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16421Re: [orthodox-synod] Re: What the ROCOR-bashers want

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  • Vladimir Kozyreff
    Apr 9, 2006
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      Dear Father Stefan,

      There are no treaties or contracts in the Church. The mother Church can
      abrogate the autonomy of an autonomous Church as she pleases, according to
      the canons.

      For New ROCOR, the very desire to remain autonomous at all costs is
      unwarranted, if she considers the MP as the mother Church. You do not
      negotiate with the mother Church.

      Father Alexander Lebedeff is certainly not "impartial" as far as the unia is
      concerned.

      In Christ,

      Vladimir Kozyreff

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Archpriest Stefan Pavlenko" <StefanVPavlenko@...>
      To: <orthodox-synod@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 4:48 AM
      Subject: [orthodox-synod] Re: What the ROCOR-bashers want


      > As I understand it: Individual Bishops will not be approved by their
      > Synod, the Chief Hierarch would be subject to rejection by their
      > Synod or ONLY on canonical grounds. They would not have their Bishops
      > in our Synod of Bishops, but ours would (probably by rotation) be
      > members of their Holy Synod. Father Alexander L. may correct me if I
      > am grossly in error.
      > Archpriest Stefan Pavlenko
      >
      >
      > --- In orthodox-synod@yahoogroups.com, "Rd. David-Constantine Wright"
      > <constantinewright@...> wrote:
      >>
      >> --- "Fr. Alex Kotar" <fralex4@...> wrote:
      >>
      >> > MP's approval of ROCOR's bishops is necessary due to the
      > provisions
      >> > that ROCOR bishops would particiapte in MP's Synods and Bishop's
      >> > Councils (while no MP bishops would participate in ROCOR's Synods
      >>
      >> OK, I'm confused now. Fr. Alexander Lebedeff has said that ROCOR'a
      >> internal life would be completely independent, yet Fr. Alex now says
      >> that after the union the MP will have to approve ROCOR's bishops...
      > I
      >> would assume that means that the MP will have to give its approval
      > for
      >> all current ROCOR bishops and its approval for those subsequently
      >> elected to the ROCOR episcopacy.
      >>
      >> Which is it? A simple answer, please.
      >>
      >> In Christ,
      >> Rd. David-Constantine
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