to what will be made «public» and what will not.
Please see below apparent contradictions, for which, I am sure,
there is an explanation. Could any informed person of this List
My second question is about the concept of "Public". Do we have a
Church with two classes of humans: the hierarchy on one side and
the "Public" on the other? What about the faithful? Are they members
of the "Public" in the same way as my neighbour (who is not
orthodox), or are they Christ's friends, those to whom He has made
What are those "mutual agreements between the Synod and the MP"?
What about an agreement with Christ in humility, faith and
repentance? Agreeing with Christ is what garantees agreement between
men. We need an agreement in Christ's Truth. The orthodox calling is
to show this "to the Public", not to negotiate agreements and mutual
concessions as politicians do.
Louis XVI used to say: "I would like my bishops at least to pretend
that they believe in God". Before his execution, he refused to
receive the last sacraments from a priest who had given his oath of
allegiance to the revolution.
I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his
master's business. Instead, I have called you friends, for
everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.
If documents are ambiguous, should they be kept in that way and be
hidden or made univocal and exposed? Are secret negociations with
ambiguous documents part of the orthodox tradition? What good can
come out of such a process?
Simply let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No'; anything beyond
this comes from the evil one.
"There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden
that will not be made known.
"I am writing this appeal out of concern that the documents
submitted by our commission for negotiations with the Moscow
Patriarchate may, if made public, lend themselves to more than one
interpretation. 'Vl Agafangel)"
Which is *exactly* why these documents have not been, are not now,
and will not be made public, by mutual agreement between the Synod
and the MP.
"Telling subordinates (i.e. the flock) that there is no need to know
what the leaders are doing, frankly, sounds like the Communist
communication strategy to me".
JRS: Once some actual decision is made, it certainly will be made
public in all detail.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Athanasios Jayne"
> --- In email@example.com, "Fr Anastasy"<fr_anastasy@b...> wrote:
> > Bishop Agathangel's Appeal to the Synod of Bishops was posted inrussian at
> PORTALCREDO.RU.submitted by
> Bishop Agathangel wrote:
> >>I am writing this appeal out of concern that the documents
> our commission for negotiations with the Moscow Patriarchate may,if made
> public, lend themselves to more than one interpretation.<<
> Which is *exactly* why these documents have not been, are not
> now, and will not be made public, by mutual agreement between
> the Synod and the MP.
> Archimandrite Luke has made this absolutely clear.
> I am surprised that Bp. Agathangel is not aware of this,
> and that his concerns in this regard are completely groundless.