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17078Re: "Enemies of the Church" lists

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  • myhrr101
    Jun 30, 2006
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      --- In orthodox-synod@yahoogroups.com, michael nikitin
      <nikitinmike@...> wrote:
      > And here I thought ANATHEMAS lists the enemies of the Church.
      > Michael N

      And what are the instructions with that? To interfere with their
      human rights and freedom of concience? To imprison them for holding
      meetings? Gandhi said that everyone except Christians see that
      Christ taught ahimsa, non-violence.



      > Anna Voellmecke <anna@...> wrote:
      > At 05:00 PM 6/27/2006, you wrote:
      > >The original poster is very diplomatic. Let me state this
      bluntly: If
      > >the MP church has actually compiled such as list of persons who
      > >"enemies of the church" I do want to know about this practice. Is
      > >a tradition of the Orthodox church to keep a list of enemies?
      > Let me ask: Is it the tradition of the Church to use a motor
      > to go to church services? To use dimmer switches on electric
      > when the services call for brightening and dimming the lighting in
      > the church? To use photocopiers for choir music? To use EMAIL for
      > teaching about the Church? I think you see my point.
      > In the heterodox West, there is no central authority to be a
      > of protection for the faithful against vagante (false) clergymen
      > my ex-husband, to the spiritual detriment of many. Now that there
      > apparently such people setting up shop in Russia, there is
      > a need for some kind of response from the MP to deal with them. I
      > also recall cases here in the US where certain clergymen were
      > suspended or deposed but continued to serve *illegally*, requiring
      > the Bishops of those dioceses to issue warnings to the faithful
      > to seek ministrations from those men.
      > So "enemies lists" are definitely known in the Orthodox world. One
      > wonders why Peter is so worried. Surely he doesn't think *he*
      would be on it!
      > Anna V.
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