16312Who are the Pharisees???
- Apr 1, 2006Good morning list members,
I was saddened to see only two responses/reactions to my question
(post #16284) regarding "private." In addition, no one asked what
was it that I discovered posted on a blog that came directly from
this list and I viewed as a disservice to our church and the United
States. Some may have thought the question naïve, but this is
supposed to be private list for members of ROCOR and I would think
courtesy and etiquette would mean something at least to members of
this list. I am a simple layperson and the two answers posted left
me with even more questions now then before. While my questions
were about etiquette, courtesy, and respect for privacy I had hoped
that someone would support my concern that there appears to be a
lack of that on this list. I would have also thought that someone
would give "strong" guidance, advise, and at least remind list
members of what privacy means and what etiquette and courtesy rules
should be respected. However, the posted responses either did not
answer the question at all or warned me (I think) not to trust folks
on this list.
One response ended with the following;
"Good rule of thumb. If you really don't want something revealed,
don't communicate it. And also remember the Gospel lesson: Beware ye
of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. For there is
nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall
not be known. Luke 12"
Hmmmm . What does all that mean? If you wish to discuss sensitive
matters of the church or share with church members what maybe
sensitive information that has come to you - you should not do so
here because list members can not be trusted? As I said I am
simple layperson so I had to look up the referenced bible quote to
better understand it in today's world. Interesting research! I
found the following:
""The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat; so practice and
observe whatever they tell you, but not what they do; for they
preach, but do not practice. They bind heavy burdens, hard to bear,
and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move
them with their finger. They do all their deeds to be seen by men;
for they make their phylacteries broad and their fringes long, and
they love the place of honor at feasts and the best seats in the
synagogues, and salutations in the market places, and being called
rabbi by men. But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one
teacher, and you are all brethren. And call no man your father on
earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven." (Matthew 23:2-9
(Note: A perhaps somewhat surprising statement - the Pharisees were
correct according to their limited perspective, and were to be
obeyed by the Jews under their authority. But, they were not to be
emulated in their way of life - they were Hypocrites.)"
The other response was even more interesting.
""Unfortunately, experience has shown that there are liable to be
some people who do not respect "privacy" of lists, even on lists
that are only for ROCOR clergy, where the discussions are supposed
to be strictly confidential.""
Okay, "privacy" is mentioned, but then we (since this was posted for
all of us to see) are informed that some of our clergy do not
respect "privacy." This begs the question, "Does some of our clergy
carry over this lack of respect for "confidentiality" or "privacy"
into other aspects of their daily and spiritual life. Actually, how
does this answer my original question? I recognize that clergy are
also human (and sinners) so why was this needed? Or was this an
example that proves the saying, "Do as I say not as I do."
Oh and as far as the graphic is concerned it seems that I am not
able to post it or embed it as part of this e-mail. It was posted
along with two postings from this "private" list on an open Orthodox
blog. I found it offensive. If anyone is interested I will send it
to you directly if you e-mail me with a request
Please note that just as I anticipated no one from this list fessed
up to this wonderful bit of slander (on the blog). Finally has
anyone figured out who the Pharisees are on this list? I could use
some advice, guidance and counsel in recognizing them and not being
led into further sin (I do well on my own).
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