5959Re: [orthodox-synod] Re: Re: Interview with Vl. Mark
- Jun 23, 2002When the first split occured in 1986 I asked Bishop Hillarion if we serve
with the Serbs who are in ecumenism. He told me that he doesn't serve with
them no matter if the others do. This is what they say when things are
We have no reason for dialogue. They will not learn anything that they don't
already know. Our dialogue with them will only cause us to acquiesce to
ecumenism and the WCC. What's to stop us from having dialogue in the WCC?
After all maybe we can help those in the WCC also?
Do not fall into deceit. When you grow older you will understand.
From: "Tim Andrews" <ireand@...>
Subject: [orthodox-synod] Re: Re: Interview with Vl. Mark
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 23:44:01 +1000
Forgive me in my youth (I am 19) and naivety if I err, however, having
followed the recent discussions with great interest, I feel obliged to
humbly make a short note.
Earlier today I was at a function with Archbishop Hillarion (Archbishop
of Australia and NZ if you are unaware) and, being blindly ignorant of
the facts surrounding this issue other than about the emails I have
received, I asked him a few questions about it, and I thought I would
share his response. Firstly, he stated that the synod has never formally
signed an ukaze against the Serbian Orthodox Church for, while they may
be members of the WCC, they are not as heavily involved in it as, for
example, Constantinople, and it is permissible for our priests to
co-celebrate with Serbian ones. Therefore, in response to the question
"I cannot understand Vladika Mark's position
Relative to our Church's", the answer seems to be quite straightforward,
there is no conflict whatsoever! I would suggest that our Archbishop
would know, and I do not believe that any of us are in the position to
make judgments about our hierarchs, whether we are able to quote cannon
law or not. I know that in Australia at least, we our Youth Conference
in December will be held in conjunction with the Serbian Orthodox
Church. We now conduct seminars and bible-study for the youth in
conjunction with them as well.
Archbishop Hillarion went on to say that Vladika Mark is one of the most
respected members of Synod, and has the full support of all the
hierarchs of the ROCA.
My own personal opinions as to dialogue with the MP are rather simple.
While they may be in the wrong over Serganism and ecumenicalism, I think
that they will not come to the true path by themselves, but rather need
a helping hand given, by us, in the form of dialogue. We must look
forward to the future, as opposed to solely looking at the sins of the
past, with labels such as "stalinist". This is not productive! Having
said that, however, I would not support us rushing into dialogue
immediately, despite my own personal beliefs, in that I fear if that
were to take place, there is a very real likelihood of yet another
schism occurring, and thus we must proceed with patience. Nevertheless,
ultimately we need to strive for dialogue.
Forgive me if I have offended,
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